Abuz Zubair refuted

[anti-wahhabi]

We all know the fitna wahhabism has caused.******* 200 yrs ago, ibn abdulwahhab began his so-called da'wah by killing women and children, as even his followers record (see 'Unwan al-Majd).******* In fact they made takfir of all the Ottomans, the protectors of Islam.******* Even his brother, Sulayman and his father said he was vain and rejected his da'wah.******* The ulema of his time opposed him.******* How could he call for awliya grave destruction when tall graves existed in time of salaf, as even wahhabi shawkani notes.******* How can he condemn tawwasul when the famous books of fiqh approve of it (incl. al-Mughni and Nawawi's fatawa)?******* Furthermore, the tajsim he called to like ibn taymiyya was refuted well by qadhi ibn jahba, and Shaykh Haddad has translated this as arradd ala man qala bil jiha.

[abu imaan an-nepalee]

Originally Posted by anti-wahhabi</p>

We all know the fitna wahhabism has caused.******* 200 yrs ago, ibn abdulwahhab began his so-called da'wah by killing women and children, as even his followers record (see 'Unwan al-Majd).******* In fact they made takfir of all the Ottomans, the protectors of Islam.******* Even his brother, Sulayman and his father said he was vain and rejected his da'wah.******* The ulema of his time opposed him.******* How could he call for awliya grave destruction when tall graves existed in time of salaf, as even wahhabi shawkani notes.******* How can he condemn tawwasul when the famous books of fiqh approve of it (incl. al-Mughni and Nawawi's fatawa)?******* Furthermore, the tajsim he called to like ibn taymiyya was refuted well by qadhi ibn jahba, and Shaykh Haddad has translated this as arradd ala man qala bil jiha. </p>



spread the news, the refutation has been posted....what it is refuting is not known......</p>



read the wahabi misconceptions article and that will refute you....</p>

[abu hafs]

Dont forget to continue to ask ur "gawth-e-azam" for help in refuting abuz zubair!!!!!!

How could he call for awliya grave destruction when tall graves existed in time of salaf ?




Imam ash-Shafii said:"I prefer that the soil used for a grave be no more than that dug for that grave. I like to see a grave raised above the ground the length of a hand or so. I prefer not to erect a structure over a grave or to whitewash it, for indeed this resembles decoration and vanity, and death is not the time for either of these things. I have never seen the graves of the Muhajirin or Ansar plastered. I have seen the Muslim authorities destroying structures in graveyards, and I have not seen any jurists object to this."[Kitabul Umm]
Imaam Shafi'i lived till 204 h ....so his works have been written close to this date ...till the time of writing this book HE NEVER SAW THE GRAVES OF THE MUHARJIRIN AND ANSAR PLASTERED AND HE SAW THE AUTHORITIES DESTROYING STRUCTURES IN THE BAQEE' AND NOBODY OPPOSED ...WHAT DOES THAT SOUND TO YOU LIKE ?

[anti-wahhabi]

abuz-zubayr is tongue-tied or cant refute this

[Abu Ilyas]

Originally Posted by anti-wahhabi</p>

We all know the fitna wahhabism has caused.******* 200 yrs ago, ibn abdulwahhab began his so-called da'wah by killing women and children, as even his followers record (see 'Unwan al-Majd).******* In fact they made takfir of all the Ottomans, the protectors of Islam.******* Even his brother, Sulayman and his father said he was vain and rejected his da'wah.******* The ulema of his time opposed him.******* How could he call for awliya grave destruction when tall graves existed in time of salaf, as even wahhabi shawkani notes.******* How can he condemn tawwasul when the famous books of fiqh approve of it (incl. al-Mughni and Nawawi's fatawa)?******* Furthermore, the tajsim he called to like ibn taymiyya was refuted well by qadhi ibn jahba, and Shaykh Haddad has translated this as arradd ala man qala bil jiha. </p>



Any type of dialouge with regards Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahaab is like negotiating a minefield of lies and distortions.</p>



Anti-Wahabi, who wrote Unwan al Majd? There is a lot of distortion in that very short 'refutation'. I suggest you read a GOOD book on Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahaab , can I reccommend one? Courtesy of The Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Saudi Arabia (Yes, I know). Read it here :http://www.islamhouse.com/en/books/pdf/en3957.pdf*******-. about 400 pages authored by Shaykh Jamal Zaraozo</p>



Just be objective</p>



Was Salam.</p>

[anti-wahhabi]

Thank you br liyas, this was exactly the book i was looking for.******* anti-wahhabi is now neo'wahhabi'! Apologies to abu zubair...

[angelfuzion]

are you bieng sarcastic

[Adeel]

Where is the refutation?!!

[Abu Dajana]

You just upped an almost 2 year old topic...!

[Adeel]

Oh sorry! anfel fusion replied 26 minutes before?! i did'nt notice! Sorry!

[umar bin khatab]

I feel sorry for these parrots, poor creatures no proof they have from Qur'an or saheeh hadeeths to refute this great shaikh.

[Abu Maryam PK]

Bismillah
Dont forget to continue to ask ur "gawth-e-azam" for help in refuting abuz zubair!!!!!!

apparently the ghawth (sh abdul qadir jilani rahimahullah) could not save the iraqis from americans nor could he save his own tomb, which was reported to have been damages during the invasion

[abu hafs]

Bismillah

apparently the ghawth (sh abdul qadir jilani rahimahullah) could not save the iraqis from americans nor could he save his own tomb, which was reported to have been damages during the invasion
LOL, just before the invasion some one said to my uncle that because of the tomb the invasion would not be possible ..hahaha

[Abd al-Haqq Marshall]

An extreme-Sufi praying to Ghawth al-Azam to help in refuting Abuz-Zubair? That's a hilarious thought. I can see it now:

Ya Ghous! Help me in refuting this man who holds the exact same aqeedah that you taught in al-Ghunya!

And while he's at it, maybe he should invoke Abu Isma'il al-Harawi as well:

Ya Pir-e-Ansar, chief of the Sufis of Khurasan, whose grave was visited by Shah Naqshband! Help me refute this anthropomorphist! Prevent him from quoting any of your books on aqeedah!