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You're NOT Salafi, Sufi, or Khariji - you're a Sunni Muslim

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    Default You're NOT Salafi, Sufi, or Khariji - you're a Sunni Muslim

    asalaamu alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakaatuh



    You're a Sunni Muslim who tries to follow the way of the Salaf (earliest generation of Muslims) in the best way possible. You can ask any trustworthy 'Aalim a question and follow what he says. Once you become a student of knowledge, you need to study under 1 madhab, then master it until you become a master of that madhab, then you can study another madhab if you want to etc.

    You are not arrogant, and you hope to be sincere to Allah and to cling onto Him, hoping for Him and His reward and fearing His punishment and a bad ending..

    You are a slave of Allah, respecting His Messenger in the best of ways, and never making fun of the Messenger, nor any of the scholars in our past or present history.

    You do not say anything evil about anyone unless you are forbidding an evil, and then you forbid it in the nicest of ways.


    You are a slave of Allah, so seek closeness to Him.. that is your main aim in life, so make du'a to Him always - short term (i.e. Allah plz make my day happy) and long term duas (Allah give me a beautiful return to you). That way you know your duas are being answered. Then you will be happy with Allah, and He will be happy with you.



    If you agree with this, then pass it onto other Muslims you know. It's about time the ummah united in something beneficial after all these years of worthless debates.

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    i dont even call myself a sunni muslim


    Just Muslim

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbuMubarak View Post
    i dont even call myself a sunni muslim


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    asalaamu alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuh

    There is a war between the people of Sunnah (Sunnis) and Shi'ah (an ideology which opposes the Sunnah and is committing war crimes on Syrian Sunnis and Sunnis of other lands). So this differentiation needs to be made clear.

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    Teach people beneficial ilm and they will understand this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mu'awiya View Post
    asalaamu alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuh

    There is a war between the people of Sunnah (Sunnis) and Shi'ah (an ideology which opposes the Sunnah and is committing war crimes on Syrian Sunnis and Sunnis of other lands). So this differentiation needs to be made clear.
    I agree with you brother Mu'awiya, I came from a war torn country, and i saw and lived the war on Sunnis by the Shiites, where a name given to you by your parents, such as Omar, 'Uthman or Mu'awiya can get you killed.

    Baraka Allah bika akhi for this post, can i use it on my FB?
    He who kneels before God, can stand before anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbuMubarak View Post
    i dont even call myself a sunni muslim


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    I suppose this is ok if we consider the Rafidha as a group to be kuffar (not talking about Zaydis here). Otherwise, if we describe ourselves as Sunni Muslim, it implies there is such a thing as "Shiah" Muslims and this does not sit comfortably with me. Unless an individual shi'ee comes out and makes explicit baraa from shirk and the cursing of our mothers, I will assume him to be kaafir, same way as I will assume a born and bred Qadiyani to be kaafir unless he comes and makes baraa from Qadiyani falsehood.

    Also the situation determines whether we mention Shia/Sunni at all or not. I remember having a conversation on a train with a non-Muslim who seemed pretty ignorant. So when he casually mentioned Shia vs Sunni, I sidestepped it because I wanted to focus on making da'wah and not get bogged down about groups and sects.

    But on the other hand, if some kaafir has been put off Islam because he/she saw pictures of Ahsoora "festivities" from Iraq, then it becomes necessary to draw a line between them and us, or else the kaafir continues to think that self flagellation is an acceptable part of Islam.

    All comes down to subtlety in the end, because when making da'wah, we really don't want the kaafir to think Islam is a minefield with many different sects and it will be impossible to know which is right, so why bother? We really need to get across the message that it is not like that! The beliefs of Islaam are pure and simple and every deviant group has only ever complicated the belief system.

    Another argument that may be useful if an 'educated' kaafir questions the existence of sects of Islaam, is to make the point that the existence of offshoots is inevitable and is not a problem with Islaam itself. Rather, humanity has always corrupted the universal message of God, so in fact Christianity and Judaism are also deviant offshoots, because all Prophets came with the same message and subsequent generations changed it to form different religions. Yet the original message has been preserved in the Quran for eternity, so humanity will now always have something to return to and God has not left us wandering in a forest of deviant offshoots.

    Jazakallah khayr bro Mu'awiya for creating this thread.

    Da'wah is such a challenge. May Allaah guide and help us all.

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    Default Re: You're NOT Salafi, Sufi, or Khariji - you're a Sunni Muslim

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    I agree with you brother Mu'awiya, I came from a war torn country, and i saw and lived the war on Sunnis by the Shiites, where a name given to you by your parents, such as Omar, 'Uthman or Mu'awiya can get you killed.

    Baraka Allah bika akhi for this post, can i use it on my FB?

    asalaamu alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh


    please do.. as much as you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mu'awiya View Post
    asalaamu alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuh

    There is a war between the people of Sunnah (Sunnis) and Shi'ah (an ideology which opposes the Sunnah and is committing war crimes on Syrian Sunnis and Sunnis of other lands). So this differentiation needs to be made clear.
    i have heard this argument for years

    but i am sufficed with the name that Allah has given us, and what others do does not negate the name that Allah has given us

    this is the exact reason why there are salafi muslims today, because of letting other people's problems become the problems of the ummah

    there is one islam, hence, there is one muslim

    if there are deviations amongst muslims, that does not change islam, and by adding names, you give credibility to their position

    you are either muslim or you are not, if shia are muslim, then thats what they are, if they are not muslim, then they are not, i am not changing my name because of the issues of others

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    Default Re: You're NOT Salafi, Sufi, or Khariji - you're a Sunni Muslim

    Ibn Abbass said is reported to said in his tafseer of "Some faces that day will be bright" and make difference between Ahlu Sunnah and Ahlul Bid'ah

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