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Ibn Taymiyyah: To the cheerleaders of "Jihaad is Fitnah"..........

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    Default Ibn Taymiyyah: To the cheerleaders of "Jihaad is Fitnah"..........

    فمن ترك القتال الذي أمر الله به لئلا تكون فتنة: فهو في الفتنة ساقط بما وقع فيه من ريب قلبه ومرض فؤاده وتركه ما أمر الله به من الجهاد

    Majmoo' Al-Fatawaa Volume 28 page 167
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    i am ANTI-ISIS!
    - now can we please stop whining?

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    إذا كـنـت بالله مستعـصـــما - For if upon Allah you do rely
    فمــــاذا يضيرك كيـد العبيـد -
    The intrigues of his slaves can bring no pains.

    Syed Qutb (May Allaah accept him)

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    Default Re: Ibn Taymiyyah: To the cheerleaders of "Jihaad is Fitnah"..........

    "Those who abandon fighting that has been ordered by Allah (calling it a fitnah)?: something something something...their heart has sickness from doubt? And they abandon jihad?

    Can you translate it akhi?
    Hasan al-Basri said when he came across a group of people disputing:

    “These ones have become tired of worship, speaking has become easy for them, and their piety has diminished, and that is why they talk.”- Hasan al Basri

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    Default Re: Ibn Taymiyyah: To the cheerleaders of "Jihaad is Fitnah"..........

    {ومنهم من يقول ائذن لي ولا تفتني ألا في الفتنة سقطوا}

    وقد ذكر في التفسير أنها نزلت في {الجد بن قيس لما أمره النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم بالتجهز لغزو الروم - وأظنه قال: هل لك في نساء بني الأصفر؟ - فقال يا رسول الله: إني رجل لا أصبر عن النساء؛ وإني أخاف الفتنة بنساء بني الأصفر. فائذن لي ولا تفتني} . وهذا الجد هو الذي تخلف عن بيعة الرضوان تحت الشجرة؛ واستتر بجمل أحمر؛ وجاء فيه الحديث: {أن كلهم مغفور له إلا صاحب الجمل الأحمر فأنزل الله تعالى فيه: {ومنهم من يقول ائذن لي ولا تفتني ألا في الفتنة سقطوا} } . يقول: إنه طلب القعود ليسلم من فتنة النساء فلا يفتتن بهن فيحتاج إلى الاحتراز من المحظور ومجاهدة نفسه عنه فيتعذب بذلك أو يواقعه فيأثم؛ فإن من رأى الصور الجميلة وأحبها فإن لم يتمكن منها إما لتحريم الشارع وإما للعجز عنها يعذب قلبه وإن قدر عليها وفعل المحظور هلك. وفي الحلال من ذلك من معالجة النساء ما فيه بلاء. فهذا وجه قوله: {ولا تفتني} قال الله تعالى: {ألا في الفتنة سقطوا} يقول نفس إعراضه عن الجهاد الواجب ونكوله عنه وضعف إيمانه ومرض قلبه الذي زين له ترك الجهاد: فتنة عظيمة قد سقط فيها

    Also Majmoo' Al-Fatawaa volume 28 page 166



    Last edited by Aboo Shayba; 11th September 2011 at 01:54 AM.
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    Since particular members on this forum have lost their sense of being just to all regardless of affiliation, and believe that for some there is no justice, and if you do give justice to those who deserve no justice then you yourself are counted as being one who sides with them, defends them, shows sympathy to them. I therefore, must clarify and make clear that
    i am ANTI-ISIS!
    - now can we please stop whining?

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    إذا كـنـت بالله مستعـصـــما - For if upon Allah you do rely
    فمــــاذا يضيرك كيـد العبيـد -
    The intrigues of his slaves can bring no pains.

    Syed Qutb (May Allaah accept him)

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    Default Re: Ibn Taymiyyah: To the cheerleaders of "Jihaad is Fitnah"..........

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdur Rahman100 View Post
    "Those who abandon fighting that has been ordered by Allah (calling it a fitnah)?: something something something...their heart has sickness from doubt? And they abandon jihad?

    Can you translate it akhi?
    Poor attempt for lack of volunteers:

    "As for him who abandons the fighting, which Allah has commanded so that there would be no fitnah, then he is falling into a fitnah due to that which is in him from doubt and sickness in his heart, and his leaving the jihad which Allah had commanded him to do. "
    أَوَمَن كَانَ مَيْتًا فَأَحْيَيْنَاهُ وَجَعَلْنَا لَهُ نُورًا يَمْشِي بِهِ فِي النَّاسِ كَمَن مَّثَلُهُ فِي الظُّلُمَاتِ لَيْسَ بِخَارِجٍ مِّنْهَا كَذَٰلِكَ زُيِّنَ لِلْكَافِرِينَ مَا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ


    {“And is one who was dead and We gave him life and made for him light by which to walk among the people like one who is in darkness, never to emerge therefrom? Thus it has been made pleasing to the disbelievers that which they were doing.’”}

    Al-An'aam 122

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    Default Re: Ibn Taymiyyah: To the cheerleaders of "Jihaad is Fitnah"..........

    I doubt that those who believe jihad is fitna care what ibn taymiyya has to say...

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    Default Re: Ibn Taymiyyah: To the cheerleaders of "Jihaad is Fitnah"..........

    Came across this today - interesting - not really related:

    كما سئل الإمام أحمد: عن الرجلين يكونان أميرين في الغزو، وأحدهما قوي فاجر والآخر صالح ضعيف، مع أيهما يغزى؛ فقال: أما الفاجر القوي، فقوته للمسلمين، وفجوره على نفسه؛ وأما الصالح الضعيف فصلاحه لنفسه وضعفه على المسلمين. فيغزي مع القوي الفاجر.
    Al-Siyaasah Al-Shar'eeyah by Ibn Taymiyyah page 15
    DISCLAIMER:

    Since particular members on this forum have lost their sense of being just to all regardless of affiliation, and believe that for some there is no justice, and if you do give justice to those who deserve no justice then you yourself are counted as being one who sides with them, defends them, shows sympathy to them. I therefore, must clarify and make clear that
    i am ANTI-ISIS!
    - now can we please stop whining?

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    إذا كـنـت بالله مستعـصـــما - For if upon Allah you do rely
    فمــــاذا يضيرك كيـد العبيـد -
    The intrigues of his slaves can bring no pains.

    Syed Qutb (May Allaah accept him)

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    Default Re: Ibn Taymiyyah: To the cheerleaders of "Jihaad is Fitnah"..........

    Quote Originally Posted by Aboo Shayba View Post
    Came across this today - interesting - not really related:




    Al-Siyaasah Al-Shar'eeyah by Ibn Taymiyyah page 15
    SubhanAllah look at the fiqh of the Imam rahimahullah
    Baarak Allahu feek for the quotes

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