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Is Zakat ul Fitr Fard?

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    Does anyone know why people say it is fard and why some say it is not?

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    Who says it is not fard?
    “And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: “This is lawful and this is forbidden,” so as to invent lies against Allaah. Verily, those who invent lies against Allaah will never prosper.” [al-Nahl 16:116].

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    Well many people since there is no saying coming from the Prophet stating that it is obligatory. We only have like two Sahaba who said its Fard but only one narration is authentic and that was their opinion.

    It seems like only Zakat that is fard is the one mentioned as one of the five pillars. Zakat ul fitr is not mentioned as one of the five pillars.

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    And the actual name for it is what Allah calls Sadaqah ul Fitr

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    there is plenty of hadeeth in sahih bukhari that says the prophet pbuh commanded them to give on saa of dates or barley. so that must mean this is an obligation. i see it says sometimes zakat and sometimes sadaqah and Allah does call zakat as sadaqah in the quran.

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    Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) enjoined the sadaqah of Ramadan upon the people, a saa‘ of dates or a saa‘ of barley, upon every person, free or slave, male or female, among the Muslims.
    Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1503; Muslim, 984.

    Just because the word sadaqah is used does not mean its not an obligation.
    “And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: “This is lawful and this is forbidden,” so as to invent lies against Allaah. Verily, those who invent lies against Allaah will never prosper.” [al-Nahl 16:116].

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    The issue is not what a Sahabi says.

    The issue is none of them actually reported the verbal command of the Messenger and only said this is what he told them to do. The actual words of the Messenger of Allah have not been conveyed. If it was a command through revelation, his words in the manner "Messenger of Allah said: "..."" or something similar must have been preserved as Allah promised to protect the remembrance. But considering his actual words were not conveyed or are not preserved, no one can say it is a command since the Sahaaba could have been mistaken or misunderstood as they are not protected from error. Only the Messenger of Allah did not speak from his hawaa.

    The revelation has to be verbally stated otherwise we cannot use anyone elses words in Islam. That is why people say zakat ul fitr is not an obligation and it is a praiseworthy deed that is permissible seeing that nothing directly from the Prophet is reporting commanding everyone to give it.

    And there are individuals who believed or still believe zakat ul fitr to be abrogated because of the hadith of Qays bin Sa'd bin Ubada who said when the ayah of zakat was revealed, the Messenger did not command them to give fitr. The zakat that is mentioned amongst the five pillars is not of fitr. It is the zakat of adha.
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    Default Re: Is Zakat ul Fitr Fard?

    It seems you know more about this issue than your initial post implied, I wonder why you asked the question if you know the answer?

    Anyway can you post some references from classical sources which state that zakat al fitr is not wajib.
    “And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: “This is lawful and this is forbidden,” so as to invent lies against Allaah. Verily, those who invent lies against Allaah will never prosper.” [al-Nahl 16:116].

    Syed Qutb (ra) when asked to seek pardon from nasser said
    Verily the index finger that testifies to the oneness of Allah in prayer utterly rejects to write even one letter that endorses the rule of the tyrant

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    Default Re: Is Zakat ul Fitr Fard?

    to the question who says its not Fard? you say:

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    Well many people
    you take what "many people" say but not what the Sahaba say?

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    Zakat ul fitr is not mentioned as one of the five pillars.
    there are lots of obligations that are not necessarily "pillars" you do realize that dont you?

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    The issue is none of them actually reported the verbal command of the Messenger and only said this is what he told them to do. The actual words of the Messenger of Allah have not been conveyed. If it was a command through revelation, his words in the manner "Messenger of Allah said: "...""
    here we go, another contradiction, first you argue elsewhere that it has to be given as food even though it was not a "command through revelation" as you say and here you are arguing that its not even obligatory at all becos there is no "command through revelation"

    also you said in post 43 "It is better to give in food as it in obedience to the Prophet" but now your saying that Zakatul Fitr itself is not in obedience to the Prophet (saw) becos there was no "command through revelation"



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    Also, where do you give this if you want to give food?
    Muslims in Burma are being beaten, tortured, raped + burnt alive for their beliefs. This is happening whilst the vast majority of the Muslim world looks the other way, are you one of those?

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