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    Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullah

    Is it permissible to travel abroad to visit a relative's grave??

    I searched the forums and IslamQA for a specific answer related to visiting one's father's grave but to no avail.
    Does anybody know a classical opinion for this issue?

    JazaakAllahu Khairan
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    low sama7tum!!!!
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    Wa `Alaykum as Salam wa Rahmatullah,

    Why would it be prohibited?

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    Because travelling for the soul purpose of visiting the Prophet's SAW grave is impermissible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trn2allah View Post
    Because travelling for the soul purpose of visiting the Prophet's SAW grave is impermissible.
    I think you meant

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    Because travelling for the soul purpose of visiting a grave other than the Prophet's SAW grave is impermissible.
    I don't want to say incase I am wrong. I'll wait for someone more knowledgeable to comment.

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    No i meant travelling with the intention to visit the Prophet's SAW grave is impermissible.

    http://islamqa.info/en/ref/10011
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    Quote Originally Posted by trn2allah View Post
    Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullah

    Is it permissible to travel abroad to visit a relative's grave??

    I searched the forums and IslamQA for a specific answer related to visiting one's father's grave but to no avail.
    Does anybody know a classical opinion for this issue?

    JazaakAllahu Khairan
    Wa Aleikum Salaam.

    Insha'Allah this fatwa will be helpful:

    It is not permissible to travel with the intention of visiting the grave of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or the grave of any other person, according to the more correct of the two scholarly opinions, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

    No one should travel for the purpose of visiting (any mosque) except three: al-Masjid al-Haraam (in Makkah), this mosque of mine (in Madeenah) and al-Masjid al-Aqsaa (in al-Quds/Jerusalem). (Agreed upon).

    It is prescribed for the one who wants to visit the grave of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and who lives far from Madeenah to have the intention of travelling to visit al-Masjid al-Nabawi; that will include by implication visiting the grave of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), the graves of Abu Bakr and Umar, and the graves of the martyrs and people of al-Baqee.

    If he has the intention of visiting both (the mosque and the grave), this is permissible, because things may be permissible as part of something else which are not permissible on their own. But having the intention only to visit the grave and travelling for that purpose is not permissible. Intending to visit the grave only is not permissible if it involves travelling. But if a person lives close by and does not need to travel, and his going to the grave is not regarded as travel or a journey, then it is OK, because visiting the grave of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and the graves of his two companions without having to travel is Sunnah and is an act of worship. The same applies to visiting the graves of the martyrs and of the people of al-Baqee. Similarly, visiting the graves of Muslims in all places is Sunnah and is an act of worship, but without travelling for that purpose, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: Visit graves, for they will remind you of the Hereafter. (Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh).

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to teach his Sahaabah, when they visited graves, to say, Al-salaamu alaykum ahl al-diyaar min al-mumineen wal-Muslimeen, wa innaa in shaa Allaah bikum laahiqoon, nasal Allaaha lana wa lakum al-aafiyah (Peace be upon you, O believing and Muslim dwellers of this place. We will join you soon, if Allaah wills. We ask Allaah to keep us and you safe). (Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh).

    So according to Bin Baz, you're not allowed to travel for the sake of visiting anyone's grave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trn2allah View Post
    No i meant travelling with the intention to visit the Prophet's SAW grave is impermissible.

    http://islamqa.info/en/ref/10011
    Nope, only few scholars have said that it is not permissible. The rest of the ummah has allowed it, so do not be so strict in issues like this. If you wish to visit a grave, so follow the opinion of the great majority of the ummah.

    Those few scholars who prohibited traveling to visit graves are: Abul-Wafa Ibn Aqil, Ibn Battah al-'Ukbari, Abu Muhammad al-Juwayni, Taqiyyud-Din Ibn Taimiyya and also al-Qadi 'Iyad inclined towards this opinion. And some hanbali scholars were influenced by Ibn Taimiyyah.

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    JazaakAllahu Khairan for pointing that out but the prohibition you highlighted isn't supported by any of the statements mentioned.
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    Ibn Baz, rahimahu Allah, said that travelling to another country (shad al-rahel) for the sole purpose of visiting a grave is unacceptable. However, if someone has travelled to another country for other purposes such as visitng a family member, a friend, for business, or other reasons, and while in the country, he wants to visit the grave to remind himself of the hereafter, pray for the Muslims, etc. than it is recommended.

    Having that said, it is shirk to ask upon the dead, slaughter in their name, ask for their intercession, or make istigatha to them. All forms of worship with the dead is impermissible and leads to shirk with Allah. For that reason, one has to be careful not to tread those lines. Some tend to make great effort to visit the grave of their relatives just to read Qur'an there, give charity there, or make du'aa there. This is all unacceptable.

    The benefit of visiting the grave, and why it is recommended, is so that we can make du'aa of entering the grave, giving salam to them, praying janazah, and remembering the hereafter - for we will all end up there. All forms of intentions that lead to worship, such as asking other than Allah, is unacceptable. So, the purpose of the grave is for reminder, thereby, travelling to another country to get the reminder is impermissible and can open doors of other intentions. Therefore, it's best to visit the grave in one's own country, seek mercy from Allah for the dead, and gain the reward while its right there next to you.

    You can read Bin Baz's fatwa here.

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