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    What is the full and correct salah of salahtu Isha?

    is it



    4 sunnah
    4 fard
    2 sunnah
    2 nafl
    3 witir
    2 nafl


    ?

    is this according to the sunahh? pls can you be kind enough to include detail and supporting evidence,

    thank you all -jazakullah khair


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    "Allaah will build a house in Heaven for whoever is diligent in observing 12 Sunnah Rak'aat (as follows): 4 Rak'aat before and 2 after the Dhuhr (Midday) Prayer, 2 after the Maghrib (Sunset Prayer), 2 after the Ishaa (Evening) Prayer and 2 before the Fajr (Dawn) Prayer." Hadith sahih narrated by at-Tirmidhi No. 379 and by others. Hadith No. 6183 in Sahih al-Jaami

    Islam Question and Answer - Al Sunnan Al Rawatib (Sunnah Prayers associated with Fardh Prayers)

    Witr is generally the last prayer of the night and it can be any odd number of raka'ah. "It was narrated that Abd-Allaah ibn Umar said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: Make the last of your prayer at night Witr. Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 998; Muslim, 749."

    You can pray any number of prayers before witr, but they are not counted as a part of Isha. Rather they are a part of the voluntary night prayers, as is witr.

    "With regard to differentiation made in the Sunnah, according to the hadeeth of Ibn Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him), a man asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): How are the night prayers done? He said: Two by two, then when you fear that dawn is about to break, pray Witr with one rakah. Narrated by al-Bukhaari. See al-Fath, 3/20. "

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    jzakullah, but are these not part of the isha salah then???? pls comment, thanks

    4 sunnah
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    2 nafl
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    According to the links I posted with the hadeeth, we are to read 4 fardh for 'Isha and then it is recommended to pray 2 sunnah.

    After that, we can pray any amount (even number) throughout the night. Once we're finished with them, we end it with witr (odd number). Unless I'm mistaken, these are not part of the 'Isha salah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by La Ta7zanoo View Post
    According to the links I posted with the hadeeth, we are to read 4 fardh for 'Isha and then it is recommended to pray 2 sunnah.

    After that, we can pray any amount (even number) throughout the night. Once we're finished with them, we end it with witr (odd number). Unless I'm mistaken, these are not part of the 'Isha salah.
    so your saying 4fard, 2 sunnah and 3 witir are part of isha salah and nothing else? where have the others (now marked no) come from then?

    and the 2 nafl after the witir salah, could these be from the sunnah? prophet Muhammed pbuh used to pray 2 nafl before he went to sleep, is this a daif hadith then or something else and not part of isha salah?
    sorry for the qestions, trying to understand

    4 sunnah - no
    4 fard - yes
    2 sunnah - yes
    2 nafl - no
    3 witir - yes
    2 nafl
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    I remember reading once about 2 rak'ahs after witr.. does anyone have a reference?

    Also, if you are in a mosque then there would be at least 2 rak'ahs (tahiyyatul masjid) before the 4 fardh...
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    also you can read the two nawafil rakats between the adhaan and iqaamah.
    Abdullah bin Mughafal Al-Muzani narrated that the Prophet (saw) said thrice: "There is a salah between the two Adhans (adhan and Iqaamah), there is a Salah between the two Adhans." And then while saying it the third time he (saw) added, "For the one who wants to." Bukhairi Hadith no.627

    regarding the two rakats after witr, I found this:
    "hadeeth of Aaishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) who was asked about the Witr of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). She said: We used to prepare his siwaak (tooth stick) and water for wudoo for him, then Allaah would cause him to wake up at any time He willed at night. He would use the tooth stick, do wudoo and pray nine rakahs, in which he would not sit except in the eighth, when he would remember Allaah, glorify Him and make duaa. Then he would get up without saying salaam, and pray the ninth rakah. Then he would sit down and again remember Allaah, glorify Him and make duaa. Then he would say a salaam that we could hear, then he would pray two rakahs after that, whilst sitting down. Narrated by Muslim; this is part of a lengthy hadeeth, which is to be understood as meaning that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) prayed two rakahs after Witr to show that it is permissible to pray after Witr. "
    Source: (Islam Question and Answer - Is it permissible to pray naafil after Witr?)
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    4 sunnah before Isha' is a common Hanafi view, and that is also what I learned growing up. However, it is based on Qiyas with Zuhr and Asr. HH has mentioned some time back that this is a batil opinion, originating from some Mu'tazili Hanafis and not from any of the Imams of the madhhab.

    Anyhow, I think he would be best qualified to comment on the rest.
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    is their anyone else who could comment at all? I have sent several hours checking around, but nothing concreate.....except the 4 fardh salah for isha followed by 2 sunnah and 3 witr.
    but what about the rest??

    4 sunnah
    4 fard
    2 sunnah
    2 nafl
    3 witir
    2 nafl

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    bump.

    is their anyone else who could comment at all? I have sent several hours checking around, but nothing concreate.....except the 4 fardh salah for isha followed by 2 sunnah and 3 witr.
    but what about the rest??

    4 sunnah
    4 fard
    2 sunnah
    2 nafl
    3 witir
    2 nafl

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