JayshAllah
11th August 2007, 09:39 PM
I need information on everything about martyrdom (i.e. what constitutes it, what does not constitute it, what are the pre-conditions, etc etc)
Abuz Zubair
11th August 2007, 09:42 PM
and why do you need information on that?
JayshAllah
11th August 2007, 10:03 PM
Doing a small talk on it.
JayshAllah
11th August 2007, 10:07 PM
The talk will Insha-Allah focus on how terrorists are NOT shaheed.
MosDef
11th August 2007, 11:47 PM
I think Yasser Arafat has this market cornered...
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=44033&postcount=1
Abandoned-Mind
11th August 2007, 11:53 PM
The talk will Insha-Allah focus on how terrorists are NOT shaheed.
http://www.religioscope.com/pdf/martyrdom.pdf
It has a towards the latter part of the articles, definition of a shaheed etc by various scholars/mathabs.
Let us know your conclusion and why. It'd Be interesting.
JayshAllah
14th August 2007, 09:59 AM
http://www.religioscope.com/pdf/martyrdom.pdf
It has a towards the latter part of the articles, definition of a shaheed etc by various scholars/mathabs.
Let us know your conclusion and why. It'd Be interesting.
I disagree with the article. I am against suicide bombing and believe it is Haram as stated by Shaykh al-Albani, bin Baz, ibn Uthaymeen, Salih al-Munajjid, etc.
Abandoned-Mind
14th August 2007, 10:35 AM
I disagree with the article. I am against suicide bombing and believe it is Haram as stated by Shaykh al-Albani, bin Baz, ibn Uthaymeen, Salih al-Munajjid, etc.
You may do so, but what it says in it about defination of a shaheed etc is all from the Old-Skool guys you know.
And regardining al-Albaani's opinion, he allows it permissability but adds the condition of a Khaleef/Ameer giving the order I believe.
shaheed666
16th August 2007, 05:35 AM
I need information on everything about martyrdom (i.e. what constitutes it, what does not constitute it, what are the pre-conditions, etc etc
Assalamu alaikum,
Dear akhi it seems ur confused first u ask for information about martyrdom operations implying u know notihng about it...........
I disagree with the article. I am against suicide bombing and believe it is Haram as stated by Shaykh al-Albani, bin Baz, ibn Uthaymeen, Salih al-Munajjid, etc.
But u stick to the verdicts of the scholars[i would like to know when sheikh salih al-munajjid stated it haraam]
As for issues like this i think its better to look into the opinions of the mujahideen and the scholars who have been to JIhad rather than of scholars who dont even know to pull a trigger,it doesnt make sense to ask issues of warfare[usool e jang] to people who have never experienced warfare,you know today we dont find any ibn taymiyyah[rh] or ibn mubarak[rh]
any way here is the fatwa of Sheikh Al-Maqdisi.....
Martyrdom Operations:
Although I have some remarks on these operations which are carried out by certain youths in Palestine by exploding themselves with bombs in order to make Jihad against the Jews and to inflict gross damage within their ranks, I disagree with those who regard it as suicide and that the executor is decreed to Hellfire. The reason behind this is that the investigation of the evidence in Shari'ah, indicates that the harsh threat of Hellfire due to the suicide, is rather for the person who kills himself in protest against Allah's Will, or for fear and worry from Allah's Decree, or that he hastened death because he was impatient during tribulations or injury, etc.
Therefore, as long as the Muslim Monotheist carrying out such operations is not doing it for any of these incentives, then the suicide ruling and the acrimonious threat mentioned in the Hadiths must not be subjoined to that person.
However, what should be noted regarding such operations is that there are general literal evidence that forbid self-killing under any circumstance, even if it was not due to the above mentioned incentives. Thus, these operations were the subject of research and Ijtihad (analogical deductions) by scholars. It has its analogues and counterparts in early books of jurisprudence, for example it could correspond to the famous issue of Tatarrus (Shielding).
I have scrutinised this problem in a Fatwa (legal opinion), wherein I directed the youth who are in charge of such operations to study the matter legally and seriously. It alerted those youth to certain issues, the most important of which are the following:
1. Effort should be made in utilising the latest technological methods, like remote control bombing devices or timed-devices, which minimises the number of victims in the ranks of the Mujahideen, for this is obligatory upon them if it is attainable. is because the Mujahid brother is a precious jewel in this time and must not be wasted for targets that can be claimed without losses of this type.
2. These operations should focus on military targets which distress the enemy and it should manifest the radiant image of the Islamic Jihad by avoiding intentional killing of children and their like1, whom the Lawmaker (s.w.t) orders us to evade, except in disconcert necessity as in the Hadith related by As-Sa'b bin Jaththama in Bukhari: "The Prophet (s.a.w) passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa' or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the Mushrik (polytheist) warriors at night with the probability of exposing their woman and children to danger. The Prophet (s.a.w) replied, 'They (ie. woman and children) are from them (ie. the Mushriks).' I also heard the Prophet (s.a.w) saying, 'The institution of Hima2 is invalid except for Allah and His Messenger (s.a.w)'
3. The motive behind such operations should be to establish a truly important and general Maslaha (benefit), or to repel a true Mafsada (blight), not a doubtful one, that can not be repelled in any other way. As for carrying out these operations to kill a Kafir who can be killed by a pistol or gun, then sacrificing the self is not permitted because it is not a necessity and because it can be accomplished by other means.
In summary, our scholars have given Fatwas which permitted operations that are analogous and comparative to these, whereby a great and true blight can be repelled and by no other method.
However, the allegation of some Sheikhs that these Jihadi operations only incur bloodshed upon the Muslims, is the typical scepticism of those who let down the Jihad in every place and not just Palestine. If the Muslims were to pay attention and observe allegations of that kind, then they will never resurge and no flag of Jihad will be raised. How did Allah's Deen reach us and how did we conquest the east and west, if it was not for the limbs and blood of the former Mujahideen? How can there be Jihad without bloodshed? How can blood be spared without blood being shed? How can Jihad be accomplished without sacrifice and blood? Did not Allah (s.w.t) Say: "Verily, Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allah's Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed..." [9: 111] And also Said: "Let those (believers) who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter fight in the Cause of Allah, and whoso fights in the Cause of Allah, and is killed or gets victory, We shall bestow on him a great reward." [4: 74] Along with many other verses and Hadiths which exposes the falsehood and illegitimacy in the scepticism of those who spread disquieting news, those who are appointed in the Muslim ranks to fail the Jihad. Verily, Allah Says the Truth and guides to the Path.
may be you could also read the book by yusuf ul uyayree download (http://ia310930.us.archive.org/1/items/bnm54fg7i8/The-Islamic-Ruling-on-the-Permissibility-of-Self-Sacrificial-Operations.pdf)
but u can always differ on this issue.......Allah hafiz
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