Hadith about the Prophet [s] Contemplating Suicide

[JayshAllah]

http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/rebuttals/suicide

[Hamza]

Who is Shaykh GF Haddad?

Is this the pledge in action?

[JayshAllah]

Who is Shaykh GF Haddad?

Is this the pledge in action?

Just because you are angry at me in another thread does not mean that you need to attack me everywhere. This is the problem with your types: you can only see black and white. You can agree with me on some points, and disagree with me on others. But the problem with your types is that as soon as someone doesn't tout your line, then you turn against them like vicious dogs. Just like many of you turned on Sh. Salman Al-Aodah.

The Ahlel Bayt website will even use the material of Zaydis, Akhbaris, etc. when it is against the Shia.

Ansar.org uses Ahmad alKatib's works against the Imamiyyah, even though alKatib is a non-Imami Shia.

Therefore, there is no issue with using the material of a Sufi if it is helpful in refuting the Imami Shia.

This has nothing to do with any pledge. It has to do with using any and all material I could find on the topic, with my limited resources.

[JayshAllah]

Apologies for my harsh tone. Brother, please see my apology here and graciously accept it:

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=52467&postcount=65

[Abu Malik al-Maliki]

Jaysh good work, dont listen to them...

[Hamza]

then you turn against them like vicious dogs

Like a Jap Akita!?

:)

[Abu Malik al-Maliki]

then you turn against them like vicious dogs

Your supposed to be fasting

[JayshAllah]

Your supposed to be fasting

I apologized.

[Um Abdullah M.]

akhi JayshAllah,
jazakallahu khayran
and I understand what you mean but
people who don't know G F Haddad, and follow ur site, might think that it is ok to take the teachings of deen from him, for they don't know his slander and lying against others and his corrupt beliefs.
So because they trust ur site, they think that every person you quote is trustworthy.

so try to search for another shaikh who has said something similar, I am sure you can get good answers from other than the evil Haddad.

[Student_of_Knowledge]

akhi JayshAllah,
jazakallahu khayran
and I understand what you mean but
people who don't know G F Haddad, and follow ur site, might think that it is ok to take the teachings of deen from him, for they don't know his slander and lying against others and his corrupt beliefs.
So because they trust ur site, they think that every person you quote is trustworthy.

so try to search for another shaikh who has said something similar, I am sure you can get good answers from other than the evil Haddad.

Evil???

Is that a correct form of address for another Muslim who is suppository trying to defend something?

[Um Abdullah M.]

lying and slandering others is evil
also calling for istighatha which is shirk
unless you don't consider that evil


he also believes that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is ominpresent !

and much more

[Um Abdullah M.]

unless you think I am talking about "Haitham Haddad"
then your mistaken

I am speaking about "Gibril Fouad Haddad" the extreme sufi whose teachers are Hashim Qabbani and Nazim Haqqani, the callers to shirk.

[JayshAllah]

Isn't it Haitham Hamdan*, not Haddad?

[Um Abdullah M.]

these are 3 different people:

1. Haitham Hamdan = sunni
2. Haitham Haddad = sunni
3. Gibril Haddad = extreme sufi

[JayshAllah]

these are 3 different people:

1. Haitham Hamdan = sunni
2. Haitham Haddad = sunni
3. Gibril Haddad = extreme sufi

Both Haitham Hamdan and Haitham Haddad are on Multaqa ahl al-Hadeeth?

[Um Abdullah M.]

well Haitham HADDAD has a few posts in the Arabic multaqa but haven't seen any member with that name in the English one.

and Haitham HAMDAN is the admin of multaqa ahl Hadeeth

[Student_of_Knowledge]

lying and slandering others is evil
also calling for istighatha which is shirk
unless you don't consider that evil


he also believes that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is ominpresent !

and much more

Really?

How is that possible when even a child knows that Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is no longer alive and when he was alive, he was a human?

istighatha is what is explained below & can't really argue with that:

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=19581&postcount=1

[suhail]

Brother Student of knowledge,

All the barelvis and extreme sufis believe that Prophet Sallahu Alyhe wa sallam is omnipresent. It is a well known truth which was spread by the extreme sufis and also by the founder of Barelvi sect Ahmed Raza Khan.

Jazakallah Khair
Suhail

[Um Abdullah M.]

Really?

How is that possible when even a child knows that Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is no longer alive and when he was alive, he was a human?

istighatha is what is explained below & can't really argue with that:

http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=19581&postcount=1

several years ago I read an article by him trying to prove that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is ominpresent.
at the time I didn't really know him, so I was searching info about him and found that article so I knew he was deviant.
I will search for it insha Allah.

He also slanders his opponents and distorts in translation.

[Um Abdullah M.]

here it is:

http://www.sunnah.org/aqida/haadir_wa_naadir.htm