Amani
28th April 2004, 03:19 PM
sudais_fan
Abdullah, i dont think any driving could beat indian driving, never been but from what i`ve heard, if u can drive in india, u could drive anywhere!!
U met sheikh Abdul Aziz al Shaikh? man, u r soooo lucky, u gonna meet sheikh fowzan aswell???
i heard riyadh is more stricter than in jeddah, but i guess in a way the stricter the better!!
u have to agree, some arabs are arrogant, but i guess in all cultures theres always the good the bad and the ugly! thats what people around me dont seem to understand. they all generalise arabs as bad, but they`ve stopped that around me now!!! met any royals yet?
u may not have noticed this, cos ur a man, but when i went there, i was disappointed to see a lot of men staring and following. that can be scary. in that sense england is not as bad!
anyway i wish u have a really nice time there. Dont be too bad. and when u meet sheikh shuraim please see if he has a cough.
a muslim brother. yeh u can get recitation from masjid e nabawi. just type in google what ur looking for.
By Abdullah on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 05:08 pm: Edit
Assalamo-alaikum-wa-rahmtullah-hey-wbrkatu
Sudais_Fan - forgot to mention that Shiekh Fowzan was there also on Thursday night - he had an answer/question session before Isha and then Mufti Al Sheikh did a speech after Isha!
I know what u mean when you say that the arabs are arrogant but I think from my experience that this is just a front and once u get to know them they are very hospitable and friendly! Like you said you get all sorts of people - at least arabs do it 2 ur face whereas the Brits they tend to be sweet 2 ur face and backbite instead!
As for the men staring at the women that is true and to be expected!!!!! BUT, I have also noticed that women are no better here in Riyadh (from personal experience) and they even pass comment!!!!!!!! ASTAGFIRULLAH may allah guide us -ameen
As for meeting Royals have not met anyone yet - although to be honest I could'nt careless if I did or didnt!!!
Abdullah - SAUDI CORRESPONDENT!!!!
By ... on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 12:22 am: Edit
salamz..
yh it it is annoyin downloadin the stuff from aswatalislam.net...
congrats bro abdullah! lol
also....ask shuraim wen he cummin down to england!
w'salam
By ... on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 01:07 pm: Edit
salams...
i have many arab friends... and people have said to me that they dont like arabs cos they dont like pakistanis.. :s...
i dont think that is true? :S
and abdullah.. you're right.. once you get to know them properly... they are very nice..
By shuraimfan on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 09:20 pm: Edit
salaam,
In my opinion shuraim is number one, but i also really like sheikh qasim of medinah. His recitation is amazing mashallah! anyone else like him? Ive looked on the net for his recitation, but all of them seem to be of when he was younger. Anyone know where u can get recent recitations of him?
By sudais_fan on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 12:59 pm: Edit
...
some arabs dont like pakistanis, and bangladeshis for that matter, aswell as indians. however that is because in arab countires they do all the low work.
however no matter how long a foriegner stays in saudi they will never get saudi nationality, which is not right.
shuraimfan, i have heard sheikh abdul muhsin, he prays nice from what i`ve heard, but i couldnt tell the difference between him younger, and now cos i dont listen to him much. sorrry
By Abdurrahman on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 04:23 pm: Edit
As-salaamu 'alaykum,
"ShuraimFan", this is definitely the latest if you want to listen to the latest Ramadhan (1424) recording in Masjid an-Nabawiyy: http://www.liveislam.com/archi/1424/ramadan.htm. By the way, 5 imaams recited there so you'll have to find the qiraa-ah of Shaykh Muhsin Abu Al-Qaasim yourself.
Abdullah, Alhamdulillah, you are in a better place than the rest of us. Keep us updated on when you meet the Shuyookh, especially ash-Shuraym. I trust you will not ask him about his (non-existent) cough (as one person suggests) because we all know that's rude. I have a couple of more relevant questions that you could ask the shaykh when you meet him, Insha-Allah:
o How does he come up with different tunes all the time? (Every year there's an addition to the collection and there was a complete change (inc. surat al-Faatihah) on the 30th night of Ramadhan 1419 (both in taraweeh and qiyaam al-layl - I have one rak'ah of the recording) - mention this particular tune as well if you get the chance!)
o Who are the Shuyookh from whom he derives inspiration in his qiraa-ah? (Obviously he has his uniqueness but in some parts of his tune he has some similarity to Shaykh al-Huzayfee and Shaykh Ali Jabir)
Jazaak Allah Khayraa and I hope everything's well there, Insha-Allah.
Was-salaamu 'alaykum
Abdurrahman
By norazizah on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 05:05 pm: Edit
Assalamulaikum Muslimbrother,
Hope some of your questions answered:
1.aswatalislam has the audio of Quran recitation of many recitors including one entitled "recitation from al masjid al nabawy."
2. Sheikh Ayoub has been at Masjid Nabawy for many many Ramadan and read the doa(This is true) until few years back. I was told he's incharge of Masjid Quba. Allah knows the truth. From my experience, Unlike Makkah,doa is recited by few distinct Imam of Masjid Nabawy interchangbly.
3.Voices of Imam changes with time ( like evrything else). Look at he dates on whatever CD or Cassete you buy to be sure. If theres no date they can mixed the years. So long Wassalam
By norazizah on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 07:29 am: Edit
Brother Abdullah...Assalamualaikum,
hope you and your family have adjusted to living and working in the new environment.(It takes time).May Allah takes care of you all. later,when you manage to visit Shuraim kindly ask these 3 questions for me. 1. What doa did he read during the long sujud in Solat Tahajud? Share with us (2).I have his arabic khutbah set published by Dar-Al-Wattan, my question now...any new publication since 1421 H ? Love to have it. and (3) please ask him to make doa that I too can be a successful writer (in my area)
Jazakallah khir brother Abdullah.
Salam from norazizah.
By Abdullah on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 02:08 pm: Edit
Assalamo-alaikum-wa-rahmtullah-hey-wbrkatu
Well here it is - I have managed to get some detailed information on Sheikh Sudais - (thanks to a little translational help from some Saudi Colleagues!!!!)
Enjoy - no doubt Sudais_Fan will be eager to read this so I will shut up and let you read! I am currently working on a similar thing for Sheikh Shuraim.
Abdullah
*****Biography of Dr Abdul Rehman Al Sudais*******
His lineage is ABU ABDUL AZIZ Ibn ABDUL AZIZ bin ABDULLAH, bin ABDUL AZIZ bin MUHAMMAD bin ABDULLAH and he is from the famous tribe of ANZA.
He was born in Riyadh in 1382 hijri and his father enrolled him to become hafiz in a mosque in Riyadh which was headed by Shiekh Abdul Rehman bin Abdullah Al Faryan. He was also taught the quran by Sheikh Muhammed Abdul Majid Zakir and also various others including Al Sheikh Muhammed Ali Hassan.
At the age of 12 he completed his hafiz studies.
Dr Sudais grew up in Riyadh and attended the Al Mathna Bin Hartha elementry school and also the Scientific Academy of Riyadh - he is one of the most famous students from there.
He graduated from the Scientific Academy in 1399 with a grading EXCELLENT and then went on to the Al Sharia College.
After this he became Imam and Khateeb of a mosque in Riyadh called Masjid Al Sheikh Al Allama Abdur Razzaq Al Afifi.
At the same time he started teaching in the Academy of Imam Al Dawa Al Almy in 1404 and which time he was also appointed the Imam and Khateeb of Masjidal Haram in Mecca Mukarrama.
He started his Imamat in Mecca on the 22/08/1404 leading the Asr salat, and his first Khutba to the people was on the 15/09/1404 which was in ramadhan.
In 1408 he got his masters (grading EXCELLENT) from the College of Sharia in the Islamic University of Imam Muhammed Bin Sauood. His thesis was titled “AL MASAIL AL ASOOLIYA AL MUTALIKA BIL ADALA AL SHARIA” meaning how masails are exctracted based on the evidence of shariah. This thesis opposed the work of Ibn Khadamal Khazari.
He then moved on to work as assistant teacher in the Umm Ul Qura University in Mecca from where he also obtained his doctorate from the College of Sharia (grading excellent in 1416.
He was then appointed a lecturer in the College of Sharia at the Umm Ul Qura University, which is also his current position.
And Allah knows best!
By Abdullah on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 02:20 pm: Edit
Brother Abdurrahman - inshallah I will ask your questions when I meet Sheikh Shuraim.
Don't worry I won't be asking any stupid questions as they are Ulema and we have to show utmost respect to them - HOWEVER, I think that the comments made on here are light hearted humour and don't have any malice or disrespect in them (that is my personal opinion). I can understand some people may get offended but we are all adults and allhumdolillah muslims so lets show the utmost respect to each other as we all have faults and no one is perfect - may allah guide us all.
I hope you all found the Shaykh Sudais biography interesting. Just a simple request please remember me in your duaas.
Wassalam
Abdullah
By sudais_fan on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 04:25 pm: Edit
abdul rahman
regarding the cough. i didnt mean he should ask about his cough, i meant he should see if he has a cough. reason being i am 100% determined to send honey as a present one of these days. iwasnt being rude!!!!
also regarding tunes. from what i`ve seen and heard of different people, tunes come out naturally, like when ur praying u dont think of a certain tune, u just pray as a flow (does that make sense?) and so, maybe they have intention of praying one way, and it comes out another way, they cant backtrack it, know what i mean?
Abdullah, ur gonna have so many questions for him, hes gonna think ur crazy!!!!!
By ... on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 08:28 pm: Edit
salamz!
ALHAMDULLILAH im back in the UK and inshallah will be able to watch prayers!!
shuraim fan.. even i think shuraim is no1 lol... and after him.. i think salih al talib is really good...
By ... on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 02:19 am: Edit
abdullah..
the biography was pretty interesting...
and get the biography of shuraim as soon as possible plz..
sudais fan ...
i didnt mean he should ask about his cough, ''i meant he should see if he has a cough''
the bit in the speech marks... i thought was a bit funny.. wouldnt he already know him self hes got a cough? :P
w'salam
By shuraimfan on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 04:32 pm: Edit
salaams,
Thank you Abdullah for that website. I couldnt find sheikh Qasim on the list, maybe he dosent lead taraweeh?
By Servant of Allah on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 05:00 pm: Edit
Assalamu Alaikum...
Brother Abdullah, Please also ask Dr. Shaikh Shuraim if he teaches the Holy Qur'an to boys. I would really like to recite to him.
JazakAllah
Servant of Allah
By sudais_fan on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 02:18 am: Edit
abdullah, did i enjoy the biography?? im gonna have that printed out and make everyone i know read it (cos everyone knows i`m a bit sheikh mad anyways)
also, i`ve ordered the madinah islamic university books on arabic, hoping to study that so i get to know arabic.
regarding sheikh fowzan, has he got a ginger beard (dont worry im gonna explain why i ask, so that i dont hurt any feelings)
the reason why i ask is becasue recently after a couple of jummah they have like a talk session regarding islam and im 99% sure its sheikh fowzan, but i`ve missed the first part of his name both times, and theres more than one sheikh saleh al fowzan, so since u`ve seen him, can u please tell me.
anyways, when u make making the big visit????
... regarding the cough... its causing a bit of problems. i asked abdullah to chek and see if sheikh shuraim had a cough at the time of his meeting. Abdul Rahman, sed it was rude to ask if hehas a cough. i replied to abdul Rahman saying that i meant that abdullah should see if he has a cough, not ask.
By sudais_fan on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 02:22 am: Edit
forgive me if the answers realllly obvious, but who is ibn khadamal khazari??????
By Abdurrahman on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 10:13 am: Edit
As-salaamu 'alaykum
Tunes are an art and, even though it may seem that a recitor is flowing naturally, some effort has to be exerted to acquire a correct tune. How many times have you heard people recite with a dodgy tune?
Shaykh ash-Shuraym is an expert in tunes. One only needs to listen to all the different taraweehs he has recited in Makkah as well as when he was in Riyadh (as far as I know). His tunes are different each time and each year he adds a new type of tune to his collection. Some times (as I mentioned in my precious post) he changes his tune completely or purposely adds a new style (both for which I have proof).
Was-salaamu 'alaykum
Abdurrahman
By Abdurrahman on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 11:21 am: Edit
As-salaamu 'alaykum Abdullah,
The car bomb must have happened quite close to where you live. I hope everything's ok, Insha-Allah. Unfortunately, the ones involved - through lack of knowledge - are carrying out attacks on Muslims on Muslim lands. How can a Muslim even think that such an act could be justified Islamically (assuming it is Muslims behind them)?
May Allah grant the Muslim Ummah relief from its sufferings!
Was-salaamu 'alaykum
Abdurrahman
By sudais_fan on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 11:23 am: Edit
Abdul Rahman, i just believe that when u pray it so often, u dont concentrate so much on the tunes, u just pray nicely, know what i mean? but i think at first i misinterpreted u thinking u were talking only about a few different times, not a whole loada years!
also, wasnt it a coincidence that the us warned about terror attacks first?! i bet its rite tense there.
waiting for khutbah now, hope its sheikh saleh al talib. hant heard him for a while!
By sudais_fan on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 11:59 am: Edit
turned out to be sheikh sudais. he sounds well angry!!!!
By shuraimfan on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 06:48 pm: Edit
Salaams,
I remember someone giving out a link to shuraim's biography which was written in arabic. Could someone please give that link again, as i wanted to ask someone to translate it into english for me. Jazakhallah
By Abdullah on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 09:52 am: Edit
Assalamo-alaikum-wa-rahmtullah-hey-wbrkatu
Brother Abdurrahman thanks for your concern allhumdolillah I am fine and well - the bombing was at a compound near the Interior Ministry which is about 3 miles from our building. Anyway, death is certain and when your time comes you will go no matter where you are or who you are!!!! I just pray that when the time for death comes it is with full Iman and in Al Haramain Sharafain - ameen.
There is a lot of tension here in Saudi and there are various programmes and speeches throughout the Kingdom condemning the attacks especially by the scholars!
Glad you all enjoyed the Sudais biography as I said I am working on the Shuraim one and will have that soon - inshallah.
Sudais_Fan - I am not sure who Khadamal Khazri is I persume he is a scholar who Dr Sudais answered his thoughts/views via his thesis and based on his findings.
I did not see what Shiekh Fowzan looked like as he was too far so I can't really say next time I go I will find out inshallah and meet him!
I am planning on going to Mecca for Umrah in 2 weeks time - we are at present trying to arrange a meeting with Shiekh Shuraim but he is soooooooooooooooo busy - but inshallah will sort something out! I will also ask him about whether he prays in tune knowingly/with effort or it is just something that is natural!
I hope I have answered everyone's questions please forgive me if I have not as I did not have much time online!
Noraziah - don't worry I will also ask your questions inshallah!
Wassalam and please remember me in your duaas inshallah.
Abdullah
By norazizah on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 06:28 pm: Edit
Assalamualikum, everyone
Alhamdulillah Abdullah is safe.I will make doa for him. While waiting for Shuraim's biography from him,heres what little I know about Sheikh Dr. Saud Ash Shuraim.
Name: Saud bin Ibrahim bin Muhammad Ash Shuraim
Born : in Riyadh 1386H:A Saudi citizen of course.
Ancestor: from Qabilah Qhitan of Shaqra, Najad
1404: completed second school edu.(North Yarmuk )
1404-1409: successfully studied Usulluddin at Univ(Jameah Al Imam Muhammad bin Saud Al Islamiah in Riyadh.)
1412: Obtained Masters Degree and appointed
Imam and Khatib of Masjidilharam.
1413: appointed Kadhi at Mahkamah Kubra Makkah
1416: Got his Doctorate from Ummul Qura.Univ Makkah.His research:Al Masalik fi al Manasik. , Achieved Talaqi (direct learning)from many many renowned scholars eg. Shkh. Abd. Aziz bin Baaz(Rahimullah) former Mufti Am of the Kingdom,also the famous Shiekh Saleh Fauzan Al Fauzan...> Dr. Shuraim has many outstanding publications..( we will learn more about him from Abdullah soon Insha Allah..) May Allah give safety to the Imam and we all in the Fan club. Wassalam.
By ... on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 07:19 pm: Edit
assalamu alaikum
hey brother abdullah... can you get a biography on sheikh salih al talib aswell?
By sudais_fan on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 12:56 pm: Edit
...
u know, i`ve searched on the net for any info on sheikh saleh but cant seem to find any!!!
abdullah, if u dont find this too weird a question, what is the saudi equivalent to englands `haulage` company???? as in the transport trucks have which name written on it???
By Muslim Brother on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 04:19 pm: Edit
Abdullah, Can you kindly ask Sh. Shuraim what Madhab he follows? I know i've i heard people say he is Hambali but when i tell people they dont believe me and say that he and other imams of Haram are Salafis. So if it comes from his own mouth it would shut others up a little.
Jazakallah
By Ismaeel Syed AbdulHameed on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 05:43 am: Edit
Assalaam Alaikum wa Rahmatullah
Subhanalllah, all reciters of Quran are good. But the best I would prefer is Sheikh Saleh Al-Talib. You feel like crying while listening to his recitation. He has a beautiful voice. He led the last 10 days of Taraweeh this year.
Abdullah, i dont think any driving could beat indian driving, never been but from what i`ve heard, if u can drive in india, u could drive anywhere!!
U met sheikh Abdul Aziz al Shaikh? man, u r soooo lucky, u gonna meet sheikh fowzan aswell???
i heard riyadh is more stricter than in jeddah, but i guess in a way the stricter the better!!
u have to agree, some arabs are arrogant, but i guess in all cultures theres always the good the bad and the ugly! thats what people around me dont seem to understand. they all generalise arabs as bad, but they`ve stopped that around me now!!! met any royals yet?
u may not have noticed this, cos ur a man, but when i went there, i was disappointed to see a lot of men staring and following. that can be scary. in that sense england is not as bad!
anyway i wish u have a really nice time there. Dont be too bad. and when u meet sheikh shuraim please see if he has a cough.
a muslim brother. yeh u can get recitation from masjid e nabawi. just type in google what ur looking for.
By Abdullah on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 05:08 pm: Edit
Assalamo-alaikum-wa-rahmtullah-hey-wbrkatu
Sudais_Fan - forgot to mention that Shiekh Fowzan was there also on Thursday night - he had an answer/question session before Isha and then Mufti Al Sheikh did a speech after Isha!
I know what u mean when you say that the arabs are arrogant but I think from my experience that this is just a front and once u get to know them they are very hospitable and friendly! Like you said you get all sorts of people - at least arabs do it 2 ur face whereas the Brits they tend to be sweet 2 ur face and backbite instead!
As for the men staring at the women that is true and to be expected!!!!! BUT, I have also noticed that women are no better here in Riyadh (from personal experience) and they even pass comment!!!!!!!! ASTAGFIRULLAH may allah guide us -ameen
As for meeting Royals have not met anyone yet - although to be honest I could'nt careless if I did or didnt!!!
Abdullah - SAUDI CORRESPONDENT!!!!
By ... on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 12:22 am: Edit
salamz..
yh it it is annoyin downloadin the stuff from aswatalislam.net...
congrats bro abdullah! lol
also....ask shuraim wen he cummin down to england!
w'salam
By ... on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 01:07 pm: Edit
salams...
i have many arab friends... and people have said to me that they dont like arabs cos they dont like pakistanis.. :s...
i dont think that is true? :S
and abdullah.. you're right.. once you get to know them properly... they are very nice..
By shuraimfan on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 09:20 pm: Edit
salaam,
In my opinion shuraim is number one, but i also really like sheikh qasim of medinah. His recitation is amazing mashallah! anyone else like him? Ive looked on the net for his recitation, but all of them seem to be of when he was younger. Anyone know where u can get recent recitations of him?
By sudais_fan on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 12:59 pm: Edit
...
some arabs dont like pakistanis, and bangladeshis for that matter, aswell as indians. however that is because in arab countires they do all the low work.
however no matter how long a foriegner stays in saudi they will never get saudi nationality, which is not right.
shuraimfan, i have heard sheikh abdul muhsin, he prays nice from what i`ve heard, but i couldnt tell the difference between him younger, and now cos i dont listen to him much. sorrry
By Abdurrahman on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 04:23 pm: Edit
As-salaamu 'alaykum,
"ShuraimFan", this is definitely the latest if you want to listen to the latest Ramadhan (1424) recording in Masjid an-Nabawiyy: http://www.liveislam.com/archi/1424/ramadan.htm. By the way, 5 imaams recited there so you'll have to find the qiraa-ah of Shaykh Muhsin Abu Al-Qaasim yourself.
Abdullah, Alhamdulillah, you are in a better place than the rest of us. Keep us updated on when you meet the Shuyookh, especially ash-Shuraym. I trust you will not ask him about his (non-existent) cough (as one person suggests) because we all know that's rude. I have a couple of more relevant questions that you could ask the shaykh when you meet him, Insha-Allah:
o How does he come up with different tunes all the time? (Every year there's an addition to the collection and there was a complete change (inc. surat al-Faatihah) on the 30th night of Ramadhan 1419 (both in taraweeh and qiyaam al-layl - I have one rak'ah of the recording) - mention this particular tune as well if you get the chance!)
o Who are the Shuyookh from whom he derives inspiration in his qiraa-ah? (Obviously he has his uniqueness but in some parts of his tune he has some similarity to Shaykh al-Huzayfee and Shaykh Ali Jabir)
Jazaak Allah Khayraa and I hope everything's well there, Insha-Allah.
Was-salaamu 'alaykum
Abdurrahman
By norazizah on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 05:05 pm: Edit
Assalamulaikum Muslimbrother,
Hope some of your questions answered:
1.aswatalislam has the audio of Quran recitation of many recitors including one entitled "recitation from al masjid al nabawy."
2. Sheikh Ayoub has been at Masjid Nabawy for many many Ramadan and read the doa(This is true) until few years back. I was told he's incharge of Masjid Quba. Allah knows the truth. From my experience, Unlike Makkah,doa is recited by few distinct Imam of Masjid Nabawy interchangbly.
3.Voices of Imam changes with time ( like evrything else). Look at he dates on whatever CD or Cassete you buy to be sure. If theres no date they can mixed the years. So long Wassalam
By norazizah on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 07:29 am: Edit
Brother Abdullah...Assalamualaikum,
hope you and your family have adjusted to living and working in the new environment.(It takes time).May Allah takes care of you all. later,when you manage to visit Shuraim kindly ask these 3 questions for me. 1. What doa did he read during the long sujud in Solat Tahajud? Share with us (2).I have his arabic khutbah set published by Dar-Al-Wattan, my question now...any new publication since 1421 H ? Love to have it. and (3) please ask him to make doa that I too can be a successful writer (in my area)
Jazakallah khir brother Abdullah.
Salam from norazizah.
By Abdullah on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 02:08 pm: Edit
Assalamo-alaikum-wa-rahmtullah-hey-wbrkatu
Well here it is - I have managed to get some detailed information on Sheikh Sudais - (thanks to a little translational help from some Saudi Colleagues!!!!)
Enjoy - no doubt Sudais_Fan will be eager to read this so I will shut up and let you read! I am currently working on a similar thing for Sheikh Shuraim.
Abdullah
*****Biography of Dr Abdul Rehman Al Sudais*******
His lineage is ABU ABDUL AZIZ Ibn ABDUL AZIZ bin ABDULLAH, bin ABDUL AZIZ bin MUHAMMAD bin ABDULLAH and he is from the famous tribe of ANZA.
He was born in Riyadh in 1382 hijri and his father enrolled him to become hafiz in a mosque in Riyadh which was headed by Shiekh Abdul Rehman bin Abdullah Al Faryan. He was also taught the quran by Sheikh Muhammed Abdul Majid Zakir and also various others including Al Sheikh Muhammed Ali Hassan.
At the age of 12 he completed his hafiz studies.
Dr Sudais grew up in Riyadh and attended the Al Mathna Bin Hartha elementry school and also the Scientific Academy of Riyadh - he is one of the most famous students from there.
He graduated from the Scientific Academy in 1399 with a grading EXCELLENT and then went on to the Al Sharia College.
After this he became Imam and Khateeb of a mosque in Riyadh called Masjid Al Sheikh Al Allama Abdur Razzaq Al Afifi.
At the same time he started teaching in the Academy of Imam Al Dawa Al Almy in 1404 and which time he was also appointed the Imam and Khateeb of Masjidal Haram in Mecca Mukarrama.
He started his Imamat in Mecca on the 22/08/1404 leading the Asr salat, and his first Khutba to the people was on the 15/09/1404 which was in ramadhan.
In 1408 he got his masters (grading EXCELLENT) from the College of Sharia in the Islamic University of Imam Muhammed Bin Sauood. His thesis was titled “AL MASAIL AL ASOOLIYA AL MUTALIKA BIL ADALA AL SHARIA” meaning how masails are exctracted based on the evidence of shariah. This thesis opposed the work of Ibn Khadamal Khazari.
He then moved on to work as assistant teacher in the Umm Ul Qura University in Mecca from where he also obtained his doctorate from the College of Sharia (grading excellent in 1416.
He was then appointed a lecturer in the College of Sharia at the Umm Ul Qura University, which is also his current position.
And Allah knows best!
By Abdullah on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 02:20 pm: Edit
Brother Abdurrahman - inshallah I will ask your questions when I meet Sheikh Shuraim.
Don't worry I won't be asking any stupid questions as they are Ulema and we have to show utmost respect to them - HOWEVER, I think that the comments made on here are light hearted humour and don't have any malice or disrespect in them (that is my personal opinion). I can understand some people may get offended but we are all adults and allhumdolillah muslims so lets show the utmost respect to each other as we all have faults and no one is perfect - may allah guide us all.
I hope you all found the Shaykh Sudais biography interesting. Just a simple request please remember me in your duaas.
Wassalam
Abdullah
By sudais_fan on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 04:25 pm: Edit
abdul rahman
regarding the cough. i didnt mean he should ask about his cough, i meant he should see if he has a cough. reason being i am 100% determined to send honey as a present one of these days. iwasnt being rude!!!!
also regarding tunes. from what i`ve seen and heard of different people, tunes come out naturally, like when ur praying u dont think of a certain tune, u just pray as a flow (does that make sense?) and so, maybe they have intention of praying one way, and it comes out another way, they cant backtrack it, know what i mean?
Abdullah, ur gonna have so many questions for him, hes gonna think ur crazy!!!!!
By ... on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 08:28 pm: Edit
salamz!
ALHAMDULLILAH im back in the UK and inshallah will be able to watch prayers!!
shuraim fan.. even i think shuraim is no1 lol... and after him.. i think salih al talib is really good...
By ... on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 02:19 am: Edit
abdullah..
the biography was pretty interesting...
and get the biography of shuraim as soon as possible plz..
sudais fan ...
i didnt mean he should ask about his cough, ''i meant he should see if he has a cough''
the bit in the speech marks... i thought was a bit funny.. wouldnt he already know him self hes got a cough? :P
w'salam
By shuraimfan on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 04:32 pm: Edit
salaams,
Thank you Abdullah for that website. I couldnt find sheikh Qasim on the list, maybe he dosent lead taraweeh?
By Servant of Allah on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 05:00 pm: Edit
Assalamu Alaikum...
Brother Abdullah, Please also ask Dr. Shaikh Shuraim if he teaches the Holy Qur'an to boys. I would really like to recite to him.
JazakAllah
Servant of Allah
By sudais_fan on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 02:18 am: Edit
abdullah, did i enjoy the biography?? im gonna have that printed out and make everyone i know read it (cos everyone knows i`m a bit sheikh mad anyways)
also, i`ve ordered the madinah islamic university books on arabic, hoping to study that so i get to know arabic.
regarding sheikh fowzan, has he got a ginger beard (dont worry im gonna explain why i ask, so that i dont hurt any feelings)
the reason why i ask is becasue recently after a couple of jummah they have like a talk session regarding islam and im 99% sure its sheikh fowzan, but i`ve missed the first part of his name both times, and theres more than one sheikh saleh al fowzan, so since u`ve seen him, can u please tell me.
anyways, when u make making the big visit????
... regarding the cough... its causing a bit of problems. i asked abdullah to chek and see if sheikh shuraim had a cough at the time of his meeting. Abdul Rahman, sed it was rude to ask if hehas a cough. i replied to abdul Rahman saying that i meant that abdullah should see if he has a cough, not ask.
By sudais_fan on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 02:22 am: Edit
forgive me if the answers realllly obvious, but who is ibn khadamal khazari??????
By Abdurrahman on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 10:13 am: Edit
As-salaamu 'alaykum
Tunes are an art and, even though it may seem that a recitor is flowing naturally, some effort has to be exerted to acquire a correct tune. How many times have you heard people recite with a dodgy tune?
Shaykh ash-Shuraym is an expert in tunes. One only needs to listen to all the different taraweehs he has recited in Makkah as well as when he was in Riyadh (as far as I know). His tunes are different each time and each year he adds a new type of tune to his collection. Some times (as I mentioned in my precious post) he changes his tune completely or purposely adds a new style (both for which I have proof).
Was-salaamu 'alaykum
Abdurrahman
By Abdurrahman on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 11:21 am: Edit
As-salaamu 'alaykum Abdullah,
The car bomb must have happened quite close to where you live. I hope everything's ok, Insha-Allah. Unfortunately, the ones involved - through lack of knowledge - are carrying out attacks on Muslims on Muslim lands. How can a Muslim even think that such an act could be justified Islamically (assuming it is Muslims behind them)?
May Allah grant the Muslim Ummah relief from its sufferings!
Was-salaamu 'alaykum
Abdurrahman
By sudais_fan on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 11:23 am: Edit
Abdul Rahman, i just believe that when u pray it so often, u dont concentrate so much on the tunes, u just pray nicely, know what i mean? but i think at first i misinterpreted u thinking u were talking only about a few different times, not a whole loada years!
also, wasnt it a coincidence that the us warned about terror attacks first?! i bet its rite tense there.
waiting for khutbah now, hope its sheikh saleh al talib. hant heard him for a while!
By sudais_fan on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 11:59 am: Edit
turned out to be sheikh sudais. he sounds well angry!!!!
By shuraimfan on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 06:48 pm: Edit
Salaams,
I remember someone giving out a link to shuraim's biography which was written in arabic. Could someone please give that link again, as i wanted to ask someone to translate it into english for me. Jazakhallah
By Abdullah on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 09:52 am: Edit
Assalamo-alaikum-wa-rahmtullah-hey-wbrkatu
Brother Abdurrahman thanks for your concern allhumdolillah I am fine and well - the bombing was at a compound near the Interior Ministry which is about 3 miles from our building. Anyway, death is certain and when your time comes you will go no matter where you are or who you are!!!! I just pray that when the time for death comes it is with full Iman and in Al Haramain Sharafain - ameen.
There is a lot of tension here in Saudi and there are various programmes and speeches throughout the Kingdom condemning the attacks especially by the scholars!
Glad you all enjoyed the Sudais biography as I said I am working on the Shuraim one and will have that soon - inshallah.
Sudais_Fan - I am not sure who Khadamal Khazri is I persume he is a scholar who Dr Sudais answered his thoughts/views via his thesis and based on his findings.
I did not see what Shiekh Fowzan looked like as he was too far so I can't really say next time I go I will find out inshallah and meet him!
I am planning on going to Mecca for Umrah in 2 weeks time - we are at present trying to arrange a meeting with Shiekh Shuraim but he is soooooooooooooooo busy - but inshallah will sort something out! I will also ask him about whether he prays in tune knowingly/with effort or it is just something that is natural!
I hope I have answered everyone's questions please forgive me if I have not as I did not have much time online!
Noraziah - don't worry I will also ask your questions inshallah!
Wassalam and please remember me in your duaas inshallah.
Abdullah
By norazizah on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 06:28 pm: Edit
Assalamualikum, everyone
Alhamdulillah Abdullah is safe.I will make doa for him. While waiting for Shuraim's biography from him,heres what little I know about Sheikh Dr. Saud Ash Shuraim.
Name: Saud bin Ibrahim bin Muhammad Ash Shuraim
Born : in Riyadh 1386H:A Saudi citizen of course.
Ancestor: from Qabilah Qhitan of Shaqra, Najad
1404: completed second school edu.(North Yarmuk )
1404-1409: successfully studied Usulluddin at Univ(Jameah Al Imam Muhammad bin Saud Al Islamiah in Riyadh.)
1412: Obtained Masters Degree and appointed
Imam and Khatib of Masjidilharam.
1413: appointed Kadhi at Mahkamah Kubra Makkah
1416: Got his Doctorate from Ummul Qura.Univ Makkah.His research:Al Masalik fi al Manasik. , Achieved Talaqi (direct learning)from many many renowned scholars eg. Shkh. Abd. Aziz bin Baaz(Rahimullah) former Mufti Am of the Kingdom,also the famous Shiekh Saleh Fauzan Al Fauzan...> Dr. Shuraim has many outstanding publications..( we will learn more about him from Abdullah soon Insha Allah..) May Allah give safety to the Imam and we all in the Fan club. Wassalam.
By ... on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 07:19 pm: Edit
assalamu alaikum
hey brother abdullah... can you get a biography on sheikh salih al talib aswell?
By sudais_fan on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 12:56 pm: Edit
...
u know, i`ve searched on the net for any info on sheikh saleh but cant seem to find any!!!
abdullah, if u dont find this too weird a question, what is the saudi equivalent to englands `haulage` company???? as in the transport trucks have which name written on it???
By Muslim Brother on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 04:19 pm: Edit
Abdullah, Can you kindly ask Sh. Shuraim what Madhab he follows? I know i've i heard people say he is Hambali but when i tell people they dont believe me and say that he and other imams of Haram are Salafis. So if it comes from his own mouth it would shut others up a little.
Jazakallah
By Ismaeel Syed AbdulHameed on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 05:43 am: Edit
Assalaam Alaikum wa Rahmatullah
Subhanalllah, all reciters of Quran are good. But the best I would prefer is Sheikh Saleh Al-Talib. You feel like crying while listening to his recitation. He has a beautiful voice. He led the last 10 days of Taraweeh this year.