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    Here are two blog posts by another foreign non-Muslim journalist who was in Egypt at the time, Tmoris Grecko, who claims to have eye-witnessed what allegedly happened to Lara Logan.

    1. Rape? Women? Stripped? What really happened to Lara Logan? UBUNTU
    (Note: The page may take an extra few seconds to load due to the enormous amount of comments on the post.)

    2. Lara Logan and CBS dont care about racism. Theyre not helping the womens cause, either UBUNTU

    The second link is from after her way-belated interview wherein she detailed everything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmoris Grecko
    Also, my witnesses said no soldiers came out of their military post. It was young men including two of my interviewees who formed a protective human chain around her and took her to the military post. She was saved by physical force, not by some mystic liquid aura of their women.

    Now, this is just his word versus hers, so to speak. So I don't claim to believe this man wholeheartedly, of course. But her story is nothing but words with no proof, too. So why should her tall tale receive precedence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Abd al-Kareem View Post
    Here are two blog posts by another foreign non-Muslim journalist who was in Egypt at the time, Tmoris Grecko, who claims to have eye-witnessed what allegedly happened to Lara Logan.

    1. Rape? Women? Stripped? What really happened to Lara Logan? UBUNTU
    (Note: The page may take an extra few seconds to load due to the enormous amount of comments on the post.)

    2. Lara Logan and CBS dont care about racism. Theyre not helping the womens cause, either UBUNTU

    The second link is from after her way-belated interview wherein she detailed everything.


    An excerpt:




    Now, this is just his word versus hers, so to speak. So I don't claim to believe this man wholeheartedly, of course. But her story is nothing but words with no proof, too. So why should her tall tale receive precedence?
    Lol... grecko claims your signature is referring to him.
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    The updates were entertaining. The infamy and attention of IA will never cease to amuse me it seems.

    In case Grecko ever decides to come in for a third Update to Update his last Update, I would like to clarify for his benefit that :

    1) Kaafir is a generic term and not necessarily derogatory, it's a method of distinction but does not classically contain the bigotry he connotes with it.

    2) The reason it was mentioned was to not make it seem that any one testament was given precedence over the other (thus making the poster hypocritical in his acceptance of any one testimony) but that there were conflicting views which made the story faulty at best.

    3) I know journalism doesn't give much time for forums, but if he'd like to join and kindly look at the 'signature' option, he'd realize that everything below the line is attached to basically every post and such a statement would necessitate that 'Abd al-Kareem was calling every single person ever quoted or referred to as a sub-laymen.

    Which is utterly ridiculous. The disclaimer was referring to himself (meaning the poster not the quoted).

    Somehow those 'updates' undermined his whole article for me a bit and made it emo to be honest.

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    Oh, dear.


    Well, undoubtedly this situation
    surely calls for a clarification. throwback?

    Unintended miscommunication,
    which - admittedly - occurs on occasion.

    And now I've come to the realization,
    that this requires a rectification!

    So I've offered an explanation
    to rid us of this complication,

    And I posted it at his blogging station.
    You may find it at this location.

    May it serve as an alleviation
    of any previous obfuscation!
    DISCLAIMER: Before you read any of my posts or accept any of my arguments, keep in mind that the above has been posted by a layman who, in most cases, would have been better off keeping silent.
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    I didn't pay attention to anything on that Blog but to: Ubuntu!

    Read this is Arabic:

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    What a mix-up, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Abd al-Kareem View Post
    Oh, dear.


    Well, undoubtedly this situation
    surely calls for a clarification. throwback?

    Unintended miscommunication,
    which - admittedly - occurs on occasion.

    And now I've come to the realization,
    that this requires a rectification!

    So I've offered an explanation
    to rid us of this complication,

    And I posted it at his blogging station.
    You may find it at this location.

    May it serve as an alleviation
    of any previous obfuscation!

    Hmm... I Found the hidden message....now attempting to decipher it...lol

    may Allah bless you for all your efforts Br. Abd al Kareem. Your posts, at least for me, have put a lot of things into prospective. I wish there were more "sub laymen" like you...May Allah help you in continuing this effort...

    P.S. - Don't take this as praise, rather a post of thanks. I would not praise my brother to his face, but nothing is stopping me from thanking him in nice words, is there?
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    One of the comments reads:

    When I read Laras story (which surfaced in Aust & NZ about a week ago) I was shocked and horrified. I brought it up as a topic on my daughters facebook page yesterday. She was telling a story of how a Bedou teacher at her school got angry with her because she could not get access to my daughters classroom to teach her class as the door was locked & that this caused her have to teach her girls in a foyer area where to her horror she was watched by a man.

    The point of the story being how careful women have to be in Arab society.

    What an Idiot - then he goes on to say.. How can a beautiful blonde woman with western clothes be sent to volatile blah blah blah..... Hahaha.. Funny stuff.

    Edit: I could care less about this woman and her experience, everyday their 'women' get raped in their countries, why is this woman a special case. If they want society in general to change, they need to get rid of this 'Hollywood' lifestyle where everything evolves around sex. Then maybe they'll get back some of their moral principles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Abd al-Kareem View Post
    Oh, dear.


    Well, undoubtedly this situation
    surely calls for a clarification. throwback?

    Unintended miscommunication,
    which - admittedly - occurs on occasion.

    And now I've come to the realization,
    that this requires a rectification!

    So I've offered an explanation
    to rid us of this complication,

    And I posted it at his blogging station.
    You may find it at this location.

    May it serve as an alleviation
    of any previous obfuscation!
    Are you that guy who had a poetry thing with Yasir Qadhi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad10 View Post
    Hmm... I Found the hidden message....now attempting to decipher it...lol
    Lol! You're a sly one!

    I doubt you'll be able to interpret it, dear friend. You haven't been around long enough.

    Whoever does figure it out, though, will get an enormous amount of rep courtesy of the Royalty of IA Forums, so guess away kind folk!


    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad10 View Post
    may Allah bless you for all your efforts Br. Abd al Kareem. Your posts, at least for me, have put a lot of things into prospective. May Allah help you in continuing this effort...
    Ameen wa iyyak.


    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad10 View Post
    P.S. - Don't take this as praise, rather a post of thanks. I would not praise my brother to his face, but nothing is stopping me from thanking him in nice words, is there?
    I honestly don't know if that would still count as the same. Either way, your praise (or 'thanks') is undeserved. May Allah forgive us for our faults and increase us in khayr in the dunya and Akhirah.





    Quote Originally Posted by Salsabil Cake View Post
    Are you that guy who had a poetry thing with Yasir Qadhi?
    No.
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    And [all] faces will be humbled before the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of existence.
    And he who carries injustice will have failed.
    [20:111]

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