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    The present discussion is on the question of Asr time. When does it begin? According to the Ahnaaf, Asr time commences at Mithlain, i.e. when the length of the shadow of an object has reached twice the le ngth of the object plus Fay-e-Zawaal. If, for example, the length of the shadow of a meter stick at Zawaal is 10 centimetres, then Asr time will begin when the length of the shadow is two metres and 10 centimetres.
    According to the deviant Salafis, Asr time commences at one Mithl, i.e. when the shadow equals one length of the object plus Fay-e-Zawaal. This is also the viewpoint of the other Math- habs.
    The purpose of our booklet is not to refute the validity of the viewpoints of the other Math-habs. There is no dispute with them. However, the criticism and baseless charges directed against the Hanafi Math- hab by the Salafis have necessitated a response to show that the Hanafi view is based on the Hadith in the same way as the other Math- habs claim that their views are structured on the Hadith. Since the Salafis and other Ghair Muqallideen of their ilk, in obedience to desire and opinion, have embarked on spreading confusion in the Ummah on masaail which have been resolved many centuries ago, the need for this re- sponse and refutation developed. Insha�Allah, this discus- sion will debunk their baseless claim that the Hanafi Fu- qaha have employed logic in conflict with the Sunnah to formulate the rules of the Shariah. It is there allegation
    that the Ahnaaf resort to opinion and interpretation inspite of the existence of clear Hadith proofs to the contrary.
    At the very outset we should say that on the issue of the beginning of Asr time, the Salafis have no Hadith which categorically asserts the Mithl view. They have resorted to interpretation of the Ahaadith in order to arrive at their opinion of Mithl. They simply lack even a single Hadith which clearly states the Mithl view. Thus, their charge of logic directed to the Ahnaaf rebounds on themselves and their opinion. It will, therefore, be correct for us to say that the Salafis have no Hadith evidence for their Mithl opinion. Let us now examine the basis and proofs of the two viewpoints on this question

    The only Hadith which the Ghair Muqallideen present to substantiate their view of Mithl, i.e. Asr begins after the shadow has reached one length), is the Hadith which ex- plains the times when Jibraeel (alayhis salaam) led Rasu- lullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) in Salaat, The Hadith is as follows:
    Ibn Abbaas (radhiyallahu anhu) narrates that Nabi
    (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: Jibraeel led me (i.e. became the Imaam) in Salaat by the Bait twice. On the first of the two occasions he performed Zuhr when the shadow was the length of a shoelace (i.e. very early) Then he performed Asr when the shadow of every object was equal to one mithl (once its length). Thereafter he per- formed MaghribOn the second occasion he performed Zuhr when the shadow of every thing was its mithl (one length) which was the Asr time of the day be- fore. Then he performed Asr when the shadow was mith- lain (twice the length of the object) (Tirmizi)
    This Hadith constitutes the strongest proof for the one Mithl view. Our argument in refutation of the Ghair Mu- qallideens view pertaining to this particular Hadith is as follows:
    (a) When it suits their desires, the Ghair Muqallideen con- veniently overlook their own principles of deduction and formulation of rules. They always demand unambiguous/ categoric (Sareeh) Ahaadith of the Saheeh class from their adversaries for the masaail. However, when they fail to discover any such Ahaadith to bolster their claims, they have no hesitation in accepting narrations of lesser degree of strength than Saheeh and even narrations of ambiguous and contradictory meanings.
    This particular Hadith which is their strongest daleel(proof) is of the Hasan cate gory. Ahaadith of this category are valid as basis by the Ahnaaf. But it devolves on Salafis who are so vociferous in their demand for Saheeh and Sareeh Ahaadith to produce such narrations. Presentation of narrations of a lesser category than Saheeh is improper for them.
    (b) Although this Hadith mentions that on the first of the two occasions Asr was performed at one Mithl, it is am- biguous in view of the contradiction of Zuhr having been performed also at one Mithl on the second occasion. In terms of the principle: When the proofs are contradictory, they are discarded., this Hadith should not be ten- dered as proof for Asr time. The contradiction has con- strained the operation of this principle.
    While the Hadith should not be used to substantiate the one Mithl view on account of the contradiction, a suitable interpretation has to be offered to avoid dismissing the Hadith which is of an authentic class albeit not of the Saheeh category. The best and most logical answer for the ostensible contradiction is that the performance of Zuhr at one Mithl on the second occasion abrogates the Asr time of the previous day when Asr was performed at one Mithl. On the basis of the interpretation of abrogation, the con- tradiction is eliminated and the Asr view of Mithlain(twice the length of the object) is upheld, in fact categori- cally confirmed by the following statement appearing in this very same Hadith: Then he performed Asr when the shadow was mithlain.
    (c) The other contradiction apparent here is that the Hadith clearly states that on the second occasion Zuhr was performed at the time of Asr of the day before. Zuhr may not be performed during Asr time. It has to be per- formed in its own time. Inspite of this, Hadhrat Jibraeel
    (alayhis salaam) led Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasal- lam) in Zuhr Salaat at a time which was Asr time the day before. This is further confirmation of the abrogation of the Asr time of the previous day.
    While one Mithl was the Asr time yesterday, today it was abrogated practically by performing Zuhr Salaat in the same time, i.e. the time when it was Asr the day before.
    (d) The following Hadith in Saheeh Muslim goes against the grain of the Salafis and rejects the one Mithl view for
    Asr:
    Abdullah Bin Umar (radhiyallahu anhu) narrates:
    Verily, Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said:
    The time of Zuhr is when the sun has past the zenith and (at that time) the shadow of a man was as his length and it lasts until the time of Asr has not set in.
    This Hadith categorically states that Zuhr time was at one Mithl. It is quite obvious that Asr cannot therefore also be at one Mithl. This Hadith also confirms the view of abro- gation, namely, that Asr which was performed at one Mithl on the first occasion of Jibraeels imamate was ab- rogated when he performed Zuhr at one Mithl on the next day.
    (e) Since the Salafis and Ghair Muqallideen in general rely so heavily on this particular Hadith, they should act in accord with it in entirely, not selectively. The Hadith states with clarity that on the second day Zuhr was per- formed at the time when Asr was performed the previous day. But this is not the math-hab of the Salafis. They dis- card this section of the Hadith inspite of it being after the practice of the first day. The Asr time of the previous time became the Zuhr time of the next day. But this is not the view of the Salafis inspite of the clarity of the Hadith on this aspect. Thus, this Hadith goes contrary to the view held by the Salafis.
    The Ghair Muqallideen have attempted to overcome this difficulty by arguing that Asr was performed after one mithl on the first day and Zuhr before one mithl on the second day. This argument is devoid of substance because:
    (i) The Hadith in question states with clarity that Asr was performed on the first day at one Mithl, not after one Mithl.
    (ii) The Hadith likewise states explicitly that Zuhr on the second day was performed at one Mithl, not before one Mithl.
    (iii) The Hadith is very clear in mentioning that Zuhr was performed on the second day at the time of Asr of the previous day.
    (iv) The Hadith of Abdullah Bin Umar (radhiyallahu anhu) also confirms that Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) stated that the time of Zuhr is after Zawaal, and that was a time when the shadow was one Mithl.
    (v) The Hadith of Jaabir (radhiyallahu anhu) in Nasai states that Zuhr was performed when the shadow was one Mithl. This Hadith relates to the very same episode of the imamate of Jibraeel (alayhis salaam). The relevant words are: Then he (Jibraeel) came the next day when the shadow of a man was its mithl. He then said: Stand up, O Muhammad! And perform Salaat. Then he performed Zuhr.
    It should be noted that on the second day Hadhrat Jibraeel
    (alayhis salaam) arrived only when the shadow was one mithl. Thus the Zuhr Salaat which he commanded Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) to perform was after one mithl, not before one mithl.
    This portion of the Hadith confirms the viewpoint of the
    Ahnaaf that after one Mithl it is still Zuhr time.

    2) THE HADITH OF ABDULLAH IBN UMAR (radhiyallahu anhu)
    Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Umar (radhiyallahu anhu) narrated that Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said : The time of Zuhr is when the sun has passed the meridian and the shadow of a man is h is length, until Asr has not set in.. (Saheeh Muslim)
    This Hadith explicitly mentions that Zuhr time begins after Zawaal and when the shadow is on e mithl. It is m e n- tioned with clarity that Zuhr is during one mithl.
    (3) THE HADITH OF THE HUJRAH
    Aishah (radhiyallahu anha) narrates: Verily, Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) performed Asr while the sun was in her hujrah (room) while the shadow had not yet b ecome apparent (on the walls).
    This Hadith ostensibly indicates that Asr was performed very early befor e Mithlain . The rationa l e for the on e mithl view in this narration is that if the shadow had already attained two lengths (mithlain), it would have been visible on the walls of the very small room.
    The door of the hujrah faced wes t where the sun sets . There was no roof at the entrance of th e hujrah . This allowed the sun to shine inside the room. Different explanations are given regarding the phenomenon of the shadow in this situation. Imaam Tahaawi (rahmatullah alayh) said: There is no i ndication that (the Salaat) was performe dearly..In fact, this narration indicates delay, not early performance.
    Whatever mer i t the Salafis may discern in this Hadith for their view, the ambiguity of the narration constrains them to resort to interpretation. The narration is not a categoric proof for the on e mithl view.
    (4 ) THE HADITH OF THE SUBURBS
    Anas Ibn Maalik (radhiyallahu anhu) narrates: Rasul u l- lah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) would perform Asr while the sun was high and bright. A man would go to the outlying suburbs and reach there while the sun was still high . Some of the suburbs were about four miles from Madinah. (Bukhaari)
    The argument is that the arrival of a person in the suburbs would have to be befor e mithl a i n because the sun would be quite high by the time he reached.
    This line of argument is extremely flimsy and cannot be p r e - sented as incontrovertible proof for the on e mithl view, especially when this view is in conflict with other Ahaadith (already discussed) which explicitly mention on e Mithl for Zuhr and Mithlain for Asr. Furthermore, the Hadith has to be interpreted to conform to the one mithl view. It is not an explicit statement which substantiates the Salafi viewpoint.
    This Hadith is not proof for th e mithl view because it is quite possible to reach t he outlying suburbs while the sun was still high after having performed Asr at Mithlain. Furthermore, the words Was- shamsumu rtiafah ' (the sun was high) means that the person would arrive quite some time prior to sunset. The sun being high in this context means, well before sunset. It does not mean before mithlain . While the sun was high', it was not at a height befor e mithlain . On the contrary it was close to setting. This is more reasonable since it would take approximately 1 hour 40 minutes to walk the 4 miles (7.2 kilometers). If the walk was commenced after Asr at Mithlain , the person would arrive while the sun was still quite high above the western horizon prior to sunset. There is no evidence in this Hadith that Asr was performed at one mithl.

    Anas Ibn Maalik (radhiyallahu anhu) narrates: Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) performed Asr. When he turned (to leave) a man from Bani Salmah came to him and said: O Rasulullah! We intend slaughtering a camel and wish you to attend. Nabi (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) replied: Yes.' He proceeded and we went with. We found that the camel had not yet been slaughtered. It was then slaughtered, cut up and cooked. We ate of it before the sun had set. (Saheeh Muslim) This Hadith is also cited in substantiation of the on e mith l view. It is argued that if Asr was performed after Mithlain , all this could no be possible. This claim is arbitrary and incorrect. It is quite possible to accomplish all this even after having performed Asr afte r Mithlain. The persons carrying out the work of slaughtering, skinning, cutting and cooking of the camel's meat were experts. This work did not pose a formidable task for them. The interpretation of Asr at one mithl claimed on the basis of this Hadith is extremely flimsy and untenable.
    Besides the aforegoing ambiguous Ahaadith, the Salafis have no Sareeh (explicit) Hadith to substantiate their claim that Asr commences at one Mithl . Their entire case is the product of interpretation. Ahaadith of ambiguous meanings have been interpreted to produce the ruling of one Mithl . Furthermore, the interpretations are far fetched, and this reduces the strength of their argumentation and the credibility of their view. On the contrary, the Hadith narrations speak with greater clarity in favour of the Hanafi view, namely, Asr begins at Mithlain . The Hadith proofs of the Ahnaaf are as follows:
    (1) The Hadith (No.1 ) pertaining to the imaamate of Jibraeel (alayhis salaam) which has already been discussed and explained.
    (2) The Hadith of Abdullah Bin Umar (radhiyallahu anhu) which explicitly mentions that Zuhr time was also at one Mithl . This has already been discussed.

    Abu Tharr Ghifaari (radhiyallahu anhu) said: We were with Nabi ( sallallahu alayhi wasallam) on a journey when the muaththin intended to give Athaan for Zuhr. Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi was a llam) said: Wait until it becomes cool (i.e. delay the Athaan until it becomes a bit cool).' (After some time), the muaththin again intended to give the Athaan Nabi (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said to him: Wait till it is a bit cool.' (The Muaththin waited) until we saw the shadow of the dunes. Then Nabi (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: Verily, the intensity of the heat i s of the flames of Jahannum Therefore when the heat is intense, delay the Salaat until it is cool. (Bukhaari)
    It is quite apparent from this Hadith that the Muaththin had intended to recite the Athaan quite early, i.e. before one mithl . However, Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) twice ordered him to delay the Zuhr Athaan which the Muaththin recited only after the appearance of the shadows of the sand dunes. The appea rance of the shadows of the dunes was after one mithl. Thus it is confirmed that one mithl and after it is still time of Zuhr
    In response to this proof of the Ahnaaf, it is argued that the instruction to delay Zuhr was on a journey, and perhaps this was for combining Zuhr with Asr. This argument is baseless be cause the Hadith explicitly mentions the reason for delaying Zuhr until the shadows of the dune became visible. The reason which is explicitly stated in the Hadith is : The intensity of the heat is of the flames of Jahannam. This illat (reason) applies whether one is on a journey or not. It is common to both situations, hence the ruling will apply whenever and wherever the illat exists.
    Furthermore, in another Hadith narrated by Abu Hurairah (radhiyallahu anhu), Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said : When the heat becomes intense, then delay the Salaat until it becomes cool, for verily, the in t ensity of the heat is of the flames of Jahannum. (Bukhaari)
    Another Hadith in this regard recorded in Nasaai confirms this position with greater clarity. Anas Bin Maalik (radhiyallahu anhu) narrates : When it would be hot, he would delay the Salaat until coolness, and when it was cold, he would perform it early.
    We understand from this Hadith that delaying Zuhr Salaat when it was very hot, and performing the Salaat early when it was cold, were the normal practices of Rasulullah (sallallahu al ayhi wasallam). Hence, to restrict the delay t o safar (journey) is utterly baseless.
    This Hadith is conspicuous proof for the view of the Ahnaaf that one mithl is still Zuhr time, not Asr. The question of the setting in of coolness' does not arise before mithl (one shado wlength). Before one mithl, the heat is intense . The description of the flames of Jahannum will appropriately apply to the heat prior to one mithl , not to the heat after one mithl . The heat after one mithl is cool' in relation to the heat before it.
    Rasulullah's (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) emphasis on ibraad (to perform Zuhr Salaat when the heat had relatively cooled) is adequate proof for the claim of the Ahnaaf that it was his no rmal practice to perform Zuhr after one mithl . This effectively negates the contention of Asr being at one mithl.
    Some have attempted to argue against the Ahnaaf with an even weaker interpretation. It is claimed that ibraad here does not mean to delay Salaat, but it means the opposite, viz. to perform Salaat early during the time called Burdun Nahaar (early afternoon). This weak interpretation is negated by the following facts :
    In the Hadith cited by Abu Tharr Ghifaari (radhiyallahu anhu), Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) explicitly instructed the Muaththin on two occasions to refrain from the Athaan and to delay it until it becomes cool. This instruction woul d be correct only if the Muaththin had attempted to give the Athaan early, as indeed he had.
    It is incorrect to describe the relatively cooler' heat of the early afternoon as being of the flames of Jahannum . This description aptly applies to the intense heat of the time after one mithl , not to the early afternoon heat.
    (4) The one Mithl shadow
    In the Hadith of Abdullah Ibn Umar (already discussed), the one mithl shadow of a man is not mentioned as the final time of Zuhr. It is stated as the Awwal Waqt (the Initial Time) with clarity. It is therefore baseless to aver that this initial time of Zuhr is the beginning of Asr.

    From the Ahaadith which we have discussed it is abundantly clear that Zuhr Salaat was performed even after one Mithl. There is not a single narration from which it could be inferred that Zuhr was performed after Mithlain (two shadow lengths). On the contrary , the Hadith is explicit in stating that Asr was performed when it was Mithlain . Narrating the Hadith of the imamate of Jibraeel (alayhis salaam), Hadhrat Jaabir (radhiyallahu anhu) says:
    Then Jibraeel came (on the second day) when the shadow of a man was twice his length. Then he said: Stand up, O Muhammad and perform Salaat.' He then performed Asr. (Nasaai)
    It has been established beyond doubt that Zuhr time continues after one Mithl , and that Mithlain is the time of Asr in the unanimous view of all authorities. While there is difference on the beginning of Asr time, no one disputes the validity of Asr when it is Mithlain . There is no third view. Mithlain is confirmed to be exclusively Asr time. Hence, it is a logical necessity to accept that Zuhr time expires when it is Mithlain which ushers in the time for Asr.

    The contention of the Salafis is that the case of the Ahnaaf is not based on Hadith, but is in conflict with Hadith. They pretend that their view is structured on Sareeh (explicit) Hadith narrations of the Saheeh class. But this is not the case. It has been seen that the primary basis of their view, viz., the Hadith of Jibraeels Imaamate, is not a Sareeh substantiation for their view. On the contrary, it contradicts their opinion.
    The view of Asr commencing with one Mithl has no Sareeh Hadith to bolster it. Interpretation (Taweel) has been adopted to support the one mithl view with Ahaadith.
    All Math-habs employ the Hadith of Jibraeels Imaamate as their basis. Just as the Ahnaaf are constrained to resort to interpretation of the Ahaadith on this question, so too are all others compelled to adopt interpretation. There is, therefore, no justification for the allegation that the view of the Ahnaaf is in conflict with the Ahaadith.
    This exercise has not been embarked on with the intention to disprove the views of the other three Mathhabs on the question of Asr time. The aim is only to show that the ruling of the Hanafi Mathhab is based on the Ahaadith, not in conflict with it.
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    Superb article brother, showing the ahnaaf viewpoint and our evidences.
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    May Allah reward you all!
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    بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

    Although I have my own criticism about some parts of this article that must not have been said as the one who wrote it fell in the same mistakes of those who criticized. nevertheless, Muslims need to know a fact; none of the four Imams rejected a Hadeeth and that all of them strived to act upon the Sunnah to the best of their avialibilities.

    The issue of time of Asir is a dispute between the Hanafi Madhab and the majrority (i.e. the other three Madhabs). However, the dipsute is valid although the majority view the opinion of the Hanafi Madhab about this issue is Marjouh. That said, whoever follows any of these two view (i.e. Hanafi or majority) is correct with what he did.

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    According to Abu Yusuf and Muhammad, it is one mithl.
    قال الحافظ أبو نصر
    ومما يدل على ديانة نعيم [بن حماد] وأمانته رجوعه إِلى الحق لما نبه على سهوه وأوقف على غلطه، فلم يستنكف عن قبول الصواب
    إذ الرجوع إِلى الحق خير من التمادي في الباطل، والمتمادي في الباطل لم يزدد من الصواب إلا بعدا
    جـ 29 صـ 471، تهذيب الكمال للمزي، الطبعة الأولى، مؤسسة الرسالة بيروت، 1413 هـ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harris Hammam View Post
    According to Abu Yusuf and Muhammad, it is one mithl.
    exactly, some of the local deobandi hanafi imams here say you can pray in the earlier time but need to be consistent in which opinion you take

    for example - when you work a night shift and want to read dhur as late as possible you become a hanafi and when you need to go and play football and it falls in asr time you take the other opinion to read it earlier

    ^ this is where the problems come in as you are taking opinions to suit your desires

    i think its vital you stick to one opinion

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    My personal preference is Abu Hanifah's opinion. I wrote a ten page essay a while back on this issue when I was studying. If I can locate it, maybe I'll put it up. I am away from my library now though...
    قال الحافظ أبو نصر
    ومما يدل على ديانة نعيم [بن حماد] وأمانته رجوعه إِلى الحق لما نبه على سهوه وأوقف على غلطه، فلم يستنكف عن قبول الصواب
    إذ الرجوع إِلى الحق خير من التمادي في الباطل، والمتمادي في الباطل لم يزدد من الصواب إلا بعدا
    جـ 29 صـ 471، تهذيب الكمال للمزي، الطبعة الأولى، مؤسسة الرسالة بيروت، 1413 هـ

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    Yes please locate that brother as it would be very interesting. I wasn't even 100% sure you were hanafi.
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    Default Re: Time for Asr Salat (Proof of Hanafi)

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    Although the two companions of Abu hanfia says otherwise but the fatwa of the Madhab in this issue is based on the view of the Imam as it is known in the Madhab i.e. Asir Asr time commences at Mithlain, i.e. when the length of the shadow of an object has reached twice the length of the object plus Fay-e-Zawaal.

    Anyhow, it is not a big issue that laypeople should busy themselves with. whenever the Jama'a is established then pray it with them as both will surely pray it after its time commence (smile). And if you are praying alone then pray it according to the Madhab you are adopting. smile

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    Default Re: Time for Asr Salat (Proof of Hanafi)

    Quote Originally Posted by Omar Farook Al Afghani View Post
    Yes please locate that brother as it would be very interesting. I wasn't even 100% sure you were hanafi.
    1. I don't need to prove to anyone - especially you - that I am a Hanafi.

    2. I'm not really that bothered of being a Hanafi.

    3. Just because I am not of the Ash'ari/Maturidi creed should not give anyone the right to assume that I am not a Hanafi. Was Ibn Abil Izz not a Hanafi?

    4. The Karraamiyyah and the Mu'tazilah were Hanafis too.

    5. 'Hanafi' means nothing in the eyes of the Shariah. 'Muslim' does.

    6. BTW, if I do Tarjeeh of Abu Hanifah's opinion, does that make a Hanafi automatically? I might be a misguided Hanbali Mujtahid...

    7. If I find my essay, I might now not post it, since my initial intention was providing knowledge only, whereas now it has been somewhat tainted with an urge to prove myself to be Hanafi. Maybe this unwanted intention shall fade away, but until then, I won't.

    8. Omar, thank you for making such an irrelevant comment of you being doubtful of whether I was a 'Hanafi' or not.

    9. Have a nice day.

    10. HH. Out
    قال الحافظ أبو نصر
    ومما يدل على ديانة نعيم [بن حماد] وأمانته رجوعه إِلى الحق لما نبه على سهوه وأوقف على غلطه، فلم يستنكف عن قبول الصواب
    إذ الرجوع إِلى الحق خير من التمادي في الباطل، والمتمادي في الباطل لم يزدد من الصواب إلا بعدا
    جـ 29 صـ 471، تهذيب الكمال للمزي، الطبعة الأولى، مؤسسة الرسالة بيروت، 1413 هـ

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