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Start of Fast times and confusions!

This is a discussion on Start of Fast times and confusions! within the Fiqh and its Application forums, part of the Main Topics category; Originally Posted by Abu'l 'Eyse Monday first fast! InnshaAllah Well yes according to the calendar, but hold on - are ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu'l 'Eyse View Post
    Monday first fast! InnshaAllah
    Well yes according to the calendar, but hold on - are we not supposed to start it when new moon is seen? It's every year the same old story and every year it's a mess.

    So you're going by the calendar?

    I think this is a good link: http://moonsighting.com/1432rmd.html

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    I'm basing it upon the community fasting all on Monday so following the jammah but not sure on times etc
    "Sit with one whose limbs address you, not his mouth." Sahl ibn `Abd Allah ibn Yunus, Abu Muhammad al-Tustari (d. 283), may Allah be well-pleased with him.

    قال إبن عمر: "ولا يكن في قولك فضل على فعلك" ,أخرج البيهقي: شعب الإيمان وابن حجر العسقلاني: الإصابة في تمييز الصحابة

    Ibn 'Umar said: "And do not let your words be in excess to your actions", Al-Baihaqi: Shu'ab al-Imaan and Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani: Al-Isaabah fee Taymeez as-Sahaaba




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    It's gotta be me who's living in the wrong country
    Every single year we have a mess - Salafi guys are literally going to wait and check for the crescent moon, at least this is what it used to be, and the official Islamic Org use calendar, but how they are coming to it, I simply donno.

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    Default Re: Start of Fast times and confusions!

    i see no moon here in canada so i think this will be the first year i seen where everyone starts at the same time.

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    Man why are you guys making it so complicated?! I'll just wait and see what the Sultan says on TV tonight...
    وَإِن تُطِعْ أَكْثَرَ مَن فِي الْأَرْضِ يُضِلُّوكَ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ ۚ إِن يَتَّبِعُونَ إِلَّا الظَّنَّ وَإِنْ هُمْ إِلَّا يَخْرُصُونَ

    "And if you obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far away from Allah's Path. They follow nothing but conjectures, and they do nothing but lie."
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    This is why they have experts for sighting the moon in Saudi. Not everyday Joe can sight the moon with his naked eye. It is not easy for us laymen to find the moon when it's like a hair in the sky.
    الإمام ابن القيم الجوزية رحمه الله فقال: بل الدين كله هو الخلق، فمن زاد عليك في الخلق، فقد زاد عليك في الدين
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    Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah رحمه الله said: Religion consists entirely of good character (الدين كله هو الخلق). Whoever surpasses you in good character surpasses you in religion.
    اللهم يا مقلب القلوب ثبت قلوبنا على دينك

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    Default Re: Start of Fast times and confusions!

    Green Lane's Ramadan Timetable is around an hour off the one produced by Shaykh Haitham. For Suhoor I'm going with the latter. However, the timing for Isha is also an issue with GLM starting at 10.03PM and the other timetable starting at 11.33PM.

    Can I still pray Isha and Taraweeh at GLM or do I have to stick to the timetable by Shaykh Haitham?

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    Every masjid I have researched so far are 1 hour out of the timetable produced by Haitham al Haddad. If you are going to follow that timetable I don't think you will find anywhere to join taraweeh in jama'at.

    I read the article, I don't know anything about fiqh but I can't help thinking that giving this to people a day before ramadan where now they are confused as to whether to pray at the masjid with all this new information they've got is too much.
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    I was going to say, this year, alhamdulillah, I didn't even get a whiff of ikhtilaaf on when Ramadan begins round here.

    It was nice.
    من لا يحب صعود الجبال يعش ابد الدهر بين الحفر

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    I am so confused.

    In this country, fajr is according to one masjid 4.30 and according to the other masjid 3.30. Shuruk is at 6AM. (Approx. times)

    So which one is the 18 degrees calculation?

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