New and important arabic book with Audio Sharh about "Aslu din, Udhr bil Jahl,.."
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New and important arabic book with Audio Sharh about "Aslu din, Udhr bil Jahl,.." Assalamu alaikum
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Re: New and important arabic book with Audio Sharh about "Aslu din, Udhr bil Jahl,.." Why exactly is this so important?
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"One of the greatest distinctions of the Salaf was indicated by ibn al-Haaj when he said words to the effect, 'In the days of the Salaf, when the masses would introduce an innovation, the scholars would take it upon themselves to expose its falsehood. As for the scholars of the Khalaf, you will find that when someone from the masses, the rulers, or the wealthy introduce an innovation, the scholars would take it upon themselves to encourage it, defend it and justify it.'
I say: he spoke most truthfully. If any of our rulers or wealthy people would like, then let him try to introduce some innovation, and then seek help from the scholars and the ascetics. He will find them rushing as fast as they can to encourage it and to distort the Book and Sunnah in order to beautify it, and to declare any who would rebut it a heretic or disbeliever, and perhaps the most pious of them is the one who takes it upon himself to remain silent. Truly, to Allah we belong and to Him we will return!" [Sh. Abd al-Rahman b. Yahya al-Mu'allimi, Kitab al-Ibadah (pp. 210-211)]
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Re: New and important arabic book with Audio Sharh about "Aslu din, Udhr bil Jahl,.." I want to point out (with my bad english) why this Mas`ala is so important
Because of the separation between Tawheed and Shirk, between Muslimin and Mushrikeen.
This clear separation has been lost for many people and there are some argumentative gateways or shubuhat to destroy this basic islamic seperation
Many people think today, this shubuhat allows them to mix Tauheed and Shirk, Haqq with Batil
For example: to get the clear mushrikin or tawgheet into islam,..., even when they accept that they do shirk akbar.
For example: They say, Yes he does shirk akbar, but because of his Jahl he is still a muslim till the huja reached him.
I think this is one of the catastrophic desasters in our times. Not knowing where are the frontiers between a Muslim and a Mushrik.
If you understand arabic then you can study the book with his audio explanation.
I think and hope then you will understand better inshallahLast edited by AbuIman_alMaghrabi; 2nd August 2012 at 12:35 AM.
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Re: New and important arabic book with Audio Sharh about "Aslu din, Udhr bil Jahl,.." I see. So if we disagree with the author, can we still be Muslims?
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"One of the greatest distinctions of the Salaf was indicated by ibn al-Haaj when he said words to the effect, 'In the days of the Salaf, when the masses would introduce an innovation, the scholars would take it upon themselves to expose its falsehood. As for the scholars of the Khalaf, you will find that when someone from the masses, the rulers, or the wealthy introduce an innovation, the scholars would take it upon themselves to encourage it, defend it and justify it.'
I say: he spoke most truthfully. If any of our rulers or wealthy people would like, then let him try to introduce some innovation, and then seek help from the scholars and the ascetics. He will find them rushing as fast as they can to encourage it and to distort the Book and Sunnah in order to beautify it, and to declare any who would rebut it a heretic or disbeliever, and perhaps the most pious of them is the one who takes it upon himself to remain silent. Truly, to Allah we belong and to Him we will return!" [Sh. Abd al-Rahman b. Yahya al-Mu'allimi, Kitab al-Ibadah (pp. 210-211)]
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Re: New and important arabic book with Audio Sharh about "Aslu din, Udhr bil Jahl,.." I think that is another Mas`ala.
Is the baraa from the mushrikin a part of Aslu Din?
Or, can someone build up his Islam without the baraa from the mushrikin?
You must search and answer such questions for yourself.
It`s your din and responsibility.
But this Mas`ala is not the subject in this book and i think the author didn`t write anything about this Mas`ala yet.
If you disagree with the explaining or conclusions of the author, it would be nice to explain exactly why?
It would help me, maybe the author, and everybody else to understand the religion better, no matter if you wrong or right... everything could be a help.Last edited by AbuIman_alMaghrabi; 2nd August 2012 at 12:50 AM.
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Re: New and important arabic book with Audio Sharh about "Aslu din, Udhr bil Jahl,.." Assalamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullah,
the guy who wrote the book is Abu Hamzah al-Afghani and this guy has a book in German language with the name "Eine ruhige Kritik an den kaempfenden Gruppen". In that book he makes Takfir upon all Mujahidin of today: Shaykh 'Abdullah 'Azzam (rahimahullah), Amir Khattab (rahimahullah), the Taliban and all other Mujahidin (whom he calls as "kaempfende Gruppen"/the fighting groups).
His older brother (i.e. Abul Khattab) was also one from the Ghulat at-Takfir and then apostisized and became a Rafidhi, but it seems that Abu Hamzah has not learned from that incident.
May Allah ta'ala protect us from such people.Last edited by Abu Sulayman; 2nd August 2012 at 02:09 AM.
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Re: New and important arabic book with Audio Sharh about "Aslu din, Udhr bil Jahl,.."
Now, You have to prove your assertion, or you're a liar by the methodes of ahlul sunnah wal djamma3.
He didn`t wrote a single takfir in his book.
He made a "quiet criticism" (that means "Eine ruhige Kritik").
About what? About the same issue "udhr bil Jahl", and i think long before you even knew the existence of this subject in germany.
For blind followers of holy mens maybe a quiet criticism about a few people means for them a takfir against the whole planet,
but the truth is: Nowhere in his book he made one single takfir against anybody.
He only points out (that was the quiet criticism) that some people on the djihadi Manhaj have the same opinion like many other groups,
namely that a clear mushrik can be a muslim for them, because of their Jahl, thats all.
Is this a right Opinon for you Abu Sulayman ? Is this your djihad for the truth? Is this your islamic righteousness for Allah (t)?
So either Abu Sulayman you can not read exactly, or you are a liar who can not stop lying even during ramadan, Allahu Mustaan
May Allah ta'ala protect us from such ignorant people and false dirty methodsLast edited by AbuIman_alMaghrabi; 2nd August 2012 at 02:13 AM.
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Re: New and important arabic book with Audio Sharh about "Aslu din, Udhr bil Jahl,.." Okay, let's say I and almost everyone who has heard about him has misunderstood him.
I've a very simple question: Do you regard the Taliban as muslims? Yes or no?
And I gave a salam, but you didn't respond to that. Why? Am I not a muslim for you?
Was someone like Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymin (rahimahullah) a muslim?
Was Shaykh 'Abdullah 'Azzam (rahimahullah) a muslim?Last edited by Abu Sulayman; 2nd August 2012 at 02:51 AM.
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Re: New and important arabic book with Audio Sharh about "Aslu din, Udhr bil Jahl,.." On what grounds can the Taliban be Kuffar? Do they believe in shirk or something ? Defending their territory can never be kufr akbar.
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