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Why do Malikis believe in Forced marriage (ijbar) ??

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    Assalamu 'alaykum

    Why does the Maliki madhab allow forced marriage? There are so many ahadith and even verses of the Quran against this, so does anyone know what evidence they use?
    I looked into the matter and could not find any evidence at all to support the maliki position, not even a weak hadith.

    Does anyone here know how they came to this conclusion?

    And is it just the Malikis or do the Shafiis believe the same thing?

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    Default Re: Why do Malikis believe in Forced marriage (ijbar) ??

    Do you mean marriage of the non-baligh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salamat View Post
    Do you mean marriage of the non-baligh?
    it's not just non-baligh, it's any virgin, baligh or not according to their madhab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawtul Islam View Post
    it's not just non-baligh, it's any virgin, baligh or not according to their madhab.
    Then bring me textual evidence from the main Maliki books permitting "forced" marriages

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    Default Re: Why do Malikis believe in Forced marriage (ijbar) ??

    If this is true, can someone provide the Illa behind it?
    They usually bring forth as evidence (which i don't understand), the Prophet (salallhu 'alayhi wa sallam) marrying 'Aisha, and 'Umar marrying Umm Kulthum bint 'Ali.
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    Default Re: Why do Malikis believe in Forced marriage (ijbar) ??

    The following thread discusses the opinion(s) of the madhaahib on this issue.

    http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f...-madhab-14445/
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    Default Re: Why do Malikis believe in Forced marriage (ijbar) ??

    Go to justabro's posts on that thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagBearer View Post
    The following thread discusses the opinion(s) of the madhaahib on this issue.

    http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f...-madhab-14445/
    well I still see absolutely no evidence in support of this view on that thread

    it seems to be entirely baselss, and worse yet it clearly and blatantly contradicts the Quran and Sunnah


    The ONLY evidence that I did find... was the Jewish book of Deutronomy chapter 25
    is that where it came from????

    Sahih Muslim:
    Abu Said Alkhudri reported Allah's messenger (saw)
    as saying: You would tread the same path as was trodden by those
    before you inch by inch and step by step so much so that if they had
    entered into the hole of the lizard, you would follow them in this
    also. We said: Allah's messenger, do you mean the Jews and Christians? He said: Who else (than those two
    religious groups)?
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