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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharif10 View Post
    Akhi, are you sure you should post such things about other Muslims - no matter who they are - if you have not verified them?

    The Prophet (saws) said that it is enough for someone to be considered to a liar by simply repeating everything they hear. (I am not calling you a liar btw).
    Bro the person who sent it me gave it as something to be held up or admirable. They were like 'oh masha'allah look at this' and had been sent to them. It had the part at the top about sending it where you want. I know this person is trustworthy and they probably got sent it in good faith.

    Does it look fake? Does it look like it is fabricated?
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    man these guys are boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IbnShaykh View Post
    Bro the person who sent it me gave it as something to be held up or admirable. They were like 'oh masha'allah look at this' and had been sent to them. It had the part at the top about sending it where you want. I know this person is trustworthy and they probably got sent it in good faith.

    Does it look fake? Does it look like it is fabricated?
    Some of it did seem kind of fishy to me. But regardless, the principle is that we should always make sure something is verified before publicizing it, especially if it concerns any Muslim brother or sister.

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    I didn't make the actual post like this, it was originally in a different thread to be clear, so I never chose the title etc.

    What is fishy about it?

    So should the post be deleted do people think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IbnShaykh View Post
    What is fishy about it?
    Some of it seemed kind of strange, such as this:

    1:00:51 PM] Person A: and you need to start writing more stuff for muslim matters
    [1:01:13 PM] Person A: that blog gets to a lot of north americans
    [1:01:21 PM] TC: muslim matters is dissapointing me
    [1:01:30 PM] TC: that they allow idiots to post annonm
    [1:01:36 PM] TC: annonymously and repy to posts
    [1:01:47 PM] Person A: oh but thats the blogging world for you
    [1:01:49 PM] TC: and any person can insult you
    [1:01:53 PM] TC: and they dont remove that
    [1:02:10 PM] Person A: shaykh but the dogs will always bark...you can't get affected by their incessant barking
    [1:02:13 PM] TC: yes in understand, but i have tremendous slef respect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharif10 View Post
    Some of it seemed kind of strange, such as this:
    Strange because we don't expect it?
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    My impression is simply an opinion or observation, and it could be wrong. Far more important, however, is what the Prophet (saws) said, and that we should always check the source of such things and establish that they are true before we pass them on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharif10 View Post
    My impression is simply an opinion or observation, and it could be wrong. Far more important, however, is what the Prophet (saws) said, and that we should always check the source of such things and establish that they are true before we pass them on.
    I understand what your saying.

    What do others think?
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    Well, if this was actually sent out to you in an email, it was publicised. If it had been publicised by Tawfique's foes, it would be something to consider, but according to you, it was circulated by one of his fans.

    So I don't see what the big deal is here.

    Yes, if one these guys simply made it up, it would be a serious issue. I guess that could only be discerned by you (IbnShaykh) since only you can know whether the guy is trustworthy or a liar. Although, it wouldn't harm finding out from the guy who publicised it, whether it is to be publicised, and whether or not this is accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abuz Zubair View Post
    Well, if this was actually sent out to you in an email, it was publicised. If it had been publicised by Tawfique's foes, it would be something to consider, but according to you, it was circulated by one of his fans.

    So I don't see what the big deal is here.

    Yes, if one these guys simply made it up, it would be a serious issue. I guess that could only be discerned by you (IbnShaykh) since only you can know whether the guy is trustworthy or a liar. Although, it wouldn't harm finding out from the guy who publicised it, whether it is to be publicised, and whether or not this is accurate.
    Well if it is fabricated and they recieved it and just past it on Allaahu Alaam I do not know.

    What I do know is the person who sent it is truthworthy and honest, and had no real idea who tawfique was except a speaker who has lectures on the net. Simply I recieved it as a naseeha and praise of tawfique telling me how nice the conversation was. The person who got it recieved it with that heading 'send it out to whoever you wish'.

    So Allaahu Alaam I do not know the source as in where the person who sent me got it from, but they just passed it along in good faith from being emailed it themself.

    So yes there is an issue, is it authentic? But it was circulating via email among people as I said as a 'naseeha' and came with that heading that I posted it with thus I didn't think it private.

    However if based upon this, there is doubt or it is haram to post please just delete it.

    Also I think making it look like I posted it with that heading is slightly misleading, I never posted it per se to illustrate his 'arrogance' but to give insight generally into what he says and his views.
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