2nd Bin Laden message in 24 hours
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- 21st March 2008 #1
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2nd Bin Laden message in 24 hours
Laden condemns Gaza siege
The audiotape is the second to be released
by Osama bin Laden in the last 24 hours
Osama bin Laden has said that the best way for Muslims to help Palestinians is to support Iraqis fighting against the government and US forces.
In the audiotape, which was the second to be released by the al-Qaeda leader in 24 hours, he also accused Arab leaders of backing the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip.
"The nearest jihad battlefield to support our people in Palestine is the battlefield of Iraq … It should be taken care of and supported," he said the audiotape released on Thursday.
"Palestine cannot be retaken by negotiations and dialogue, but with fire and iron".
"The suffocating siege imposed upon the Gaza Strip came into existence after the support offered by the Arab governments to the US and Zionist entity in Annapolis at the expense of the resistance in Palestine," the voice said.
Last November's conference in Annapolis, Maryland, restarted the stalled Israeli-Palestinian peace process.
The tape, whose authenticity could not be immediately verified, came a day following another audio message in which bin Laden warned Europe of a "reckoning" for publishing controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammed.
Addressing the "intelligent ones" in the European Union, the speaker said publishing the "insulting drawings" was a greater crime than Western forces targeting Muslim villages and killing women and children.
"The reckoning for it will be more severe," he said.
Bin Laden said in the message that the publication of the cartoons was part of a "new crusade" involving Pope Benedict.
The Vatican rejected the accusations.
Reverand Federico Lombardi, the chief Vatican spokesman said: "It is natural to think that he would lump the Vatican and the Pope together with all his perceived enemies. But this is not correct."
Earlier on Thursday, the White House said that US intelligence chiefs were confident that the voice on the tape released on Wednesday was that of the al-Qaeda.
The message coincided with the fifth anniversary of the Iraq war.
Bin Laden has claimed responsibility for the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, which killed nearly 3,000 people and prompted the US-led invasion of Afghanistan.
- 21st March 2008 #2Mustafa al-MuhaajirGuest
Bin Laden Urges Jihad for Palestinians
Bin Laden Urges Jihad for Palestinians
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) — Osama bin Laden lashed out Thursday at Palestinian peace negotiations with Israel and called for a holy war to liberate the Palestinian lands.
A day after a bin Laden audio on a militant Web site threatened Europeans, Al-Jazeera TV broadcast audio excerpts attributed to the al-Qaida leader that urge Palestinians to ignore political parties "mired in trickery of the blasphemous democracy" and to rely on armed might.
"Palestine cannot be retaken by negotiations and dialogue, but with fire and iron," he said.
It was the first time bin Laden spoke of the Palestinian question at length since the deteriorating situation in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, where the Israeli military has been fighting with militants who fire rockets into southern Israel.
Bin Laden added that Palestinians who are unable to fight in the "land of Al-Quds" — a Muslim reference to Jerusalem — should join the al-Qaida fight in Iraq.
"The nearest field of jihad today to support our people in Palestine is the Iraqi field," he said.
He also called on the people of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia to "help in support of their mujahedeen brothers in Iraq, which is the greatest opportunity and the biggest task."
Al-Jazeera did not say how it obtained the recording, which was broadcast with an old photograph of bin Laden in a white headscarf and traditional Arab dress.
There was no indication how recently the recording was made, or if it was an unreleased part of the audio posted late Wednesday on an extremist Web site that has carried al-Qaida statements in the past. The two messages were bin Laden's first this year.
In the first recording, bin Laden accused Pope Benedict XVI of helping in a "new Crusade" against Muslims and warned of a "severe" reaction for Europeans' publication of cartoons seen by Muslims as insulting Islam's prophet.
In the audio on Al-Jazeera, bin Laden said the sufferings of Palestinians in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip began when Arab leaders supported the U.S.-hosted Mideast peace conference in Annapolis, Md., and the "Zionist entity," the militant name for Israel
The mention of the Annapolis summit in November was the only time reference given in the audio.
"By their support, they are considered partners to this horrible crime," bin Laden said of Arab leaders who are backing the Mideast peace talks.
He appeared to be seeking to merge the Palestinian cause into the wider al-Qaida struggle. There have been concerns al-Qaida would try to increase its influence in Palestinian territories, with supporters of the terror network calling for such action on Web sites.
Israel has been battling Hamas in Gaza since the Islamic militant group took control of the strip last June from followers of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. Israeli air raids are common in Gaza and militants fire rockets into Israeli towns near the strip.
"Palestine will not return to us with the negotiations by the submissive rulers, their conferences, nor by demonstrations and elections," bin Laden said. "Palestine will come back to us if we awaken from our ignorance and adhere to our religion and sacrifice our lives and means to it."
Although al-Qaida has previously released two messages in as many days — most recently by bin Laden's top deputy Ayman al-Zawahri in December — the latest two appeared to be the closest by bin Laden, said Ben Venzke, head of IntelCenter, a U.S. group that monitors militant messages.
"Al-Qaida has been making a concerted effort to be responsive to developments in news cycle and to respond to current events with their perspective on it," Venzke said. "The situation in Gaza and the reprinting of cartoons was something bin Laden felt was important to address."
A militant Web site that frequently carries al-Qaida postings, said later Thursday that it expected bin Laden's new audio on "The Way to Salvage Palestine" soon.
In Israel, Foreign Ministry spokesman Arye Mekel told The Associated Press that Israel does not comment on bin Laden's statements.
Saeb Erekat, a negotiator for Abbas' Palestinian administration, said it was up to all parties in the talks to show that bin Laden's path isn't the way.
"We and the international community must prove him wrong, because we have been pursuing peace through negotiations, and I believe the parties involved must make every effort to make the year 2008 a year of peace," Erekat said.
The audio released Wednesday raised concerns al-Qaida was plotting attacks in Europe. Some experts said bin Laden, believed to be hiding along the Afghan-Pakistan area, might be unable to organize attacks himself and was trying to fan anger over the cartoons to inspire violence by supporters.
State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the contents of bin Laden's message "are filled with hate and encouraging people to murder innocents in the name of a perverted and depraved cause."
A Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said Thursday that bin Laden's accusation about the pope was baseless. He said Benedict repeatedly criticized the Muhammad cartoons, first published in some European newspapers in 2006 and republished by Danish papers in February.
- 21st March 2008 #3
"We do not want a war with Islam, we want a war within Islam." Thomas Friedman, New York Times, December 12, 2001 CE
- 21st March 2008 #4"We do not want a war with Islam, we want a war within Islam." Thomas Friedman, New York Times, December 12, 2001 CE
- 21st March 2008 #5Mustafa al-MuhaajirGuest
- 21st March 2008 #6
Why do they keep posting old pictures of "bin Laden" on these audios?
They should post this picture instead:
Isn't this supposedly "real"??? Then why dont they showing it anymore? Because it was such an embarrasment that they dont want to remind us of it, hoping that we will forget it, so they post pictures of bin laden from real videos and put a fake audio over it.
If these guys were honest they would put up the picture of the "fat bin laden" which they claim is real, but they never do anymore because they know it's fake and they know that many people realised that it's fake.
So basically you are either with the monafiqeen or the fake bin laden. Palestinians get to choose between two CIA agents.
Last edited by Sawtul Islam; 21st March 2008 at 05:00 PM.
- 24th March 2008 #7
i believe by mentioning "CIA agent" you mean the guy trying to impersonate OBL
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