Wife serving guests

[Clear_Sky]

Upon the advice of one of the members of this forum, I'm attempting to separate my questions on a booklet into separate threads.

In a booklet entitled:

The General Prescripts of Belief in the Qu'ran and Sunnah

By

Abdul Rahmaan Abdul Khaliq

Translation and Commentary by Mahmoud Murad

I came up with the following question:

[p.11, statement 51, footnote 5] - A hadeeth in Bukhari vol. V, p.296 is cited (Jabir bin Abdullah, RAA, narrates). Among the things mentioned is that the narrator's (Jabir RAA) wife ate and served others. Is this an indication that if one is married that it is permissible for his wife to serve male guests? How about eating in the same room/table?

Anyone have any information (i.e. Qu'ran, Sunnah) which might help me answer this question?

JAK

[Umm Ahmed]

Al-Bukhari, Muslim, and others have reported Sahl ibn Sa'd al-Ansari as saying, Abu Usayd al-Sa'adi invited the Prophet (peace be on him) and his Companions to his wedding. The food was prepared and served by none other than his wife, Umm Usayd. She had soaked some dates in milk in a stone pot overnight. When the Prophet (peace be on him) had finished his meal, she mashed the dates and brought the drink to him.

Ibn Hajar commented that, "From this hadith we conclude that a woman is permitted to serve her husband and his male visitors, just as the husband is permitted to serve his wife. It is evident that her serving the visitors is allowed only if there is no fear of temptation and if she is properly dressed; if the wife is not properly dressed (as is the case with a majority of women in our time) her appearing in front of men is haram." <-- this quote is in the book The Lawful and Prohibited in Islam by Yusuf al-Qaradawi.

As for eating Allaahu 'alaam I serve male guests fully covered , but never eat together .

[mika]

Hi Umm Ahmed

Is it because you are afraid to "tempt" male guests that you have to cover yourself and even not eat together with your guests?

Umm Ahmed, what kind of guests is it that let themselves "dangerously tempt" just because a female serve a nice meal and participate in a normal social life?



BR
Mika

[Umm Ahmed]

Be quiet Mika , you dont know the meaning of the word "shyness" .

Also whats normal to you and yours, is not proper Islaamic etiquette to us

[ibn 'abd al-jabbaar]

Be quiet Mika , you dont know the meaning of the word "shyness" .

Also whats normal to you and yours, is not proper Islaamic etiquette to us

indeed, what we consider a "normal social life" is far different (and superior) to what mika and his likes consider a "normal social life" (almost always involving obscene amounts of alcohol and/or a sexually transmitted infection of some sort :D)

[Brother_Mujahid]

Well mika is a-okay with incest, so his attitude is not surprising.

[ibn 'abd al-jabbaar]

Well mika is a-okay with incest, so his attitude is not surprising.

http://blog.theavclub.tv/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/borat-high-five.jpg

[just a guy]

Hi Umm Ahmed

Is it because you are afraid to "tempt" male guests that you have to cover yourself and even not eat together with your guests?

BR
Mika

Hi Mika,

WOW, Mika is OK with incest?!?

and what kind of father would you be if you were tempted by your daughter or perhaps your son at the dinner table...?

Knowing you, I d be concerned about my china ware too and other in animate and animate things.

Anyways, what does 'BR' means?

[Clear_Sky]

Umm Ahmed,

Could you take me through the thought/research process that brought you from my question to your response? Did you have the hadeeth/commentary memorized, or did you go through a series of references to arrive to this response?

JAK

[Umm Ahmed]

Umm Ahmed,

Could you take me through the thought/research process that brought you from my question to your response? Did you have the hadeeth/commentary memorized, or did you go through a series of references to arrive to this response?

JAK

Which response exactly?

[Clear_Sky]

Al-Bukhari, Muslim, and others have reported Sahl ibn Sa'd al-Ansari as saying, Abu Usayd al-Sa'adi invited the Prophet (peace be on him) and his Companions to his wedding. The food was prepared and served by none other than his wife, Umm Usayd. She had soaked some dates in milk in a stone pot overnight. When the Prophet (peace be on him) had finished his meal, she mashed the dates and brought the drink to him.

Ibn Hajar commented that, "From this hadith we conclude that a woman is permitted to serve her husband and his male visitors, just as the husband is permitted to serve his wife. It is evident that her serving the visitors is allowed only if there is no fear of temptation and if she is properly dressed; if the wife is not properly dressed (as is the case with a majority of women in our time) her appearing in front of men is haram." <-- this quote is in the book The Lawful and Prohibited in Islam by Yusuf al-Qaradawi.

As for eating Allaahu 'alaam I serve male guests fully covered , but never eat together .

I was referring to this one.

[Umm Ahmed]

Ibn Hajar commented that, "From this hadith we conclude that a woman is permitted to serve her husband and his male visitors, just as the husband is permitted to serve his wife. It is evident that her serving the visitors is allowed only if there is no fear of temptation and if she is properly dressed; if the wife is not properly dressed (as is the case with a majority of women in our time) her appearing in front of men is haram." <-- this quote is in the book The Lawful and Prohibited in Islam by Yusuf al-Qaradawi.

What is highlighted in bold is where the commentary is from, thus not my own commentary.