View Full Version : Tawheed Al-Hakimiya series, Part 1
Anonymous
2nd February 2006, 10:04 AM
<div>Salamu Alaykom ,It has finally arrived! The brothers have finally completed the first part of a series of parts refuting the Sophisms being layed out by the adherents of Baatil concerning the misconceptions about Yusuf (a.s), the Negus and Al-Fadhoul allience, which the deviants try their hardest to use for their misguidence and of misguiding the masses to believe in <font size="2">RULING</font> by other than what ALLAH (swt) has Revealed. I have sent it through yousendit.com for you to use and if possible spread to other Forums etc.
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3OXMD773PMZEC2206Q66P92KB2
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May Allah reward us for our efforts
The next part of the series will be the Negus, it will be complete A.S.A.P.
Wa Salam.</div>
Anonymous
2nd February 2006, 11:36 AM
wa aleykum assalam and jazak Allahu khair! Please do post the other part.
salam.
Hiker
5th February 2006, 07:05 PM
Is this document authentic</p>
what is it saying</p>
and who is it written by..</p>
Hiker
8th February 2006, 12:33 AM
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<span style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase"><font color="#000000" size="2">Tawheedul-Haakimiyyah as a Separate Category is an Innovation</font></span></p>
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<span style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></span></p><span style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase"><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000"><font size="2"></font></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000"><font size="2">Shaykh Abu Maalik Muhammad Ibn Ibraaheem Shaqrah said about the usage of this term:</font></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">"There cannot be any correctness in that.." </font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">He described it as a term saying:</font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">"It is not supported in the language." </font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">He wrote in an article:</font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">"Verily some people have attacked us with a newly </font><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">invented term, 'Tawheedul-Haakimiyyah'! This is only to beautify it and to make it acceptable to oneself. It will not be long before it is destroyed and vanishes." </font></p><p align="justify"><font size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">He also went on to say:</font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">"Verily the word Haakimiyyah in connection with the word Tawheed necessitates deviation from the ijmaa' (consensus) of the ummah which is pleased with having only three types of tawheed." </font></p><p align="justify"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font color="#000000" size="2">"To make haakimiyyah a separate category from the categories of tawheed is an innovated action. None of the imaams we know of have ever spoken of this."</font></p><p align="justify"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font size="2"></font></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font color="#000000" size="2">Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Saalih al-'Uthaymeen</font> (/scholars/uthaymeen/index.htm)<font color="#000000" size="2"> was asked about this concept, so he said:</font></font></p><p align="justify"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">"This statement is a newly-invented, innovated, evil saying, making the one who uses it repugnant…and it is indeed a misguided innovation." </font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">He also said:</font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">"Verily the one who calls to that is an innovator. Indeed this is an innovated categorization, emanating from an ignoramus who does not understand anything from the </font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">matters of Creed and Religion."</font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></font></p><p align="justify"><font size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font color="#000000" size="2">Shaykh Saalih as-Sadlaan said:</font></font></p><p align="justify"><font size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">"Whoever makes haakimiyyah a fourth category from the categories of tawheed, then he is either an ignoramus or an innovator taking an opinion from the opinions of the philosophers. These are opinions that are not known in the Creed or the sharee'ah. He could also be a human being who is relating things and he does not know what he is relating." </font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font color="#000000" size="2">Shaykh Naasir al-'Aql said:</font></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">"Likewise is the claim that haakimiyyah is the most important characteristic from the characteristics of uloohiyyah: there is no basis for this. It is an innovated claim." </font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">Then he said:</font></p><p align="justify"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">"So al-haakimiyyah therefore, is from the problematic terms which are not founded from the Religion and which does not stem from the Creed. According to the people of our era, its understanding </font></p><p align="justify"><font size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font color="#000000" size="2">Shaykh Muhammad Naasirud-Deen al-Albaanee</font> (/scholars/albaani/index.htm)<font color="#000000" size="2"> said to the proponents of this demented concept:</font></font></p><p align="justify"><font size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">"So you use this term (al-haakimiyyah) to wage war upon those whom you suspect to be disbelievers from amongst the rulers because they do not rule by Islaamic Law. So you have forgotten yourselves, this haakimiyyah covers every Muslim." </font></p><p align="justify"><font size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font color="#000000" size="2"></font></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana"><font color="#000000" size="2">Shaykh 'Abdullaah as-Sabt said:</font></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">"Therefore, why do the revolutionists and the callers to revolution and <u>the khawaarij utilize 'al-haakimiyyah'?</u> I say - as the 'allaamah of shaam, shaykh Naasirud-Deen al-Albaanee explained - that they utilize this for the purpose of politics, since they make this haakimiyyah only for the rulers. For that reason, they quickly run to making takfeer of them, because they do not rule by the Revelation. Followed by this, they obligate revolting against them and carrying weapons! This in itself is from the theory of the Khawaarij of old who carried weapons against the Khaleefah (radiyallaahu 'anhu).</font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font face="Verdana" color="#000000" size="2">So haakimiyyah in our time is used as a way to revolt and revolution and haakimiyyah itself is an old approach. So haakimiyyah therefore, is used as a way to takfeer, so they use it as a justification and as a way of convincing those who follow them until they follow them in what they want! It is an easy way of convincing, especially since we know that those who follow them are those who do not give any worth to the scholars and they do not give their statements any status. Rather they say, 'We are men and they are men.' This is just like what their predecessors used to say!" </font></p><p align="justify"><font size="2"></font></p><p align="justify"><font size="2"></font></p></span></span>
terrorthreat
8th February 2006, 02:19 AM
Here you go you'll find everything you need right here:</p>
http://salafiyyah-jadeedah.tripod.com/</p>
abu asad
8th February 2006, 04:50 AM
</p>
Originally Posted by Hiker</p>
Is this document authentic</p><span style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase"><p align="justify"><span class="postbody"><font size="2">*******</font></span></p><p align="justify" /><p align="justify">Question:</p><p align="justify" /><p align="justify">Are you asking if the document is authentic like you would ask if a certain Hadith is authentic?</p><p align="justify" /><p align="justify">Answer:</p><p align="justify" /><p align="justify">References have been made available, please refer to them.</p><p align="justify" />
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Originally Posted by Hiker</p>
what is it saying<span style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase"><span class="postbody"><font size="2">*******</font></span></span> </p>
Question:</p>
can you*******understand*******and read English? </p>
Answer:</p>
The Arabic version has not been written as yet. (or any other language for that matter).</p>
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Originally Posted by Hiker</p>
and who is it written by..</p>
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*******</p>
Question:</p>
Is it of that great an importance?</p>
Answer:</p>
Secular Commitee of the Rebublic of China!!</p>
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Originally Posted by Hiker</p>
<span style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase"><font color="#000000"><font size="2">Tawheedul-Haakimiyyah as a Separate Category is an Innovation </font></font></span></p>
Brother <span class="name"><a></a><font size="2">terrorthreat correctly refered you to an exellent site</font></span></p><span class="name"><p align="center"><font color="#000099">http://salafiyyah-jadeedah.tripod.com/</font> (http://salafiyyah-jadeedah.tripod.com/)</p><p align="center" /><p align="left">But I would like to add that <font size="2">people carry out the Fatwaa that Tawheed Al-Hakimiyyah is a Bid'ah, although we all agree that Tawheed Al-Hakimiyyah in it's worded format is not found in either the Qur'an, Sunnah or the saying's of the Sahaabah but it's meaning and context is found with in the Qur'an, Sunnah and the saying's of the Sahaabah, which is exactly the same case with Tawheed Al-Uloohiyyah, Tawheed Al-Rubabiyyah and Tawheed Al-Asma' wa'l-Sifaat, that these three divisions are also not found with in the Qur'an, Sunnah or the saying's of the Sahaabah but their meanings and context are found with in the Qur'an, Sunnah and the saying's of the Sahaabah, so, if anyone is to call Tawheed Al-Hakimiyyah a Bid'ah, and barring in mind that the reasons why it is called a Bid'ah is because it is rightly claimed that it is not found "IN IT'S WORDED FORMAT IN EITHER THE QUR'AN, SUNNAH OR SAYING'S OF THE SAHAABAH", and this is their reasoning for calling it a Bid'ah, then by rational necessity they would have to call the other three divisions of Tawheed namely Tawheed Al-Uloohiyyah, Tawheed Al-Rubabiyyah and Tawheed Al-Asma' wa'l-Sifaat a <font color="#ff0000">BID'AH</font> also, because the reality of these three divisions of Tawheed are exactly the same as Tawheed Al-Hakimiyyah which is that their wording is not from the Qur'an, Sunnah or the saying's of the Sahaabah but their meanings are. So if they calim that Tawheed Al-Hakimiyyah is a Bid'ah then you can easly say in reply that "If you calim that Tawheed Al-Hakimiyyah is a Bid'ah, then with out you necessarily realising it, you have just called Tawheed Al-Uloohiyyah, Tawheed Al-Rubabiyyah and Tawheed Al-Asma' wa'l-Sifaat a Bid'ah also".
And it does'nt end there my brothers and sisters in Islam;
If they claim that Tawheed Al-Hakimiyyah is a Bid'ah, and they bring no proof for their statement which, as we already know, they will not be able to any way, then their pronouncment will be incorrect, and will not be derived from either the Qur'an, Sunnah or the saying's of the Sahaabah, and if some thing is not from the Qur'an, Sunnah or the saying's of the Sahaabah then we call that <font color="#ff0000">BID'AH</font>!!, yes my brothers and sisters, their calling Tawheed Al-Hakimiyyah a <font color="#ff0000">Bid'ah</font> is actually a <font color="#ff0000">Bid'ah</font> it's self, so they are actually the innovators, and all this is according to and using their own reasoning which as has been shown here used and reversed against them.
</font>May Allah http://www.at-tawheed.com/forums/images/phrases/swt.gif keeps us*******on the striaght path, http://www.at-tawheed.com/forums/images/phrases/ameen.gif</p></span></span>
waziri
8th February 2006, 01:27 PM
Just to add that Muhamad Ibraheem who was the shaykh of bin baz has written in his book "tahkeem al qawaneen"that tawheed hakimiya is the twin half of tawheed uluhiyah.</p>
Its obvious why certain people would want to deny this branch of tawheed as these people do not want to be governed by the hukum of Allah[swt].</p>
abu asad
8th February 2006, 01:58 PM
Originally Posted by waziri</p>
Its obvious why certain people would want to deny this branch of tawheed as these people do not want to be governed by the hukum of Allah[swt].</p>
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<font size="4"><font face="times new roman,times,serif">But no, by your lord, they can have no faith, until they make you (O Muhammad (saas)) judge in all disputes*******between them, and find in them selves no resistance against your decisions, and accept with full submission</font>.</font> <font size="1">[Surah An-Nisa: 65]</font></p>
gag order
9th February 2006, 01:09 AM
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">the gist of the argument is*******wether one regards allah as the lawgiver or not. it matters not wether it is seperate or connected (for the time being) is he or is he not the lawgiver that is the question?</span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">those who 'deny' that allah is the lawgiver*******(unwittingly) seek to*******conceal it by creating an unrelated side issue of 'seperate category' the reason for this is quite simple:</span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">no believer would dare deny that allah is the lawgiver <u>directly</u> but it is easier to deny it (unwittingly) as a seperate category - clever indeed! however this is problematic because its quite possible that the one denying the use of the terminology of 'haakimiyah' may in turn lead to the denial that allah is the lawgiver altogether. *******</span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">an explanation of yusuf:40 which consists of 4 categories of tawheed (an explanation taken from shaykh faisal):</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">You do not worship besides Him but only names which you have named (forged), <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">(ruboobiyah and asma wal siffat)</span></span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">you and your fathers, </span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">for which Allâh has sent down no authority. The command (or the judgement) is for none but Allâh. <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">(haakimiyah)</span></span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">He has commanded that you worship none but Him that is the (true) straight religion, but most men know not.<span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> (uloohiyah)</span></span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">consider that the term*******tawheed ul asma wal siffat was coined to counter the widspread denial of allah's attributes, today we have the widspread denial that allah is the only lawgiver are there any reasonable grounds to dispute tawheed al haakimiyah? </span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">please note qouting the shaykhs <u>out of context</u> from <u>dubious</u> sources such as SPUBS does not constitute*******reasonable grounds.</span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">the 4 tawheeds a recurring theme in the quran, sura al fatiha:</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"></span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">praise be to allah the lord of the worlds <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">(ruboobiyah)</span></span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">most gracious most merciful <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">(al asma wal siffat)</span></span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">the ruler (maalik) of judgement day <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">(hakimiyah)</span></span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">you alone we worship and to you alone we seek help <span style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">(uloohiyah)</span></span></p>
<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: ">the belief that there is a 4th tawheed which is mentioned seperately from the others in the ayat above is that really an innovation? how do we reconcile the two positions which are diametrically opposed?</span>*******</p>
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