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Anonymous

16th January 2006, 03:28 AM

http://www.islamicawakening.com/viewarticle.php?articleID=1251 (/viewarticle.php?articleID=1251)

Asalaamalaykum brother you are absolutely one hundred and one percent right our situation is some what bleak if I only look in a small sphere of my own life where I live then its clear we have to go through a lot more hardship and pain to realize we have lost the plot how can we achieve anything’ when we cannot give the rights to each other’ this dunya has captured the hearts of many of us and blinded us to the shortness of this life” short of a holocaust I am at odds to believe we will do any good for ourselves’ we just seem to live such selfish lives many of our community cannot see beyond the bounds of kith and kin or tribe if they are not blood related then who gives a damn, yet if someone dared to call us not a believer we would be deeply offended” but how many of us act as a believers’ yes the model of the prophet peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him’ have become like just words scripted and repeated and then confined to only to a book’ his wonderful person his character and beautiful example have become an icon to be worshiped and revered but his actions have been left and are our voices have become like the sound of a clanging dustbin. 

We are not men just holured out shapes of men’ you can pump yourself up as much as you dare to’ make your muscles expand’ you can train your body to break bricks you can make as many baby’s as Allaah permits but the mark of a man is something for the sons of men to seek after in this world’ a man is he who walks upright in his heart who has the marks of nobility in all his actions who considers the rights of his neighbors .and looks after the right s of his brothers’ and if I quote the hadith you have all heard them if I read the ayah of quraan you would remember’ you would all be familiar with the daleel but for that’ what reasons would the remembrance do? when many of us cannot translate our talks into deeds the Muslims are very fond of words but find it hard to translate words into deeds

We have seen the callers to Islam become conceited in there knowledge and Talibs above reproach we have seen destruction walking with a smiling face we have seen them rally against each other claiming good only for themselves’ yet we have no wise counsel or good to look on’ for all the manuals in the world we still cannot build a community’ “oh brother oh sister this is our punishment this is our curse” and the only way to lift this curse is to repent our actions or lack of action because we know “Allaah will never change the condition of a people until they change that which is in them’ until we undo the wrongs we have done and done to others and until we do justice to ourselves and to others then it seems like pride and folly and all the other vice encapsulated in those evils that men sow’ will be the order of the day for as a wise man said as “as a man sowed so shall he reap” so we will end the cycle by adhering to the sunnah of the rightly guided’ by taking the sure example of those approved by Allaah subhanah wa ta Allah and the many examples of real men in the quraan as imam bukahari pointed out in his collection of hadith in the preface that Christianity is men without religion and Islam is a religion with out men

On a note to all those fathers or would be’ you are shepherds in respect of your families and the responsibility falls to you to teach your children deen not the schools or the nurseries there are many people out there who think it’s the teachers job’ you make a massive mistake! Not only will it fail Children will only follow the example they see I wont even send my children to a madrasah after school they learn more bad language their than they would if I sent them to the middle of town on a Saturday night, trust your self to do the right thing then you are sure the job will get done, the best place for a child to learn is in the home that’s is not forsaking school but why not supplement every thing with the deen then maybe when they go to school you will find they have something to show the world then maybe things will change by our own example and by the will of Allah all things are possible’ its time for macho men to leave and the real men to stand up and show our youth by example we don’t need any macho men we need fathers and mothers positive role models not broken families and shattered lives but willing obedience and servitude to his cause and the deen of Islam . Happiness is in doing the right thing and the most priceless feeling in this world is to go to bed with a clean conscience in that you have harmed no one and if life isn’t like that then perhaps you should ask why?

Anonymous

16th January 2006, 06:49 PM

Just a quick point......I didnt read the full article as Im pressed for time, but I see the some incorrect understanding of the ayat that 

"Allah will never change the circumstances of a people until they change themselves" parafrasing

Many people understand this ayat that we should just sit in seclusion and just do our 5 day prayers and somehow, somewhere, from the sky an Islamic state will drop out of no where!

I think these are really dangerous understandings.

Allah said he wont change people unless they change themselves....YES...but what does Alllah mean? Is the ayat just limited to praying 5 times a day? NO WAY.******* Allah means EVERYTHING...hence one way to change ourselves would be to deal with international issues and talking of the plight of Muslims.....CALLING FOR The SHARIAH is one way to change ourselves.,....

Unfortuantely many stubborn people like tableekis and some salafees dont understand this, they understand things in theoritical contexts, not practical,,,,hence when we see the salafi talking of tawheed, he doesnt understand that tawheed is also ruling by Allahs religion...

and when the tablighi talks about "perfecting" oneself ...well when is that time to say "yes now I am a perfect Muslim" in fact ...even in an Islamic*******state we must perfect ourslves!!

SO HENCE WE MUST BE CAREFUL!

Since we are threatend that if we dont enjoin the good upon ourselves, the community, the ummah, then we could get punished

Dont get me wrong, we do need to change ourselves, that is a neccesary condition ( I wish HT knew of it since even they agree that there has to be a level of "public opinion" before the state is established , thats why they have a second stage....but their too thick to understand their own method)

but we need to CHANGE our ways.

its been too long that our mosque imams and committees are held unaccounted for

its been too long that we have been silent over international problems,

its been too long since we been silent over an islamic state,

its been too long since we been silent on changing the corrupt aqeedah of people, to which HT play a big role in killing this dawah as tehir muataizilah in aqeedah...i.,e they allow people to deny Allahs being sene on Qiyammah, the karamat, adal qabr etc etc

I thought I might add that

Anonymous

16th January 2006, 07:24 PM

How can Allah gave us a great leader when its crystal-clear the majority of The Muslimiyn including The Mu^miniyn are not ready to do what he ( The Khalifa[t] ) will comand and tells us to do.

I call The Muslimiyn to remember the story of amiyru-(a)l-mu^miniyn Yushaa^ bin Nuwn Al-Israa^iyliy al-Mi'sriy. Allah commanded him to take The Sinai Battalion then go into Kana'an - THEN WIPE OUT THE CULT OF 'SUHYUN (ZION/ZEPHON/TSION - the ultimate troublemakers in the world) - COMPLETELY. Well actually originally The Command was given to A(l)-nnabiy Muwsa(y)-(i)bnu
'Imraan but apparently as told in The Qur'an The Israa^iyliyuwn Mishlaamim (Muslimiyn) chickened out to face The
Kana'aniyuwn except two - Kalib and Yushaa^. So Allah sent them off into the scorching desert, and not until 40 years later, that after years of experiencing hardship that they are ready to fight the good fight.

But it's clear they Divine peration planned by The Supreme Emperor, Lord and Creator of The Worlds failed to complete its objective because The Israa^iyliyuwn disobeyed 'Amiyru-(a)l-Mu^miniyn Yushaa^ bin Nuwn command when he lead the Sinai Battalion crossing The Urdunn to strike at The Cult of 'Suhyun in Al-Quds.

They disobeyed The Divine Command out of personal greed, personal convictions and pure stupidity, JUST AS WE ARE DOING TODAY, na'uzdubi-(a)llah. As a result The Cult of 'Suhyun not only got away, but managed to infiltrated The First Battalion of Allah's Imperial Army of Heaven and Earth and tear it from within. By the time 'Iysa(y)-(i)bnu Maryam came to set up The Seir Battalion, The A'hzaab were more than prepared for it, The Second Battalion was attacked from within from the start-go. Almost immediately after his ascension, they were talk of his divinity.

Unfortunately The Third Battalion has crumbled as well due to
corruption and disturbance against unity from the sects.

Since we won't do it ourselves what needs to be done, Allah is currently purging HIS earth-side Battle-Array of foolish backsliders - HIS OWN WAY OF COURSE - and as the recent tsunami, earthquakes and invasions had indicated - this little Divine Operation won't be a pretty sight! na'uzdubi-(a)llah. Just as The Israa^iyliyuwn were forced to wander for 40 years in the desert, The Muslimiyn are being battered left-and-right in order to prepared them for what is nesseccary. Al-'hamduwli-(a)llah.

Inshaa^Allah, soon The Farrran Battalion, The Third and last Battalion of Allah's Imperial Army of Heaven and Earth here on Earth will be ready again for the great final march towards Al-Mashaar, towards Al-Quds!

Verily indeed, Nubuwwa[t] has ended. They won't be a forth battalion coming! The Farran Battalion must have TOTAL OBEDIENCE to The Command before Allah
hurls The Mu^miniyn for one last time against HIS enemies; if The Cult of Zion, The Cult of Rome, The Cult of Trinity, The Cult of The Sun, The Cult of The Cow, The Imperial Cult, The Cult of The Five - ALL - to be wipe out completely.

Allah will win this War those fools Ibliys and Dajjal started whether anybody likes it or not. HIS Light and Way will reign supreme once more on Al-'Ard. Only a matter of time. Al-'hamduwli-(a)llah.

The point is, we can forget about The Khilafiya[t] as a reality as long we are not ready to do what is neccessary and required of us. The very simple ideals of... "Sami'gna wa ato'gna".

Look around, too many of us still hanky-pankying with The A'hzaab of Ibliys and Dajjal. Showing friendship to the Enemies of Allah. Na'uzdubi-(a)llah.

Until The Umma[t] is ready for and to do The Great Slaughter, for Al-Malhama[t]u-(a)l-'Uzdma/Kubra^... we can just keep dreaming of the return of The Khilafiya[t] in our du'a. :(

Anonymous

16th January 2006, 09:00 PM

Addendum:

What i'm trying to put forward is that the missing khilafiya[t] IS THE SYMPTOM OF THE PROBLEM, NOT THE ACTUAL CAUSE OF IT. Rather, the problem is with us.

Anonymous

16th January 2006, 09:22 PM

Allah will give victory to whom he pleases. He will give victory to a small group over a large one. Allah will support the ones that are fighting to establish the Islamic state worldwide who are upon the correct Aqeedah. No one will be able to stop the victory of Allah if it is bestowed upon the Mujahideen no matter how currupt the Ummah has gotten Allah will give the authority to those who are pious regardless of there numbers.

Anonymous

17th January 2006, 12:16 AM

Assalamu Alaykum,

Theres a good saying that fits these types of situations perfectly and that is, 

" Then Ends(Goal) doesn't justify the means"

*******Now everyone is in agreement on this but what also should be added to the saying is.

"Just because some people use incorrect means doesn't mean that the Ends(Goal) is incorrect and unjustified."

This tactic is used by the Kufar on our communities to change public support for most of the modern causes.

Example "Chechnia" now the muslim world was leaning to support the brothers out there but after the school bombing the whole plight of the Chechnians seemed to be forgotten.******* So because some people used an incorrect means to get their point accross that made the whole Chechian issue incorrect.******* WA ALLAHI, the Kufar gained more from that situation then the muslims.

But this is just one example, you can also find the same opinions being directed towards the Palistinians, Afgans, Iraqis, Albainians, Kashmiris etc. etc.******* This has even gone to such an extreme that if you mention astablishing an Islamic state people with automatically start speaking about all the incorrect things muslims have done in the past in the attempt to establish a Muslim state.******* 

I want to give you a good example of the dangers of this oppininated trend.******* Lets say that one person is a caller to Islam now this person doesn't have allot of knowledge and uses a very extreme approach to correct peoples mistakes, lets say that when ever he sees someone pray wrong he hits and screams at them.******* No for sure this isn't the way of correcting peoples mistakes, but do we say that sense this person did this wrong that we don't correct our brothers prayers and give advise when need be.******* 

So I reccomend that such comments that remind people of the incorrect things some people of a certain cause do should be avoided.******* To say such things like those who are the most vigilant callers defending the hijab don't even wear hijab is incorrect.******* Also we do see some BIG things incorrect with the people calling to the establishment of the Khilifate but their call doesn't leak into the REAL call of the Mujahideen that have bleed to protect or raise such an honorable goal for our nation.*******

My address to the political groups in the West and other countries is to defend the muslims rights and make sure the people know the oppression going on in the world.******* By doing this you will aid the Muslims and most importantly the Mujahideen that are the ones who face the most oppressioin.******* The truth is under the shade of the swords and thats where like the victorious group, has been that way in the past, is that way now and will be until the day of judgement.

Anonymous

17th January 2006, 06:31 PM

But thats the problem goimalik.........

Muslims Should want the rule of ALlah, and in the end when you said that the only thing we can do is dream for the khilafah....well I have to say that is false!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do you mean brother about dreaming for it?

the khilafah is coming back...........FACT....its not a dream......and this is precisley what I was saying......certain brothers just wanna set back and ream and make dua for khilafah....which is fine...as long as thats not the only thing you do....

May Im wrong...and your right.........but please give the the daleel that to say that the best thing we can do is dream about khilafah in our duas....I doubt you could do that.

Im sorry if you find me a bit abrasive, but what you said is extremely dangerous, please read my first post....

If the sahabah had the same sit bac , dream and make dua understanding as you , then Islaam would of been long dead.

WS

Anonymous

17th January 2006, 09:45 PM

There is no need of melodrama. Read btwn the lines. Some people go out and achieve their dreams. Not all dreamers sit back and wait. Not everything is black and white, in btwn there are greys.

There is nothing dangerous in what i'm saying. Only you don't understand what i'm indicating coz you are looking at it from a different angle from i do, as we have different level of understanding, wisdom and expertise. Those who understand, understand; those who don't, don't.

I suspect our system of observang and finding The Truth is different as well - where you would extol that "we should stick to the sa'hiyhain", while i would say "we should at the very least look in the Si'haah sitta[t]"...

"Lest you should say: "The Book was only
sent down to two sects before us, and
for our part, we were in fact unaware of
what they studied."

[Al-An'aam 6:156]

Furthermore, i suspect, you look Allah's Al-Islaam Plan start point with Mu'hammad ibnu 'Abdu-(a)llah (hence you are identifying yourself a "salaafi"), while I look at The Al-Islaam Plan majorly with the with the coming of ^Ib-raahiym Al-Hanifaa^; where Allah begin laying down HIS traps, machinations, trickeries and
ambushes against The A'hzaab to annihilate them once and for all...

"The Messenger believes in what has
been sent down to him from his LORD,
and (so do) The Mu^miniyn. Each one
believes in Allah, HIS Malaa^ika[t[,
HIS Books, and His Messengers...

They say, "We make no distinction*******
between one another of HIS
Messengers"

...and they say, "We hear, and we
obey. (we seek) YOUR Forgiveness,
our LORD, and to YOU is the return."

[Al-Baqara[t] 2:285]

*if you are wondering why i'm splitting the verse like above. It is
because i do not like to splice up a quranic verse - pasting only a
portion of it to forward my views as the customs that many writers uses. Glory be to Allah and may HE guards me from it, never will i splice a quranic verse like so many had done. For some reason, when i try to bold the part i'm emphasing the tags are all messed up, so i split the verse up like that, but the whole verse is there still.

It's just difference of values in our Perception of Vision we have despite both being Muslimain, which unfortunately, Allah has no which to intervene directly (as HE has chose to "hid" HIMSELF until The Appointed Time, in order to let the "rats" come out and play).

Anyway, my posting wasn't a reply to yours but rather to some of the context of the article (just that it came out after yours) and you will see that...

"Say:...

"I exhort you on one (thing) only:
that you stand up for Allah's sake
in pairs and singly, and reflect".

...There is no madness in your
companion, he is only a warner to
you in face of a severe torment."

[Sabaa^ 34:46]

Anyways...

"Have they not travelled through the
land, and have they hearts
wherewith to understand and ears
wherewith to hear?

...Verily, it is not the eyes that grow
blind, but it is the hearts which are
in the breasts that grow blind."

[Al-'Hajj 22:46]

Anybody who bother to study how Allah govern Creation, HIS Plan, HIS Way and how HE is dealing with this little stupid rebellion that Ibliys and Dajjal started...

"Verily, they are but plotting a plot"[15]

"And I am planning a plan."[16]

"So give a respite to The Kaafiriyn.
Deal you gently with them for a
while."[17]

[A(l)-'t'taariq 86:15-17]

...knows Allah have a systematic rational reasonic system of governance, to the point HE threaten to throw the disciples of 'Iysa(y)-(i)bnu Maryam in The Fire for asking for miracles where they requested a meal from Heaven to be sent down (again it's there in The Qur'an).

"Do they not then consider the Quran
carefully?

...Had it been from other than Allah,
they would surely have found
therein much contradictions."

[A(l)-nnissa^ 4:82]

Al-'hamduwli-(a)llah of this "System" i speak of, many of The Rules has HE outlined in The Quran. One of which is...

And many a Prophet fought and
along with him LARGE BANDS of
religious learned men.

...But they never lost heart for
that which did befall them in
Allah's Way, nor did they weaken
nor degrade themselves. And
Allah loves A(l)-'s'saabiriyn."[146]

"And they said nothing but: "Our
Lord! Forgive us our sins and our
transgressions, establish our feet
firmly, and give us victory over
The Kaafiriyn."[147]

So Allah gave them the reward of
this world, and the excellent reward
of the Hereafter. And Allah loves
The Mu'hsiniyn."[148]

[Al-'Imraan 3:146-148]

It is true a smaller group can defeat a larger group. But just how small is "SMALL" really? Coz Allah is saying we need LARGE BANDS to strikeback successfully against The A'hzaab, unlike the Jihaad-salaafis, i'm looking at the big-gest picture possible to my comprehension coz i don't like the idea of fighting the same crap again and again to no end, deal with it, and deal with it once and for all, forcefully if must...

And kill them wherever you find them,
and turn them out from where they
have turned you out...

And The Fitnah is worse than killing.
...And fight not with them at
Al-Masjidi-(a)l-Haram, unless they fight
you there. But if they attack you, then
kill them. Such is the recompense of
The Kaafiriyn.

I'm not trully interested in the setting up of a Khilafiya[t] on Earth as Rasuwlu-(a)llah (S'AWS) already indicated Allah will return The Khilafiya[t] once the condition is right. When the time comes The Khilafiya[t] will come whether anybody likes it or not. What i want to see is The A'hzaab wipeout COMPLETELY ONCE AND FOR ALL so that i can return to Allah after The Job is done. Once The War comes to and end and Allah's Imperial Banner and Rule re-established throughout Al-'Ard just it was before Ibliys begin his foolish rebellion...

"Verily! WE will inherit the earth and
whatsoever is thereon. And to US
they all shall be returned."

[19:40]

Then and only then will Allah reclaim HIS earth-stucked Imperial Army of Heaven and Earth back to Janna[t].

Screw Earth and everything in it! I want to return to Allah where I belong. What's with HIM is better. And the only way to do that is TO WIPEOUT IBLIYS AND DAJJAL'S A'HZAAB REBELLION COMPLETELY - with or without The Khilafiya[t] to back us up.

And WE have sent down to you The
Book in truth, confirming The Book
that came before it and Muhaymina[n](a)
over it. So judge between them by
what Allah has revealed, and follow
not their vain desires, diverging away
from the truth that has come to you...

To each among you, WE have
prescribed a law and a clear way.
If Allah willed, HE would have made
you one nation, but that (HE) may test
you in what HE has given you

so strive as in a race in good deeds

The return of you (all) is to Allah

...then HE will inform you about that in

which you used to differ."

[Al-Maa^ida[t] 5:48]

Anyways. Our propaganda front is all in shambles and disarray, while Ibliys and Dajjal's A'hzaab has succeeded in using our own people to un-consciously spread their proganda against The Imperial Banner of Allah. Na'uzdubi-(a)llah.

Many of us screams about fiqh instead of taw'hiyd (mistaking and jumbling up the two interwining issues). It's one thing i observe how The System works, fiqh actually splits us up, while taw'hiyd unifies, and those who******* understand taw'hiyd correctly, can understand fiqh easily.

So I don't know about your way of thinking, call me a deviant or whatever you like, but as far as i'm concern, my duty is to call people to taw'hiyd, while it is everyone own individualistic duty to Allah seek and educate themselves with The Divine Law ratified by The Third Book.

Anyway back to looking at history, last blow we had with The Romans, it took Salahu-(al)-ddiyn Al-Ayyubiy a HUGE ARMY just to repel The A'hzaab main (and larger) forces out of The Empire of Faith, and that's only to kick them out, not take them in their stronghold in Aurubaa^. But true to Rasuwlu-(a)llah (S'AWS) promise of The Romans' nature, they are back with 10 times the conviction to kick us down.

I respect Al-Qaa^ida[t] and all the groups out there, but Al-Qaa^ida[t] and all the group combine is a pin-prick compare to Salahu-(al)-ddiyn's contingent.

If you bother to look deep into the umma[t], despite our differences, we have fighters - LOADS! - youth who are willing to die for The Glory of Allah, but they are not coming out en mass. Why?

THE PROPAGANDA FRONT IS IN SHAMBLES.

I dare say 90% of our youth don't even know what's inside The Qur'an alone.

Anyways, back to observing historical events as Allah commanded us. The Ummaya[t], The 'Abbasiya[t], The Usthamaniya[t] and The Saljuwqiya[t] all had one time another massed huge army to try and take The Capatoline Citadel of The Romans in order to grab the honour as told by Rasuwlu-(a)llah (S'AWS) that the best Imperial Brigade assembled from The Mu^miniyn - is the one that will take Ruwmawiya[t]'s heart - The Capitoline Citadel. But so far they all have failed.

So again, its true a small army can defeat a larger army, but just how small is "SMALL" really? Coz Allah is saying we need LARGE BANDS to strikeback successfully. As i said...

"You shall certainly travel from
stage to stage."

[Al-Inshiqaaq 84:19]

...currently, situation not conducive for a khilafiya[t] right now. We can dream about the khilafiya[t]. Allah won't be sending one just yet. Until the condition is prime, no khalifa[t].

THE MISSING KHILAFIYA[T] IS A SYMPTOM NOT THE PROBLEM.

"Has not the story reached them of
those before them? - The people of

Nuw'h, 'Aad and Sthamuwd, the
people of ^Ib-raahiym, the
dwellers of Madyan and the cities
overthrown, to them came their
Messengers with clear proofs...
*******
So it was not Allah who wronged them,
but they usd to wrong themselves."

[A(l)-'t'tawba[t] ]

Let those who under stand ponders. Those who don't... leave me be to my "madness"...

"But if they turn away. WE have not sent
you as a protector over them. Your duty
is to convey. And verily,
when WE cause
man to taste of Mercy from US, he
rejoices thereat, but
when some ill befalls
them because of the deeds which their
hands have
sent forth, then verily,
man (becomes) ingrate!"

[A(l)-sh-shuwra(y) 42:48]

Anonymous

18th January 2006, 01:24 AM

Assalam Alaykum,



The article is excellent alhamdulillah. 

Going to any one extreme is easy, but constantly balancing priorities is the hardest test of all - don't*******only focus on one's self, but then don't*******only focus on what's out there. A constant balancing act.



Some of the responses were a bit weird though eh?



Second is just a tedious soapboxer - give it a rest - you admit you didn't even read the whole article, but nevertheless find the time*******to write so much, instructing the rest of us on what to do. Learn some adab brother. How can you have*******advice (worth listening to)*******when your manners are so shallow?



Third poster - your phrases (Imperial Armies, Cults) sound seriously weird.

Anonymous

18th January 2006, 02:43 AM

Large bands of fighters are not nessecary and there is no evidence for this from the Quran and Sunnah. Where were the large bands at Badr? Where was the huge army? Where were the large bands in the expiditions of Khalid bin Walid(ra)?

There is a difference between Offensive Jihad and Defensive Jihad. In Defensive Jihad, which we are involved today, it becomes an individual duty to fight just like salat, zakat, etc. So to say that we need to first establish large bands is ridicilous. Thats like saying its time for salat but until i dont have a large jamaah i am not going to pray. But salat is a INDIVIDUAL OBLIGATION just like jihad when the whole muslim world is occupied.

The struggle against our desires is never ending and will be with us til we die this does not mean we abandon certian obligations.

The way to victory is to practice ALL of islam not just pieces. So some who say that we need to first sit around and not do anything but just 'work on ourselves'(which is a life long never ending process) using Ayat of the Quran out of context without looking at the tafseer. The other extreme says no matter how deviant the aqeedah and everything else is we should work to establish the shariah and overlook everything.

The correct approach is to follow all of islam without putting conditions on fighting jihad to liberate the muslim world or putting restrictions on self reformation for the benefit for sum 'larger interest'.

Anonymous

18th January 2006, 08:42 PM

Imperial banner of Allah? What kind of wierd terminology is this.

So again, its true a small army can defeat a larger army, but just how small is "SMALL" really? Coz Allah is saying we need LARGE BANDS to strikeback successfully. As i said...

"You shall certainly travel from
stage to stage."

[Al-Inshiqaaq 84:19]

What does the above ayah have to do with what is being said about large bands?

http://www.islam-usa.net/en/a.48401.html

Anonymous

18th January 2006, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Allah will give victory to whom he pleases. He will give victory to a small group over a large one. Allah will support the ones that are fighting to establish the Islamic state worldwide who are upon the correct Aqeedah. No one will be able to stop the victory of Allah if it is bestowed upon the Mujahideen no matter how currupt the Ummah has gotten Allah will give the authority to those who are pious regardless of there numbers. 

Well put and concise.

Anonymous

20th January 2006, 02:14 PM

<div></div><pre>Na'uzdubi-(a)llah. How jewishly we have become.
Do you remember O Muslimiyn, how the jews of
Yatrib used to taunt The Mushrikiyn how Allah
is with them, and that when The Messiah come,
they will gain the ultimate victory? See you
not how Allah turn the table on the arrogant
ones by making their hearts averse and blind
to Truth? And that is easy for Allah. I warned
you of Allah and HIS Plan.

Anyways as for my "Imperial Banner" statement
maybe this will help clear it up...

On the Day when the earth will be
changed to another earth and so will
be the heavens, and they will appear
before Allah, the One, The Qahhaar.

[^Ib-raahiym 14:48]

Allah, La ilaha illa Huwa,
the Lord of the Supreme Throne!

[A(l)-Naml 27:26]

"Then High above all be Allah,
the True King. And be not in
haste with the Quran before its
revelation is completed to you,
and say: "My Lord! Increase me
in knowledge."

['Taha 20:114]

Do you "see" what i "see"?

The One True King.

The Divine Supreme Emperor of Heaven and Earth.

Master of "The Imperial Banner"...

Laa ilaha-illa-(a)llah.
There is nothing to be worship except Allah.

Say: "Who is (the) Lord of the
seven heavens, and (the) Lord
of the Great Throne?"

[Al-Mu^miniyn 23:86]

I SERVE THAT KING. I'M UNDER HIS IMPERIAL BANNER.
A SERVANT OF THE DIVINE SUPREME THRONE. JUST AS
^IB-RAAHIYM HANIFAA^ AND MU'HAMMAD IBNU
'ABDU-(A)LLAH WAS.

I speak of the true Banner of Tawhiyd.
The Banner under which ALL PROPHETS ARE
UNDER, The Imperial Banner, you says it
is weird?

Are you not worry that you could not
fanthom such simplicity?

Anyway...

Narrated by Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman An-Nu'man told
on Hudhayfah's authority that Allah's Messenger said,

"Prophecy will remain among you as long as Allah
wishes it to remain,

THEN ALLAH MOST HIGH WILL REMOVE IT.

Then there will be a caliphate according to the manner
of prophecy as long as Allah wishes it to remain,

THEN ALLAH MOST HIGH WILL REMOVE IT.

Then there will be a distressful kingdom which will
remain as long as Allah wishes it to remain,

THEN ALLAH MOST HIGH WILL REMOVE IT.

Then there will be a proud kingdom which will
remain as long as Allah wishes it to remain,

THEN ALLAH MOST HIGH WILL REMOVE IT.

THEN THERE WILL BE A CALIPHATE ACCORDING TO
THE MANNER OF PROPHECY."

Then he stopped.

Habib said: "When Umar ibn AbdulAziz became
caliph I wrote to him, mentioning this
tradition to him and saying, "I hope you
will be the commander of the faithful
after the distressful and the proud
kingdoms." It pleased and charmed him, i.e.
Umar ibn AbdulAziz."

Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5378

Like I said, learn to read btwn the lines...

IT IS ALLAH WHO TOOK AWAY OUR PRECIOUS KHILAFIYA[T]
AWAY FROM US.

You can dream about, scream about it, work for it.
but only when HE says it is time, The Khalifa[t]
will come, not a second sooner nor a second later.
A matter certained.

Currently we are not ready for a khilafiya[t] and
what it entails (if we are we be massing somewhere
on Earth right now, instead of spewing bravadoes,
wouldn't we?). Allah out of mercy and love for
Umma[t] Mu'hamamd had to removed The Khilafiya[t]
in order to protect us from Jahannam because we have
grown...

stupid.

The Missing Khilafiya[t] is the symptom. NOT THE PROBLEM.

The Khilafiya[t] is not my cocern as it's return
is ALLAH'S EXCLUSIVE AFFAIR, Heck! Even Al-Ma'hdiy
had to be drag to the ka'aba[t] coz he too don't
want anything to do with it. :D

However, The Muslimiyn's Faith in Allah is my
concern coz as a Muslim i'm suppose to want for
my "neighbour" whatever i would want upon myself
from Allah. ALLAH WILL ONLY GUIDE THOSE WHO ARE
TRUE TO HIM (in more ways than one). And that's
what i want. The Muslimiyn to be guided to safety
by Allah comes "Zero Hour". Any Muslimiyn who are
not ready for it, is going to be swat like a fly
by Allah, since HE already warned everyone in
advance - HIS last and final warning was given
1400 years in advance!

"How shall Allah guide a people who
disbelieved after their belief and
after they bore witness that the
Messenger is true and after clear
proofs had come unto them? And
Allah guides not the people who
are 'Zaalimuwn."

[Al-'Imraan 3:86]

O MUSLIMIYN, INSTEAD OF GOING AROUND LIKE ANGST-RIDDEN
ANGRY PEOPLE, GO OUT AND TEACH PEOPLE AND THE MUSLIMIYN
WHAT THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN:

1. TO FEAR ALLAH.

2. THE GOAL IS TO RETURN TO ALLAH.
Not building islaamic empires. Empires are nothing
more than natural result and outcome of wars.
To the victor goes the spoilts.

3. THE PLAN OF ALLAH.
As Allah only reveal to us what our mind could
comprehend. HE repeatedly talk of a Plan.
Better go out and find out what it is, as you
don't want to be in its way when it is sprung.

4. PREPARE OUR PEOPLE FOR "ZERO-HOUR".
It's ticking down fast! We all need to be
at the right place at the right time.

"Draws near for manking their
reckoning, while they turn
away in heedlessness."

[Al-Anbiyaa^ 21:1]

When The khalifa[t] comes, so will Dajjal.
The greatest fitna[t] warned by
Rasuwlu-(a)llah (S'AWS) that Allah will
unleash upon his umma[t]. That fool is no
george bush. He is a jinn-man. Are you
ready to face that abomination?

Really? How about your love ones,
are they sufficiently prepared? Or are
you that selfishly stupid?

Don't count yourself to high. Many of
us can't even get past the in-sects
fitna[t], let alone Dajjal. Remember,
even many of The Companions tremble at
the idea of crossing his path.

Bewary of what you are asking for.
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Anonymous

20th January 2006, 04:07 PM

Na'uzdubi-(a)llah. How jewishly we have become.
Do you remember O Muslimiyn, how the jews of
Yatrib used to taunt The Mushrikiyn how Allah
is with them, and that when The Messiah come,
they will gain the ultimate victory? 

This is exactly what the people who don't support the Mujahideen's work to make the world most high have to say. That we just sit around and do nothing and wait til the qadar of Allah is established. Just because we know that Allah will make the Ummah victorious does not mean we now just sit around under the excuse that 'we are working on ourselves'. These are the same people who quote ayat out of context to prove there point.

Instead of following ALL of Islam and considering each part of it important they do exactly what the enemies of Islam want us to do belittle it to something that is secularized and a private affair. Brothers and Sisters need to implement all of islam in there lives and around them as well as support the mujahideen worldwide in there effort to make the word of Allah Most High.

The sad part is that according to some Muslims logic that just because we know that one day the majority of earth will become Muslim we should stop giving dawah to the kuffar because we know that the world will become Muslim so why give dawah? Similarly, the arguement is brought up that since we know that Allah will establish the Islamic State we should not work towards the establishment of the Shariah worldwide.

Once again we need to practice ALL of Islam to the best of our abilities. When something is an obligation upon us such as salat, zakat, jihad, etc, we must do it and not compromise anything for the sake of something else. Imagine if someone said I pay a lot of zakat so now I don't need to pray salat? This would be a ridiculous argument and just like that people who say that while the Muslim world is occupied we don't need Jihad but just need to establish salat and wait it all out. However, anyone who cares for there deen will know that we need to perform all of our obligations and not pick and chose based on baseless theories or supposed 'greater interests'.

Anonymous

20th January 2006, 04:09 PM

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="99%" align="center" border="0"><tbody><tr><td class="Article_Title">Sit and Wait?</td></tr><tr><td class="Article_Author">'Ali al-Timimi</td></tr><tr><td class="Article_Read">Article ID: 418 | 400 Reads</td></tr><tr><td class="Article_Read">*******</td></tr><tr><td class="Article_Text">
</text /><text /><div align="center">From the lecture "Muslims and Studies of the Future" 
</div><hr />
We have been informed by the Prophet sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam about many events that will occur in the future. What attitude should we take in this regard? 


So when Allaah (subhaanahu wa ta`aalaa) tells us that it is the West which will be the power and will be our enemy till the Day of Judgment, do we just say, OK, that's a fact, and let us just sit and wait for the battle to come? These are some ideas which some Muslims have that we should just sit and wait for `Eesaa ibn Maryam to come, we should just wait for the Mahdee to appear and until that time we should just sit and just engage ourselves with a lot of intellectual discussions and so forth. Just s it and wait for these events to occur. This is not the way of the Sunnah, the way of the Sunnah is that we face a qadar with a qadar so therefore when it comes to the issue of the West and so forth - we know that for instance that Constantinople will be taken over by the Christians again because the Prophet (Sallallaahu `alaihi wa sallam) said that. Constantinople, when it's going to be conquered before the Day of Judgment, it will be conquered without fighting, but that Muslims will say Allaahu Akbar, and some of its walls will fall, and they'll say laa ilaaha ill Allaah, and some of it walls will fall. This is going to be one of the signs of the Day of Judgment, just by saying these takbeers, the city walls will collapse. 


We know therefore that what we call now Istanbul will have to return back to Christians one day. So then do we just say let the things in Turkey go as they are? Let the secularism and let the Western entrenchment in Turkey continue as it is, because th is is a divine decree that Allaah has decreed. 


No, we fight that qadar with another qadar, in the sense that we make sure that da`wah is in Turkey is strong for as long as it is, so when the time comes for that to occur, it occurs. The Prophet (Sallallaahu `alaihi wa sallam) told us that an Ethiopian with two thin shanks will destroy the Ka`bah, piece by piece. So therefore do we say, "Well, OK, it's going to happen, the Ethiopian s going come and destroy the Ka`bah, so therefore whatever happens in the East Africa, we'll just let it happen?" No. We know this will happen, one day the Ka`bah will be destroyed by an Ethiopian, but we fight that qadar with a qadar by making sure that the da`wah is strong in East Africa and that it remains that no non-Muslim country ever has a rule in East Africa, but that strong Muslim states have that. </td></tr></tbody></table>

http://www.as-sahwah.com/viewarticle.php?articleID=418 (/viewarticle.php?articleID=418)

Anonymous

20th January 2006, 04:28 PM

What Goimaalik is saying would mean we become like the jews and christians only worry about part of our deen instead of all of it. Every part of Islam is important and must be implemented Insh'Allah.

Anonymous

24th January 2006, 02:05 AM

Another butler who has climbed the bash the muslim band wagon.

Anonymous

25th January 2006, 10:40 AM

This Butler is not "bashing muslims".*******
The Prophet peace be upon him said: "Every believer is the mirror of his brother" (hadith no.1329 in bulugh al-maram. reported with a good chain of narrators).


*******

Also, do remember that commanding good and forbidding evil is obligatory. The brother was trying to encourage Muslims to increase their good deeds.

The brother's article was more useful than your post.

Anonymous

25th January 2006, 08:49 PM

Assalaamu'alaikum

JazakAllah Khayr for the article, masha'Allah some good points to reflect on. This is my first post on this forum. Masha'Allah alot of the material and comments are very good and beneficial.******* JazakAllah Khayr for the Anwar Al-Awlaki's lecture download, subhanAllah, awesome!! ( i know off topic!) But..........May Allah grant him, and all the others striving in Allah's cause, shahadaa. May we join*******the truthful and the matyrs*******and reside with them in Jannah. Ameen.

Masha'Allah, i see a lot of knowledge and compassion for the ummah on this forum.******* And this site has probably come closeset to how i feel in regards to the deen. Finally some people who are not afraid to speak the truth, Alhamdulillah! 

Since i go by the rule 'don't fear the blame of*******any blamer' then i will also give naseeha to my fellow muslims on this forum.******* Call it criticism, call it muslim bashing, but our prophet(SAW) called it naseeha.******* 

Some of us lack adhab in our manners of addressing issues at hand and with one another.******* No matter what aqeedah or fiqh you follow, there is no need to go beyond the limits. Im not going to quote every undesirable comment posted as that would be wasting time and i don't want to pinpoint anybody.******* If someone makes statement of kufr or deviation, then you show them the correct way and if they reject, khalaas leave it. Leave them to their misguidance, Allah will guide them if He chooses to. Why should you earn sins or miss out on reward just because someone is saying something contrary to you, so you feel you gotta get one over him and argue back. Correct them in the best possible manner with evidence best to your knowledge and thats your job.******* Your job is not to condemn the muslim government at present or put labels to people. SubhanAllah you are not going to be asked about them on the Day of Judgement. Rather, you should be concerned with what are you doing to establish the khilafa, what are doing in enjoining the Good and forbidding the evil. What are you doing to purify your intentions and seeing that all your actions are done according to sunnah.************** What are you doing that will make the prophet(SAW) proud that you part of his ummah. Waht are you dong for the ummah, for the oppressed and the poor and the orphans. What you doing to be counted as part of the taiful-mansurah.******* What are you doing to yourself from the torment of the grave and of the fire. What are you doing to secure your place in jannah. What are doing that will make Allah love you????? 

Its so easy to get caught up in fitnah. But subhanAllah we are the ummah. We have to stick together, even if we don't agree on all matters. Everyone is different, which means we will have diffrerences. We got bigger fish to fry and i mean fry! Brothers stop arguing. please. subhanAllah the ummah needs you, they're calling out for you, as stated in surah An nisa, the men, the women, the children. They callin for their brethen in faith, thats*******us lot. Discover what your abilities are, your areas of expertise, use them, utilise them to benefit the ummah.******* This the way of the prophet(SAW), he would send*******his*******companions on different missions.******* Richard the lion heart? Who? you mean Hamza(RA) the Lion! Einsten? Give me ibn Abbas(RA), he's my teacher.******* Incredible Hulk? A big green shaytan who would run on the other side of the road if he saw our Umar (RA).******* Come on, these sahabaas are our role models!! *******Yet we do not behave like them. We have so much to be proud of. please don't let us spoil it. For the sake of Allah, excuse each other, forgive each other. Please i would really like to take good from this forum without being upset......Could you that for me? please could you do it for Allah?

I apologise for any offence i may have caused anyone, as that was no where near my intention and Allah knows best.

JazakAllah Khayr ya ikhwaan and ikhwaat.

Wassalaamu'alaikum

Anonymous

27th January 2006, 12:07 PM

What a dissapointing article !!!

Shame on the author - I think a neo-Salafi in the mid 1990's would have been proud of writing this - but not now, because even they have realised that Islam consists of collective as well as individual responsibilities.

I advise the author to read 'The process of Islamisation' by Jafar Shaykh Idris, perhaps he will then realise that if we want to rule by Islam, we have to have a systematic plan for it. 

Also, I am shocked that he thinks that ruling by the Shar'eeah is merely a good idea, or desirable - would he dare say that about any other obligation in Islam, such as Salah, Hajj, Siyaam, Birr Al-Waalidayn..? Of course not - he needs to de program himself from Secularism before he writes another article I think ....

Abuz Zubair

28th January 2006, 08:04 PM

Here are my humble two pennies worth…

I agree with the overall point the brother is trying to make. We often get too engrossed in global or local activism at the expense of our spiritual nourishment and social development. I assume the brother is referring to HT in this article. And if so, then it is also true that since their inception until Omar Bakri was expelled from the party, they hardly contributed anything to society. In fact, if anything, due to Bakri their whole attitude was very counterproductive, and much of the stick they are getting now from lack of support from Muslim community and pressure from the government is a consequence of just that.

There is no condemning of activism, so long as our spiritual void is being filled. After all, we are not Marxists. We look beyond matter, space and time.

Yet, there has always been the extreme to counter activism in the name of ‘individual reform first’. This extreme, I think, is equally as wrong as the first extreme. This extreme has been most commonly spearheaded by the ‘Salafis’, whose focus of Da’wah has always been individual reform at the expense of social and political interests, whether locally or globally.

Due to this, two decades on from when this ‘Salafiyah’ began, we noticed that the whole Salafi Da’wah has disintegrated, and unlike the various other Muslim groups, such as the Ikhwan, Sufis, Tablighis and Deobandis, Jihadis, or even HTs, the Salafis have failed to contribute anything to the society, whether locally or globally. Many of the figureheads of the Salafi Da’wah, precisely because they feel embarrassed at their lack of achievements through the past decade, have decided to join up with the ‘Muslim protestant movement’ (Tariq Ramadan et al.), while others Salafi leaders have turned to the ‘Muslim Catholicism movement’ (Hamza Yusuf, Keller, Murad, et al), while others have joined both!

Yet, there still exist small pockets of the ‘true and original salafis’, who remain faithful to their heresies as always. The world has gone through tremendous change in the past five years, yet they still seemed to be plugged into the same Madkhali Matrix, oblivious to everything that goes on beyond the four corners of their country club.

This is the reality and a result of unbalanced approach towards our local and global responsibilities and lack priorities.

In light of this, many of the comments the author makes are valid, while others may not be, but might still be understood in a different light.

The author says: ‘The absence of a caliphate to rule the Muslim world was therefore simply symptomatic of this’.

Yes and No. Yes, because ‘Allah does not change (and take away) a blessing He has bestowed upon a people, until they change (the good) that was in them’. We threw the Shariah behind our backs in our personal, social and political life, and the Khilafa was taken away from us.

No, in the sense that the absence of Khilafa is not only a symptom of our illness, but it is also a cause of it without doubt. Because the leadership has a very influential role to play in shaping and moulding the public. Due to corrupt leadership (and in many cases – apostate), the public remain far from Islam. Moreover, the correct understanding of Islam goes against the interests of most of the dictatorships in the Muslim world, because it essentially challenges their authority. Hence, Allah taught us in the Quran to ask us Him to make us leaders for the pious.

The author says: ‘However, it struck me that there is often a disparity between one’s concern for matters and events far removed from one’s own circumstances and one’s concern for matters and events directly under one’s own control’

I think he hit the nail on the head. An example of that is the UK where many scholars and activists arrived fleeing political persecution, and as expected they brought their causes with them. I don’t have any problem with that, so long as they contributed to their immediate society as well. But this is not what happened. They used most of the recourses available to them in the UK and geared them towards their own cause, whether it be Algeria, Egypt, Libya, etc, which in turn kept many of the British Muslim activists underdeveloped.

The author says commenting on demonstrations and rallies: ‘However, the reality is government foreign policy is rarely formed based on slogans scrawled across banners and placards. Despite that, it is common to receive emails distributed by Muslims demanding that we (the Muslim community) participate in the latest rally against whatever’

No political activist believes that rallies and demos change government policy. However, they still organise such rallies because they believe it is an essential part of their struggle. And therefore, if Muslims are called out to participate, they should not back out, but increase the Muslim presence on the street to show a wider and stronger support for whatever Muslim cause. Surely, this is the least a ‘Salafi’ can and is expected to do. It does not take much of one’s time, unless you are called out to a different rally, twice a week!

The author says: ‘Similarly, it gives one a tremendous sense of self-satisfaction to attribute the condition of the world’s Muslims to the rulers of the Muslim world’

And this is wrong, if one blamed everything on the rulers to exempt himself from any blame, as unfortunately it is the case with many activists. This is what I think brother Amir is trying to highlight. However, in reality, I think the blame is shared between the rulers and the ruled, primarily because the rulers are from the masses. They are not sent down from above, nor are they Jinns or Jews. If one were to live in a Muslim country and witness the gross lack of Deen and Taqwa in people in general, he should not be surprise to find himself being ruled by someone who has already sold his nation to the Kuffar.

The author says: ‘However, angry proscriptions for reform that begin and end with politics are only indicative of man’s natural inclination towards feeling good rather than doing good’

Very well said, I think. Allahul-Musta’an.

The author says: ‘The emergence of a state organized around Islamic principles and laws is the natural consequence of this reform’

Yes and No, as previously stated.

Yes, because Islam cannot be established except with individuals who are committed to, and are strict adherents of the message.

No, the Islamic state is more than simply a consequence. It is an objective, which the Muslims must work towards in practical ways and this is more than just perfecting oneself. It is obligatory upon the Ummah to select a Khalifah, and that which is required to fulfil an obligation, is in and of itself, an obligation. Hence, it is obligatory to take all practical steps towards the establishment of an Islamic state.

Yes, correctly nurtured individuals are required to form a healthy society, and then an Islamic political system, but also the system is also required to change the people. As Allah says: ‘When the aid and victory of Allah comes, and you see the people entering into Islam in multitudes’. Hence, people only enter into Islam in multitudes when Allah’s aid and victory comes, and Islam becomes a dominant force on earth.

History also proves that Makkah did not turn into Dar al-Islam by individual reform, but by conquest. In fact, the entire Seerah of the Prophet – SallAllahu ‘alaihi wasallam – is a proof for that. Likewise, the people in Iraq and Sham only became Muslims after the Muslim armies conquests. Similarly, the Muslims from Albania to Chechnya only became committed communists due to the ‘Communist Crusades’.

The author says: ‘As Muslims, this is where the locus of our concerns should really be: with ourselves; our families; our communities and those we are able to influence for the better’

May be, or may be not.

There are three ways of looking at our priorities, responsibilities and concerns.

1)*******Individual as opposed to communal responsibilities, and
2)*******Local as opposed to global responsibilities, and
3)*******What are person is capable of doing, as opposed to what he isn’t.

In my humble view, a person should try to strike balance in all his affairs. So he should not be completely individualistic in his approach (as the Salafis tend to be), but should also have concerns for his community. For instance, one should concentrate on one’s Deen and Akhirah by gaining knowledge, seeking the Halal and avoiding the Haram, which goes for his individual concern. Whilst, if he knows that his community is in need of a Muslim school for youngsters, he should do what he can in his capacity to build Muslim schools, which would show his communal concern.

In terms of local responsibilities, for instance, a Muslim should try his best to provide Halal financial alternatives for Muslim students and businessmen. Whilst, he should also remember his ties with the Ummah globally, and participate in whatever way he can, whether politically or charitably, in alleviating suffering from his brethren abroad.

In terms of what one is capable of doing, then one should concentrate on whatever method or way one thinks can benefit the Ummah. Not everyone has to be a scholar, a Mujahid, a doctor, a teacher, etc. Rather, one should peruse what he’s good at, and benefit the Ummah with it, even subjects like Arts and Media.

But the vision of a global Ummah should never become blurred.

The author ends his article saying: ‘Or, as I told my activist friend, if you wish to see the return of the Caliphate then perhaps the best thing to do is to stop working for it’

Although, I understand what the author wants to say, he still shouldn’t have said it.

1)*******The apparent meaning of it is logically and legally incorrect. It is illogical to achieve something by abandoning the required struggle for it. Allah also says: “Say (to them): Work! For Allah will see your work, and His messenger and the believers”
2)*******It does not help convince anyone from HT or other activist groups. It only enrages them and defeats the purpose of this article
3)*******It reminds of Muhammad Shaqra’s book Hadhihi al-Salafiyah (This is the Salafiyah), where he states: The best form is Jihad is to leave Jihad, and the best preparation for Jihad is to leave preparation for Jihad, thinking his statements to be from the peak of eloquence!

But overall, the article had important points to make, may Allah reward the author. The author also has many other very good articles that we can benefit from.

Was-salaamu ‘alaikum

Anonymous

4th February 2006, 06:31 PM

At least now you agree with the need of an islamic state, rather call it bid'ah.

You have no clue, Let me refer you to what Uthmam bin Affan (RA) said regarding prayer,

"For those who are lacking the taqwa

Anonymous

2nd March 2006, 07:41 AM

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This is exactly what the people who don't support the Mujahideen's work to make the world most high have to say.