Abu Esa

[Scented Blood]

Salam Alykum

Where can i find articals or videos that i can download by Abu Eesa Niamatullah?

I know the brother has posted some in the Adab section but i need ones i can download.

[Scented Blood]

Cancel that request.

[Abu Jalfrezi]

Why cancel the request, I am interested in his lectures as well, I see him on Islam channel, very good, may Allah (swt) bless him and increase him in knowldge.

[Scented Blood]

I thought maybe i was asking too much being a newbie.

Alhumdolilah there are 2 of us now so anyone can upload the lectures so that they can be downloaded and passed around please Inshallah do so.

May Allah(swt) reward you.

[Abu Jalfrezi]

I just stumbled across the following (http://alternativeentertainment.wordpress.com/2007/07/05/terrorism-stability-and-other-personal-thoughts/), which i believe is from the same Abu Easa in question.

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Terrorism, Stability and Other Personal Thoughts
Posted by Abu Eesa under Life

Personal because this is my own view on the development of the recent terror fitnah being perpetrated by Muslims that has gripped all corners of the world as we know it. Terrorism because that’s exactly what is, nothing less. Thoughts because I’ve witnessed all this first-hand and have a religious duty to clarify. Stability because it was being moderate and stable in ones religion that I found to be the key salvation point of all practising Muslims from being swallowed up into the trap of takfīr and killing.

Let me start with stability because as you will have seen in the last few months with the continuous outpouring of “reformed” Muslim media representatives, from “Islamists” to “ex-Jihadists”, all willing to make their points and analysis heard which has been based on nothing but ignorance of His Book and ignorance of His Message. Indeed, the only thing in common between such people is how “deformed” their thought has become and just how little they knew in the first place, and just how little they know now. One only had to read a few passages of the infamous “Islamist” to see that, and one only had to hear the shocking perversion of His Book on Newsnight the other day by one such character to confirm it.

So, the real common factor was a lack of stability. They were unstable then, and they are unstable now – like leaves floating around in the wind, changing religious direction with every puff as if Islam was some kind of a game. Just as such people were not to be trusted in their deviation then, we have little reason to trust them now.

Actually, it is a lucky few that start their Islamic development on a moderate path and maintain that throughout the years, without going to extremes, without ending up contradicting their entire methodology within the space of just a few years such as one has seen with the much tainted “Sufi to Salafi” and “Salafi to Sufi” switches, or more vividly the “Radical to Pacifist” switch of recent times. Your community representatives, teachers, elders and leaders should be chosen for their continual balance and stability over the last twenty years and not the last twenty months, for it is ‘ilm and hilm attained over a long period of time that are the pillars of such calmness and wisdom that helps a community in difficult times such as now.

Talking of instability, it seems only like yesterday when one of the key characters of the fitnah we are experiencing today, Abu Qatada, started off his foray into takfīr and thus inevitably the passing of a fatwa on the permissibility of killing civilians. It was about ten years ago when my teacher Shaykh Kehlan allowed me to sit in on his discussions and debates with Abu Qatada after he wrote an unbelievable “fatwa” declaring it permissible to kill the innocent wives and children of those suspected Algerian security service members who were blamed for the murder and pillage of Muslim households during the GIA fitnah that gripped Algeria in the 90s.

At that time, Abu Qatada was surrounded by many Muslims who saw him as a sincere figurehead of the authentic struggles of the Chechens and Bosnians after their lands and people had been massacred by neighbouring countries. Unfortunately, this just proved to be a cover for his own extremism and many innocent well-meaning Muslims were sucked in to his trap, despite the efforts of the scholars at the time such as Shaykh Suhaib Hasan, Shaykh Salah of al-Muntada al-Islami and Shaykh Kehlan. It was not long before Abu Qatada’s true colours were revealed and his deviation, although not as extreme as some of the other fringe movements at the time such as the Khalifah movement started by a group of Arab rebels in Afghanistan, became clear. Shaykh Kehlan wrote a complete refutation of his methodology and fatwa in the then well-respected magazine al-Hady al-Nabawy (which became the name of our da‘wah organisation “Prophetic Guidance”), which started off a period of turmoil between the Muslims in Manchester, which had vociferous supporters of both parties, culminating in the ex-communication of each other no less by Abu Qatada and the then Imam of Didsbury Mosque, Shaykh Sa‘eed. Likewise, the supporters of Abu Qatada created a tense and dangerous environment thereafter, initiating violence in the Houses of Allah and even forcing teachers and scholars to leave Manchester altogether such as Shaykh ‘Abdullah al-Juday‘.

Our respected teacher Shaykh Kehlan taught us a valuable lesson then, withdrawing from the fitnah at it’s earliest stage after he had thoroughly established the position of Orthodoxy, and it has been his distancing from all extremist elements throughout his tenure as one of the main scholars in the UK that has led to his quiet acceptance as a true leader of the community – a model of knowledge, stability, moderation and balance.

It is important to say this now, because Abu Qatada and his ilk have continued unabated over the last decade, leading to collaborations and off-shoots initially with Hizb-ut-Tahrir, then al-Muhajiroun and then whatever crackpot splinter-group that would form and lead to the development of young maniacs who are trying to pass off today as advisors and reformists.

Trust the wise and stable. Trust the established ones – old really is gold. What cured this problem in the first place will be what cures it again now, not the new-fangled ignorant assessment of the deformed. Scholars do change opinions but they don’t change absolute principles of belief and practice like black to white, and they certainly don’t change from one religion to another as one wonders whether the terrorists are indeed doing exactly that.

And Allah knows best.

[Abu wakee]

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=adab+al+mufrad

download google video viewer, and then you may be able to download these videos.

[Abuz Zubair]

Very disappointed, indeed, and there is nothing more ironic than the 'wise and stable' comment towards the end.

*clap*clap*clap*

[Abu GG]

Abu Eesa Ni'matullah Rocks

mashaAllaah tabarakAllah

[abu_ibrahim]

Who is "Shaykh Kehlan"? Is he the Iraqi Engineer?

[Scented Blood]

Abu Eesa Ni'matullah Rocks

mashaAllaah tabarakAllah


How do you pronouce your name?

is it like abu double G or GG?

[Abu Sabaya]

What is up with the scathing attack on Abu Qatadah?

And worse yet, what's with the link to the Zaytuna Institute on his blog?

[Abuz Zubair]

He (Sh Kehlan) is a respected Shaykh. The point is that it should never become 'my shaykh against your shaykh'. I wasn't particularly upset about his comments about the Algerians. Everyone knows how hotheaded guys they were, whether they are Jihadis or Salafis. Surely, AQ has acted very irresponsibly with respect to many issues.

But there is a time and place to say certain things. The guy has been locked up for over five years without a trial or charge and is on the brink of being sent to Jordan where he will be tortured if not killed. It is sad to know that Kafirs find it easier to say a lot of good about him than many of the Muslims.

[abu_ibrahim]

Algeria became a huge Fitna, the GIA got inflitrated by the Algerian Secret Intelligence who were backed by France to carry out village massacres, eventually they (GIA) started justifying them and than ended up making Takfeer on the entire Algerian people. Abu Q and Ansaar Magazine broke off relations with them in 1997 after the GIA were making deviant statements to that effect.

If his been in prison for 5 years, why mention him to put blame on? His been locked up since the post 9/11 new terror legislations have been passed. The only people he could blame could be Umar Bakri and his followers, which allowed the government to pass new laws in the last few years.

[Abuz Zubair]

It is important to say this now, because Abu Qatada and his ilk have continued unabated over the last decade, leading to collaborations and off-shoots initially with Hizb-ut-Tahrir, then al-Muhajiroun and then whatever crackpot splinter-group that would form and lead to the development of young maniacs who are trying to pass off today as advisors and reformists.

Very ill-informed statement to make which only goes to prove how detached our respected and beloved brother is from the 'extremists'.

No doubt we have serious problems with extremism, and we have pointed that out far too often on these forums. The problem with most of us is that we're all arm chair critics who cannot relate to those whom we call extremists, and hence, unable to get to their hearts and change their way of thinking. Next thing we know is that a bomb goes off, and we see ourselves competing with each other exonerating ourselves and showing ourselves off as the moderates of the moderates, exemplary and model citizens of the country who stand together with the government in condemnation of terrorist acts.

Well, I might not have much problem with it, so long as they made just a little bit of effort establishing some sort of communication link with the youth, let them know that we feel what they feel, we are saddened as they are saddened, we feel happy when they feel happy, and we care about the Ummah as much as they do. But that doesn't happen. All that happens is emergency meetings whenever a bomb goes off with a bunch of younger brothers demonstrating outside with banners saying: 'boot-lickers' and 'lackeys'

The only way to bring about change in a people is by sharing their moments of happiness and sorrow.

[Abul-Fadl]

I don't know why he decided to mention Abu Qatada when wanting to clarify recent event, When all Abu Qatada's lectures and books were spoken and written in arabic, and none of the people involved in recent attempts speak a word of arabic.

If this is his way of passing on his opinion then how does he expect people to take him seriously when he shows such biased hatred towards the people he mentioned, with the top of the list being Abu Qatada.

[abu_ibrahim]

I don't know why he decided to mention Abu Qatada when wanting to clarify recent event, When all Abu Qatada's lectures and books were spoken and written in arabic, and none of the people involved in recent attempts speak a word of arabic.

If this is his way of passing on his opinion then how does he expect people to take him seriously when he shows such biased hatred towards the people he mentioned, with the top of the list being Abu Qatada.

Thats a good point. The only people Abu Q had an effect were arabic speaking community. The people who were English speaking were Abu Hamza, Abdullah Faisal and Umar Bakri and Faisal and Abu Hamza had been in prison for a few years.

[Yasir]

I think that was a good post from Br. AE, masha’Allah, and there needs to be more of such posts.The guy has been locked up for over five years without a trial or charge and is on the brink of being sent to Jordan where he will be tortured if not killed. It is sad to know that Kafirs find it easier to say a lot of good about him than many of the Muslims.He hasn’t helped himself, over the years, by becoming known for the most extreme viewpoints as he enjoyed the lifestyle available to him here, whilst the rest of the community deal with the after effects? To an extent, it doesn’t surprise me that as a result of his actions he has been abandoned by the vast majority of Muslims. He may be behind bars today, but he came to the UK in ’93 and up until the time of his arrest nearly a decade later, he didn’t go totally unnoticed by the community.The only way to bring about change in a people is by sharing their moments of happiness and sorrow.How were Abu Qatada and co. doing that? The younger brothers you mentioned which surround these unwise self-styled leaders are often Asian and a few Arab youths in their late-teens/early twenties. What can they share with a middle-aged man, who is unknown to them (and many others), other than a senseless zeal for all things extreme?and none of the people involved in recent attempts speak a word of arabic.The Arab attempted bombers grew up and graduated in Arab countries. The only people Abu Q had an effect were arabic speaking community.So what’s with all the Bengali/Pakistani children glorifying him?

[Umm]

But there is a vast difference between Abu Qatadah compared to Abu Hamza and Faisal, isn't there Abu Zubair?

[MosDef]

Brother Mujahid posted this a while ago. I think its relevant:

Is Shaykh Hamoud bin 'Uqlaa ash-Shu'aybi (raheemahullaah) also glorifying him!?

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Some time ago, the Salafyoon forums were taking questions from Shaykh 'Ali bin Khudayr al-Khudayr, one of the senior students of al-'Allamaa Hamoud bin 'Uqlaa ash-Shu'aybi (raheemahullaah).

The Shaykh was asked:

'What do you see in those Shuyookh: 'Abdul-Muneem Mustafa Haleemah, who's kunya is Abu Basir (at-Tartusi), 'Isaam Muhammed al-Barqaawi, commonly known as Abu Muhammed al-Maqdisi, and 'Umar bin Mahmood, who's kunya is Abu Qatadah al-Filisteeni ?

The Shaykh Answered:

Those are scholars of Ahl us-Sunnah, and (sound) Tawheed and (correct) 'aqeedah, and they are from the people of Jihaad and writing and teaching, and we know nothing about them except good. And what some people fabricate upon them of lies, and false statements in the matters of takfir, then it is nothing but the making of the Murji'ah, and (they the three scholars) are of Ahl us-Sunnah in the matters of takfir and Iman, and our Shaykh Hamoud, (raheemahullah), used to praise them, and recall them in good, and commend them, and defend them, he used to send letters and contact them, and vice versa. And our Shaykh, al-'Allamaa Hamoud bin 'Uqlaa ash-Shu'aybi, (raheemahullah), was asked about them in a teleconference he held in Morrocco, so he praised them and emphasised on reading their works and studying under them, and this was only two months before his death, (raheemahullah). I have heard him many a times in his seatings praising them and supplicating for them, and defending them, and some have telephoned him and read to him some of their books, and sent them to him as well.

Similar to this, I heard from many of the scholars of Ahl as-Sunnah who are with us: they praiseed them, and recalled them in all good, and defended them in what has been falsely attributed to them from lies and accusations, and we do not claim infallibility for anyone, but say "Be just: that is nearer to piety" , and do not look to the words of the people of irjaa' and the people of authority (ahl as-Sultaan), and the apologetics and the modernists, for they do not praise the likes of these men nor do they like them, and with Allah, the enemies are to be united, and "the oppressive people will know which destination they will end up with".

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?p=17195&posted=1#post17195

[abu_ibrahim]

So what’s with all the Bengali/Pakistani children glorifying him?

Its like many of the Salafi say they love Bin Baz, yet many have never read a book or heard a tape by him. They just like associating themselves with him.

[MosDef]

Or they read the footnotes and comments in brackets (i.e. salafipublications) and confuse this with the words of the scholar.

Old trick, new victims

[Abuz Zubair]

He hasn’t helped himself, over the years, by becoming known for the most extreme viewpoints as he enjoyed the lifestyle available to him here, whilst the rest of the community deal with the after effects? To an extent, it doesn’t surprise me that as a result of his actions he has been abandoned by the vast majority of Muslims. He may be behind bars today, but he came to the UK in ’93 and up until the time of his arrest nearly a decade later, he didn’t go totally unnoticed by the community

I don't know how much you were around at that time or how much you were involved. He hardly had any impact on the community, precisely because he never bothered to learn English. He was only surrounded by hotheaded Algerians who themselves didn't speak good English. It wasn't really his words that brought him to the limelight in the UK as much as his irresponsible actions, such as giving lessons in Regent's Park Mosque or Tawheed Mosque without permission. Most of the youngsters from Pak/Bengoli background connected more with Faysal, Abu Hamza and OBM precisely because they, and their followers spoke English.

I don't remember him making wild statements on our behalf to the press, which is why his impact on us, whether negatively or positively, was very minimum.

The point isn't whether or not he was wrong or irresponsible. The point is that he is inside unjustly, and that his civil liberties taken are our civil liberties taken, and lashing out on him at this moment in time is only adding to the government's pressure exerted on him.

And no, the Muslim community didn't abandon him because he was counter-productive to their interests, but only because the Muslim community in the UK are extremely apathetic.

It isn't only AQ imprisoned without charged, there are many other Algerians with him, one of them only accused of sending a pair of shoes to Chechnya, even though something as silly as that was perfectly legitimate back then.

Ironically, Ann Alexander, a Scottish lady wrote to MCB on several occasions as to why they do not campaign on behalf of Muslim prisoners detained without trial, but got no response. She, along with other indigenous Scottish and English people have been campaigning relentlessly to end indefinite detention in the UK, yet no Muslims have ever joined them in their campaign (bar Cageprisoners).

We need to get off this defeatist, modernist, liberal, better-citizen-than-thou boat and learn how to respect justice and people's rights from the socialists, although, one would have thought Islam would have taught us something as basic as this!

How were Abu Qatada and co. doing that? The younger brothers you mentioned which surround these unwise self-styled leaders are often Asian and a few Arab youths in their late-teens/early twenties. What can they share with a middle-aged man, who is unknown to them (and many others), other than a senseless zeal for all things extreme?

Well, this is the point I made earlier that most of us who are joining the 'bash-the-extremists' bandwagon haven't a clue as to who did what and what exactly happened. If you were to attend any of AQ's Khutbas in Baker Street, you would've realised that for an avg Pak like me and you, who didn't know Arabic well back then, it was pointless attending such Khutbas because they were all in Arabic. Not only that, but there was hardly anyone amongst the audience young Paks could relate to, because they were mostly Algerian immigrants. AQ was living in a bubble within a bubble. He was completely detached from the youngsters in the wider Muslim community.

The youngsters only got pulled in by those who could relate to their sentiments, such as Faysal, Abu Hamza and OBM. You have to look at the world from the eyes of these youngsters to see how they see and how they think. They turn on the TV and they see massacres, oppression, torture of their own people, supported by Western governments. Then they see the resistance from the Taliban, Hizb Allah, or whoever else, and it is only natural that they begin to sympathise with them, as much as any socialist American in the 70s who sympathised with the Viet Cong. This is only natural. They then see a group of moderate and liberal Muslims in the West doing all they can to appease No. 10 and trying to be whiter-than-white. The situation is very similar to that of the black Americans in the 60s. This is how Malcolm X and his followers saw the 'house negros', and it was, at the end, the field negro that triumphed.

So what’s with all the Bengali/Pakistani children glorifying him?

It is like young Americans glorifying Che Guevara, or some of the youngsters here glorifying Juhayman. Point being that neither of the two people directly influenced their admirers. They merely became iconic in their eyes. In fact, the reason why they were taken as heros because these youngsters didn't have any modern heroes to look up to. Most of our 'model-citizens' were losing sleep over OBE, instead!

[Summeya]

This (http://alternativeentertainment.wordpress.com/) is abu esa's blog.

[Intoodeep]

They then see a group of moderate and liberal Muslims in the West doing all they can to appease No. 10 and trying to be whiter-than-white. The situation is very similar to that of the black Americans in the 60s. This is how Malcolm X and his followers saw the 'house negros', and it was, at the end, the field negro that triumphed.

Yes. this is why these moderate leaders have no youth following at the grass-roots level. Even the Mojos and Abu Hamzas people were getting to be big in their heyday.

If there was a grassroots movement that supported civil rights of muslims and wasnt seen as moderate and played it wisely (no provocotive statements, minimal interaction with the press) - learning the lessons of the past it could definitely mushroom here.

[Abu Dharr Al Kashmiri]

What is up with the scathing attack on Abu Qatadah?

And worse yet, what's with the link to the Zaytuna Institute on his blog?

Subhaan'Allah, and then we have the series on al'Adab al mufrad! Which is an excellent series by him. Where is the support of the muslims who are imprisoned?

An era of confusion and deceit indeed!