Khawarij??

[abdulqawi]

Asalaamu'alaikum,

I recently heard a brother say 'we should abandon them' so then i asked, who should we abandon and he replied 'the khawarij...' sos i was a bit confused then asked who are the khawarij he then replied and said 'so and so's name i.e. the mj'
He liked to mention the opinion of Burbahriah???
Since then i have spoken to him again about the issue as i asked a firned if we could call 'mj' khawarij, and he said to me that these ppl need ot have all the characteristics of the khawarij (from the time of the sahabah) in order to be named one.

So my questions are;
What are the characteristics of the khawarij (from the time of the sahabah)?
And can we call the mj, khawarij? Do any mushaykh hold this opinion (that you can call them khawarij)

Please help

[heart4allah]

who's mj.............?

[Abu Shu'aib]

Are We Khawarij?

[Taken from “Kalimat Haqq”]

Shaykh ‘Umar ‘Abdur-Rahman فك الله اسره said:

“So as for the Khawarij, the ‘Ulama have explained that they are the ones who rebel against the True Imam (Al-Imam Al-Haqq), and they openly disobey him, and they conspire against him - So where is this True Imam today, with regards to whom we could label anyone who rebels against him as a “Khariji”?!

Where is the ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib of today!?

And if we are Khawarij, then who are you (O regimes and O royal scholars)?! Are you ‘Ali رضي الله ان and his Companions?!

And did ‘Ali رضي الله ان take the laws of his governance from the legislation of the Persians and the Romans?!

Did he govern according to “socialism” and “democracy”? Or was he a caller to “nationalism” and “social peace”?

Or was ‘Ali an ally and supporter of the Jews and Beijing?!

Or was ‘Ali forsaking the Hudud of Allah (i.e. the Islamic penalties), and implementing punishments for which Allah did not send down any permission? Or can it be said that ‘Ali was possibly calling towards the establishment of the Khilafah, a crime which cannot be forgiven!?

Or was ‘Ali waging war against chastity and purity, calling for women’s “liberation” and for her to travel freely?!

Or was ‘Ali one of those who have split the Qur’an into parts (i.e. believed in a part and disbelieved in the other)? Those who say: “No Islam in politics, and no politics in Islam”?!

And pardoned is Imam ‘Ali - may Allah dignify his face - he was not like that at all. Rather, he was of the most eager to implement the Judgments of Allah, and governing with the Book of Allah, and the Sunnah of His Messenger. So no doubt, that the one who rebels against this Just Imam (Al-Imam Al-‘Adil), he is truly a Khariji.

As for someone who perpetrates all of these falsehoods which we have just mentioned - then the one who rebels against such a ruler is not a Khariji; Rather, he is a Muslim, a Mu’min, a Muttaqi.”

source

[thefitrah]

who's mj.............?

He's referring to Al-Muhajiorun lot. The brother's obviously encountered a madkhali who is trying to convince him that Muhajiroun are actually khawarijj.

Despite of the major differences with MJ, I think it's a big stretch to label them as khawarij.

Perhaps others could shed some light on this.

[hatimabu]

Hey Abdul-Qawi,

I really needed a shovel the other day and you never called me back! Guess you were too busy engaging in theological debates, LOL!

Surely some groups can have traits of a specific group without being a full-blown version of that group, right?!