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WM
5th July 2007, 05:40 PM
I wrote this in refutation of an anyonymous brother, and his claims about history. It's about the life of Ottoman Sultan Selim II, aka Selim the Sot (i.e. drunkard).


Selim the Sot

God deliver us from pressed and flowing wine,
And orgies, incompetence and misrule,
And conquest for the sake of that accursed vine*;
Verily, Selim was a drunken fool;

A reckless, sottish libertine,
A heedless, tyrannical man amongst men,
Who left much power to a queen,
When such is not the woman's realm;

He shuffled off his mortal coil,
In a very fitting way;
Not by war or warlike toil,
But by drink**, and as he lay
Upon the bed of death we hope
He repented unto his Lord,
For the ravings of a misanthrope***,
Can never redeem a man much flawed

We do not arrogate God's judgement seat,
We are but men of lust and fear,
And all else would not be meet,
For those whose domain is one of air.

From potter's clay was our father made,
And to dust shall we all return,
Resurrected, we will seek the aid
Of others' rewards we did not earn.

And that is why, my noble brother,
I ask you to show clemency****,
To one, though not of the same mother,
Bonded by fraternity.

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* Selim II allegedly prosecuted war against Cyprus, as his favourite wine was pressed there.
** He died of a fever resulting from injuries sustained while drunk.
*** Here I refer to the anonymous brother.
**** Here I ask the brother to be patient, and give me time to research Ottoman historiography.

WM
5th July 2007, 06:12 PM
Please criticise!!!

Abuz Zubair
6th July 2007, 01:37 AM
Masterpiece, muhaqiq... truly a masterpiece... you should write more, you seem to be very talented, mashaaAllah!

WM
6th July 2007, 09:15 AM
Please delete that comment. I asked for *criticism*

Abuz Zubair
6th July 2007, 01:22 PM
Please delete that comment. I asked for *criticism*
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Ok... How would you prefer to die? Sword? Hanging? Stoning to death?

MosDef
6th July 2007, 01:56 PM
Surely the brother would "prefer to die by Apache"

nomad
6th July 2007, 05:05 PM
Its really very good, not boring at all like some poetry.

WM
6th July 2007, 08:00 PM
Ok... How would you prefer to die? Sword? Hanging? Stoning to death?

lol...depends what crime I'm guilty of.

nomad
6th July 2007, 08:09 PM
In istanbul in the edge of Fatih, nearing Faner area there is an old church that was converted into a mosque. Sultan selim II built a mineret for this mosque. The area was densly populated with christians beforehand, but slowley they converted to islam, so the churches became dissused and the need for mosques grew.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb73/sarahjhasan/011.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb73/sarahjhasan/004.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb73/sarahjhasan/007.jpg


Even Fatih Mosque was built on the site of a church and some of the stones from the original building were used for the mosque. Fatih mosque wasnt built immediately after the capture of constantinople, but years after when the inhabitants had taken islam as their religion. The church had been plundered by the 4th crusaders of all its whares, which had been built to bury the 12 disciples of jesus. All of the remaining artifacts were transferred to another church before it was destroyed. There are rumours that a big preist is burried in the ruins, but no confirmations.