My son's Islamic education

[waziri]

Asalamualaykum,

A sister from another forum has asked for advice regarding her sons islamic education I asked if I could post it here and she agreed here is the question.


"asalamualaykum wa rahmatullah

my son is 3 years old and i was wondering if anyone could advise me on what he should no islamically at this age. I have concerns as his father is no longer here and I believe that a man needs to teach the boy how to become a man, i have been teaching him about Allah and creation etc he also has a good understanding of akhirah inshaAllah but as for learning Qur'an he doesnt seem to want to memorise it, so instead i have resorted to teaching him small du'as which he is picking up quite quickly, mashaAllah. If anyone has any ideas of what else i should be doing or could be plz give me some advise inshaAllah
JazakAllahkhair."


For those bros and sis's with kids who can give good sincere advice please do so may Allah reward you all Aaameen.


wasalam

[Abuz Zubair]

The best way to get the kids to memorise the Quran is by playing Quran 24/7... start with Juzz 'Amma... and they will absorb it like sponges.

Get yourself kids Qaidas (and no, you spooks, this is kids' book for learning to read Quran and his nothing to do with Bin Ladin or Zawahiri); and go through it with them on a daily basis and get them to read words. And then get them to read with you from the end of the Quran.

In terms of Arabic, get yourself LOTS of Arabic cartoon films (and there are LOADS) and just sit the kids down in front of the computer or TV while you do other things. Don't worry about them sitting in front of computer for hours on end, because they are learning Arabic. Give it a month, and they'll probably know more Arabic than you.

[Umm Ahmed]

As salaamu'alaykum.

If a child is memorising du'a then he can memorise Quraan InshaAllaah , just make sure that your not giving him too much to learn.

You can introduce the arabic alphabet using flash cards as well as the internet.
There are kids book by dar usalaam for children that you can read to them before they sleep and during quiet time during the day.
At three he needs it to be short and simple.

[Umm]

Also, teach him about principles, e.g. defending those weaker than you. About the concept of sacrifice in Islaam, having pride in being a Muslim etc

[Umm Ahmed]

Also, teach him about principles, e.g. defending those weaker than you. About the concept of sacrifice in Islaam, having pride in being a Muslim etc

Yep, and being a good role model yourself , its rewarding when you hear your own childen relate something to someone else, that they learned through you , especially when you thought they were not listening.

[Abu Harun]

The best way to get the kids to memorise the Quran is by playing Quran 24/7... start with Juzz 'Amma... and they will absorb it like sponges.

Get yourself kids Qaidas (and no, you spooks, this is kids' book for learning to read Quran and his nothing to do with Bin Ladin or Zawahiri); and go through it with them on a daily basis and get them to read words. And then get them to read with you from the end of the Quran.

In terms of Arabic, get yourself LOTS of Arabic cartoon films (and there are LOADS) and just sit the kids down in front of the computer or TV while you do other things. Don't worry about them sitting in front of computer for hours on end, because they are learning Arabic. Give it a month, and they'll probably know more Arabic than you.

Hhhhhhhhh! But are cartoons permissible? I thought that drawing things which imitate creation is not permissible? And if it is permissible, where can we get good cartoons for the pc?

[Abu_Abdallah]

And a good other thing which helps a lot is:

Let your child interact, play etc. with kids who have a similar upbringing or whose parents have a same objective in giving their children a good and promising islamic tarbiyyah.

Believe me, if kids love to do things with other kids - whatever it is: playing football or weekend's school - they will keep being motivated and enjoy their learning. And if they 'hang out' with kids who do not learn Arabic for hours but play all day and go out with parents etc., they will love to do the same and loose interest in what you want (and whats good for them).

wa Allahu Alam.

[AbuOmar]

Get yourself kids Qaidas (and no, you spooks, this is kids' book for learning to read Quran and his nothing to do with Bin Ladin or Zawahiri); and go through it with them on a daily basis and get them to read words. And then get them to read with you from the end of the Quran.

After finishing the Qaida...tell him to write the letters Alif and Laam on the front cover and then hide it safe :D

Teach him swimmming and buy him toy guns. Later on tell him to slowly start doing press ups and sit ups every morning. When he is a bit old enough start getting him pellet guns so that he can start doing target practising in the back garden. Make him consistent in his early youth with night prayers and jogging....and then finally kiss him good bye and send him over the hills and far away.

:D :D :D

[mika]

Hi waziri,

Why not let a 3 year kid stay a kid for some more years without starting to "punch" islam or other religions, into their minds?

I am absolutely sure that the parents will do a very bad favour to the kid by forcing it into memorizing the quran, it will never make any it any good.

Let the kid grow up, put it into a good school, not a religious on, and let the child decide itself, what religion, if any, when it groves up.

BR
Mika

[Umm Ahmed]

Mika , how does allowing a child to memorise Quran stop him being a child ? do you think they go to Quran school all day and night ? really you need to get out more. My children go to Quran school its 3 times a week in the afternoon for a couple of hours. They haven't stopped being children .

[ibn 'abd al-jabbaar]

Mika , how does allowing a child to memorise Quran stop him being a child ? do you think they go to Quran school all day and night ? really you need to get out more. My children go to Quran school its 3 times a week in the afternoon for a couple of hours. They haven't stopped being children .

i think mika needs to dispel the gross Islamophobic stereotypes and bigotry that he continually puts on display here.

[just a guy]

After finishing the Qaida...tell him to write the letters Alif and Laam on the front cover and then hide it safe :D

Teach him swimmming and buy him toy guns. Later on tell him to slowly start doing press ups and sit ups every morning. When he is a bit old enough start getting him pellet guns so that he can start doing target practising in the back garden. Make him consistent in his early youth with night prayers and jogging....and then finally kiss him good bye and send him over the hills and far away.

:D :D

bro...do u know where i can get camouflage diapers and passafire with pin that can be detached---bro im well ahead of you!
:D

nay but seriously, i do think in addition to the islamic education, parents should definitely encourage their kids to also excel in phsyical activities. come to america and i personally know many kids that havent memorized any quran but the poor chunky omars can recite for you all the different flavors of ice cream. get rid of all the junk food in the house (for your self and the kids) and encourage them to play ball, run, jog and etc. of course, this is all balanced with other aspects and let them dictate some of their affairs to be decision makers and leaders with humility etc..

allahualam

[just a guy]

I am absolutely sure that the parents will do a very bad favour to the kid by forcing .....


but if its mutual, according to mika, its all fine and dandy...


mika (just curious) do you have a wife and kids?

[mika]

Hi all

But why not let your kids decide for themself what religion they want to attend when they grow up, Umm Ahmed, instead of brainwash them from an age of three years....:confused:

Are you afriad that if you wait with the divine "education" they cold decide themself change religion, or maby not belive at all?

Face it my friends, islamic education is a completelt wast of time, instead let you kids be kids, and then in a sufficient age, let them go to scool and learn construcetive things, that will benefit themself themself, their families, and the sociaty where they live.

br
mika

[The HT brother]

Hi all

But why not let your kids decide for themself what religion they want to attend when they grow up, Umm Ahmed, instead of brainwash them from an age of three years....:confused:

Are you afriad that if you wait with the divine "education" they cold decide themself change religion, or maby not belive at all?

Face it my friends, islamic education is a completelt wast of time, instead let you kids be kids, and then in a sufficient age, let them go to scool and learn construcetive things, that will benefit themself themself, their families, and the sociaty where they live.

br
mika

I agree with brother Mika, Islamic education as we know it IS a complete waste of time..
The need of the hour is to educate your child about Khilafah. At age 3 he could start with listening to HT rap, some of which has been posted on another thread (the "Dirty Kuffar" thread).

Other than that you could buy him a world map that shows the future Khilafah encompassing the mulsim world that is. Since such a map is not available you might have to draw over the avalibale ones.

Anyway, good luck

The HT Bro

[Abuz Zubair]

I get a feeling that 'The HT Brother' and 'Mika' are somehow related.

[The HT brother]

I get a feeling that 'The HT Brother' and 'Mika' are somehow related.

Actually you are right, a HT sometimes sounds like a non-muslim.

Beleive it or not-- I have been told by a Mushrif in Halaqas that one of the good sources to learn Islam is from the books of Brenard Lewis! according to thei Mushrif, there are perhaps 4-5 scholars in the Muslim world that come even close to Bernard Lewis!!!

[Umm Ahmed]

Hi all

But why not let your kids decide for themself what religion they want to attend when they grow up, Umm Ahmed, instead of brainwash them from an age of three years....:confused:

Are you afriad that if you wait with the divine "education" they cold decide themself change religion, or maby not belive at all?

Face it my friends, islamic education is a completelt wast of time, instead let you kids be kids, and then in a sufficient age, let them go to scool and learn construcetive things, that will benefit themself themself, their families, and the sociaty where they live.

br
mika

Your not reading anything and thats because of the blinkers you have on!

Islaam teaches us everything , how to be a good neighbour and benefit the community at large , right now as I write my children are swimming in the sea , just like the thousands of other children around the world during their summer holidays.
Do you think we are robots of some kind ? we are human just like you , the difference is we accept Islaam as the best way to live because its what the Law giver recommended.
And if you want to opress your children by not teaching them about God when they are children then thats your choice , but for your information children allready have the natural inclination to know that there is a God , we only build on that.
If any one does not choose Islaam as their religion then they are lost , I dont want that for my children , I want the best for them because I love them. Unlike you who wishes your children to have intercourse with each other, not forgetting they are not allowed to have children , and you dont mind homosexuality , again no children.
Wow Mika your contribution to society will be what exactly ?

[just a guy]

I get a feeling that 'The HT Brother' and 'Mika' are somehow related.

awwww a brother and brother combo...how special...candlelights and caviar for you two?!?

i personally get a kick out of reading mika's post; it kind of reenforces my notion of how immorally backrupt this world is becoming, particularily the west. i try to come up with excuses for you poor hedonists but how can i when you are potential mate could be your mothers, though im sure the next door neighbors poor poodle will soon be on the waiting list too?

mika, so do you have a wife and kids?

[mika]

Hi Umm Ahmed,

First of all, I have absolutely no doubt that you are a good mother, and that you want the best for your kids.
I do not think that you are robot, actually I think, looking on the correspondence we had until now, that you seem to be a very intelligent person.

With that in mind Umm Ahmed, it is therefore also strange to me that you can say:
but for your information children already have the natural inclination to know that there is a God , we only build on that.
This is based on pure believe Umm Ahmed, I cannot prove that you are not right, on the other hand nobody can prove that your are right.
Therefore, if you love your kids as I am absolutely sure that you do, and let you kids be kids a few years more, and then place them in a non-religious school where they learn productive things that teach them to be productive and tolerant citizen, as well as being able to choose if they want to be religious persons or not.

By the way Umm Ahmed, it surprises me that you come up with the following statement:
Unlike you who wish your children to have intercourse with each other, not forgetting they are not allowed to have children, and you don’t mind homosexuality, again no children.
That is a very hard accusation Umm Ahmed please explain to me where I have expressed whishes for underage children to have intercourse?

I seem that our good old Abuz Zubair, had some bad influence on you and many others in this forum in this regard.

BR
Mika

[mika]

Hi Umm Ahmed,

First of all, I have absolutely no doubt that you are a good mother, and that you want the best for your kids.
I do not think that you are robot, actually I think, looking on the correspondence we had until now, that you seem to be a very intelligent person.

With that in mind Umm Ahmed, it is therefore also strange to me that you can say:
but for your information children already have the natural inclination to know that there is a God , we only build on that.
This is based on pure believe Umm Ahmed, I cannot prove that you are not right, on the other hand nobody can prove that your are right.
Therefore, if you love your kids as I am absolutely sure that you do, and let you kids be kids a few years more, and then place them in a non-religious school where they learn productive things that teach them to be productive and tolerant citizen, as well as being able to choose if they want to be religious persons or not.

By the way Umm Ahmed, it surprises me that you come up with the following statement:
Unlike you who wish your children to have intercourse with each other, not forgetting they are not allowed to have children, and you don’t mind homosexuality, again no children.
That is a very hard accusation Umm Ahmed please explain to me where I have expressed whishes for underage children to have intercourse?

I seem that our good old Abuz Zubair, had some bad influence on you and many others in this forum in this regard.

BR
Mika

[just a guy]

That is a very hard accusation Umm Ahmed please explain to me where I have expressed whishes for underage children to have intercourse?

BR
Mika

so what is the 'appropriate' age for a son or daughter to engage in those acts with their parents or among themselves, mika?

[waziri]

Mika what makes you think that any muslim on this forum or anywhere or even any decent non muslim should or would take any advice from a sick perverted individual like yourself on how to bring up their kids?

[WM]

Mika, seriously dude- tell us if you're married, or have any siblings.

It would mean a lot to me, and the other forum members who feel like a laugh.

[Umm Ahmed]

This is based on pure believe Umm Ahmed, I cannot prove that you are not right, on the other hand nobody can prove that your are right.
Therefore, if you love your kids as I am absolutely sure that you do, and let you kids be kids a few years more, and then place them in a non-religious school where they learn productive things that teach them to be productive and tolerant citizen, as well as being able to choose if they want to be religious persons or not.

Again dont tell me my children are not being children! I have the Quran that tells me what I am doing is right , where you are bringing opinions based on nothing.



That is a very hard accusation Umm Ahmed please explain to me where I have expressed whishes for underage children to have intercourse?

I am glad you found my accusation harsh , now perhaps you wont be telling others here ,its okay for your child to be homosexual or go into incestuous relationships , different kettle of fish isn't it when your asked to practice what you preach.


I seem that our good old Abuz Zubair, had some bad influence on you and many others in this forum in this regard.

In what regard ?

[Abuz Zubair]

I seem that our good old Abuz Zubair, had some bad influence on you and many others in this forum in this regard.

lol... your views so perverted, unnatural and disgusting that there is no need for any influence...

It probably won't take long until you begin to register as a sex offender, if you already don't.

[Umm Farouk]

It seems mika is just out to be against islam so she makes stupid arguments that he doenst even seem to convince himself nor others. Or are u just plain Stupid?

[ibn 'abd al-jabbaar]

Or are u just plain Stupid?

that may very well be likely.