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Embryology in the Qur'an: Hamza Andreas Tzortzis

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    "Embryology in the Qur'an: A Scientific-Linguistic Analysis of Chapter 23" paper is now available to download here: http://www.hamzatzortzis.com/?page_id=61


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    Default Re: Embryology in the Qur'an: Hamza Andreas Tzortzis

    The brother who authored that work is a true Lion

    May Allah reward him immensely for defending the Deen

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    Default Re: Embryology in the Qur'an: Hamza Andreas Tzortzis

    Ameeen

    I still havnt met the brother, inshaAllah soon

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    Default Re: Embryology in the Qur'an: Hamza Andreas Tzortzis

    I've seen parts of his debates against atheists

    I think he came from atheism to Islam, which is why he engages with atheists and their false polemics the most

    But the origin of this argument is those subhuman xtian missionaries ... I actually read a detailed refutation regarding this ridiculous claim not too long ago that proved that what the greeks proposed is actually not similar at all to what Allah states in the Qur'an ... but the claim of an Arab physician teaching the Prophet (saw) about embryology (ironically he met Rasoolullah [sa] supposedly AFTER the ayats were already revealed) is a new level of dishonesty and stupidity from these feral pagan cross worshiping missionaries

    In reality it is the Bible that plagarizes the greeks ... Job 10:10 directly takes from Aristotle's work "On the Generation of Animals"

    EDIT:

    Found it

    http://www.quranicstudies.com/articl...mbryology.html

    Proves without a doubt that the Qur'an didn't use any of the previous ideas on embryology
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    Default Re: Embryology in the Qur'an: Hamza Andreas Tzortzis

    The paper the IERA Bachelors of Psychology graduate presents is actually quite primitive and very wrong, i.e. without any substance.

    If the Bible or both Bibles copy something from the Greeks, how does that affect the Koran?

    There were 2 physicians, one a Christian, in the entourage (sahaba) of Muhammad. Both educated in Greek medicine.
    I don't know anyone claiming that anyone taught Muhammad anything. I just observe a description of something in the Koran and if I compare that to reality today, it is wrong. However, if I compare the same thing to Greek medicine, it matches - some things even word for word. Odd, don't you think?

    Now I am not criticising Muslims or Islam. I criticise erroneous claims, lies and fraud.

    The text in the quranicstudies.com is the one I used for my refutation. It is used in several places on the net, because people like it it as it looks well structured and complete initially. If you analyse it, you will quickly find it misleading and fraudulent - if you take the time. But most Muslims I know don't want to analyse and research because they could find something unpleasant.

    On this forum I have found some people who seem to be different and who actually do some of their own work, so I look forward to the opinions and replies.

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    The paper the IERA Bachelors of Psychology graduate presents is actually quite primitive and very wrong, i.e. without any substance.
    says the one who has never ever read the Qur'an nor its classical explanation nor its dictionaries...FAIL.

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    Default Re: Embryology in the Qur'an: Hamza Andreas Tzortzis

    Quote Originally Posted by abu hafs View Post
    says the one who has never ever read the Qur'an nor its classical explanation nor its dictionaries...FAIL.
    Says the one who has not read my introduction and does not provide any factual response.
    Do you always react like this to the slightest criticism?
    Do you always judge people without the slightest hint of their background?
    Do you always jump on people regardless whether they might have a point?
    Do you always make assertions which make you look incapacitated?

    Maybe I was wrong about the intellectual capacity of people here.
    Last edited by StopS; 27th November 2011 at 01:56 AM.

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    Default Re: Embryology in the Qur'an: Hamza Andreas Tzortzis

    So now we have an atheist who is a scholar of Islam. Do you speak Arabic and where have you studied it?
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    Default Re: Embryology in the Qur'an: Hamza Andreas Tzortzis

    I have not studied ancient Arabic. As have the other 99.9% of Muslims.
    As from what level from what university do you accept criticism?

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