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Anonymous
22nd August 2005, 04:36 AM
http://www.islamicawakening.com/viewarticle.php?articleID=1242 (/viewarticle.php?articleID=1242) </p>



We should never forget that to take away*******rights from some is the doorway to taking the same rights from us all.</p>



The phrase 'knee jerk reaction' is appropriate and unfortunate because it may not result in its' desired affect and could cloud proper due process.</p>



It's also the responsibility of the donor to learn where and how their donation*******is being used.******* To give blindly is the potential to be complicit in anothers' actions.</p>



Peace,</p>



Pilgrim</p>

Anonymous
22nd August 2005, 06:19 PM
To the author:</p>

1. Since you so profoundly disagree with the use of the term &quot;extremism&quot;, is it to be understood that there is no such thing as &quot;extremism&quot; in Islam, that it has not been &quot;hi-jacked&quot; as some have claimed in the past, and that those who committed London bombings are actually a fair representation of all Muslims? </p>

2. There was no invasion or occupation inside London so; based on your comments, these bombings were in fact an attack on the citizens of London without any provocation or justification whatsoever.******* And any attempt to justify them by claiming they were a means to end an invasion or occupation is a lie.</p>

3. Either inciting or participating in violent responses in one country as a method of disagreement for what may or may not be happening in another country is not acceptable regardless of how much sympathy you may feel for Muslims anywhere in the world and for whatever reason. Likewise, inciting hatred and/or encouraging violence against another country is also NOT ACCEPTABLE and is punishable by law. </p>

4. Any Democracy has the right to protect itself from political parties that expressly deny and/or reject the foundations of that democracy, regardless of whether they are attempting to gain control using violent or peaceful methods.******* This is the case with Hizb ut-Tahrir.******* Therefore, the government of Great Britain does not need to discuss, debate or otherwise chat with the leaders or members of this organization and by all rights has the authority to deport its leaders from Great Britain.******* </p>

5. Islam has no more right to involve itself in the politics of any Western democratic country than any other religion. If Muslims wish to maintain their mosques for religious purposes then just as any other religion they cannot turn them into political headquarters, nor can they turn them into or use them to support training bases for para-military units intended to force Islamic political ideologies on the democracy they are residing in or any other country. If they attempt to do so they will be shut down. </p>

6. I fully understand why you didn’t list the names of the countries you’re talking about here.******* What I do find puzzling though is why a Muslim would find it abhorrent to be deported to a Muslim country.
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Anonymous
27th August 2005, 04:33 PM
We don't use terms such as extremists as these are words made by politicians, just because one does not agree with someone you don't call him/her an extremist.</p>



It well known muslims have generally said that the attacks in london are not allowed. No one is justifying the attacks in london.</p>



if some foreign force attacked the UK the general people should not resist and the people of the world should just sit idle? is this what you are saying?</p>



Cannot democracy defend it self by debate and discussions after all you do hold that the values of democracy are true and should adopted by the world over.</p>



Islam is not a religion it is a ideology it has answers for all aspect of life not just worship and rituals hence a muslim has his right to speak about any aspect of life whether polictical or social.</p>



By your standards no should be allowed to comment on any issue so the people of the UK should not have no say in regards to foreign policy and the UK should become a dictatorship just like saddam was where the people have no say. Why do think groups like respect and the anti war coalition are against these suggested laws are against all not just muslims.</p>



regards</p>

Anonymous
27th August 2005, 05:53 PM
I stand by everything I stated above as will most any other non-Muslims in the West.******* So, I would highly suggest that Muslims who choose to live in the West adjust themselves and their religion/ideology/cult accordingly.*******

Anonymous
1st September 2005, 05:40 PM
Ha ha ha keep wishing my friend. Hopefully you will wake up from your slumber soon.</p>

*******It is a sin to except Islam blindly, the Qur'an mentions that the people should reflect on the creation of the heavens and the earth and how the earth is bought to life after its death (with rain) and that truley these are signs for people of understanding.</p>

The prophet (saw) said it best...&quot; the intellectual one is he/she who obeys Allah (swt)&quot;...</p>



'Islam incosistant'******* ha ha heeeeeeee</p>

I think that you are the one who is brain washed my friend. </p>

Listen I got a simple solution for you or any one on this planet. Allah (swt) has set a challenge in the Qur'an for the doubters. The challenge is to produce a chapter like the Qur'an and the shortest chapter in the Qur'an consists of 3 small sentences. Surely this not a difficult task for you 'intellectuals' if you are upon the truth. Many centuries have passed its still not happen, instead of fighting would it not be more simple to meet the challenge? you would have destroyed the muslims.</p>

May Allah (swt) open your eyes and guide you to the truth.</p>

Anonymous
3rd September 2005, 02:13 PM
&quot;Any Democracy has the right to protect itself from political parties that expressly deny and/or reject the foundations of that democracy, regardless of whether they are attempting to gain control using violent or peaceful methods.******* This is the case with Hizb ut-Tahrir.&quot;

So the BNP espouse the foundations of democracy do they???? I guess when they come in power they will give non-whites equal rights??? No wonder, Muslims get disenchanted with the West; hypocrites like you clamp down on British born Muslim views and yet allow British born white racists to vocalise their opinions - even allow them into the political sphere!!

Democracy gives people the right to use their 'freedom of speech' and mould politics in the way they see fit. So if the majority of the British public wants to live by communistic rules, they can - because the majority voted for it.

Samira
27th September 2005, 09:57 PM
Democracy gives people the right to use their 'freedom of speech' and mould politics in the way they see fit. So if the majority of the British public wants to live by communistic rules, they can - because the majority voted for it.
If the majority of british people chose to live and be governed by sharia, would 'democracy' allow that? Think about it.