Blaming Hamas?
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- 30th December 2009 #681
Re: Blaming Hamas? Israel and its supporters see these international campaigns as a huge threat. Israel has escaped the sanctions that have been applied to other states which commit human rights abuses and violate international law only because the United States automatically vetoes all attempts to hold Israel accountable. Israel is also crucially dependent on huge annual inflows of foreign aid, to the point where it is conceivable that the state would collapse if the flows of outside cash which prop it up were to be withdrawn.
Anything that undermines public support in the US, Canada and Europe, therefore, threatens the external backing on which the Israeli state depends for its very existence. It is true that the governments which turn a blind eye to Israel’s violations of international law mostly ignore popular opinion in their own countries as well, but this could change if support for Israel were to become a serious political liability. In this regard, what is particularly worrisome from Israel’s point of view is the fact that support for Israel among Jews in the United States and Canada, especially among younger Jews, has declined dramatically. If Jews stop supporting Israel, then all foreign support is in jeopardy.
Threats to Israel’s international legitimacy bring with them an even greater internal danger: the danger that Israeli Jews will themselves start seeing the Zionist formula – in essence, a militarized apartheid state holding down the Palestinian population by force – as a dead end.
If working-class Israeli Jews were to see their interests as being different from those of the ruling elite – if they come round to the view that their long-term interests will be better served if they join Palestinians in working for a democratic secular state with equal rights for Palestinians and Jews – Israel’s ruling class would find itself in the same untenable position that the white elite in apartheid South Africa faced in the early 1990s. Already, Israel’s rulers are debating what to do about the “demographic threat” they are facing: Israeli Jews are leaving the country in increasing numbers to move to other countries, while the Palestinian population continues to increase.The Hawaalian Alliance
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"One of the greatest distinctions of the Salaf was indicated by ibn al-Haaj when he said words to the effect, 'In the days of the Salaf, when the masses would introduce an innovation, the scholars would take it upon themselves to expose its falsehood. As for the scholars of the Khalaf, you will find that when someone from the masses, the rulers, or the wealthy introduce an innovation, the scholars would take it upon themselves to encourage it, defend it and justify it.'
I say: he spoke most truthfully. If any of our rulers or wealthy people would like, then let him try to introduce some innovation, and then seek help from the scholars and the ascetics. He will find them rushing as fast as they can to encourage it and to distort the Book and Sunnah in order to beautify it, and to declare any who would rebut it a heretic or disbeliever, and perhaps the most pious of them is the one who takes it upon himself to remain silent. Truly, to Allah we belong and to Him we will return!" [Sh. Abd al-Rahman b. Yahya al-Mu'allimi, Kitab al-Ibadah (pp. 210-211)]
- 31st December 2009 #682
Shin Bet: 2009 had lowest terror levels in Israel this decade Shin Bet: 2009 had lowest terror levels in Israel this decade - Haaretz - Israel News
This is coming from Israeli intelligence, so it must be thiqah.
I wonder if Bassam Zawadi will recommend that the Palestinians are therefore rewarded for their good behaviour? Or, is he waiting for them to be provoked into doing something so that he can condemn them again?The Hawaalian Alliance
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عليكم بعمل الأبطال: طلب الرزق من الحلال
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- 29th May 2010 #683
Re: Blaming Hamas? Israel continues air strikes in Gaza:
IAF targets tunnel, weapons manufacturing site in Gaza air strike - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
- Some people (such as a certain Mr Zawadi) have no shame, otherwise they would be prasing Hamas for their restraint.The Hawaalian Alliance
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- 14th April 2011 #684
Re: Blaming Hamas? Part 1:
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- 3rd January 2012 #685
Re: Blaming Hamas? It is well worth reading this thread again on the third anniversary of the Gaza war to see just how and why these neo-salafis are so out of touch.
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Re: Blaming Hamas? beautiful post pluma, BEAUTIFUL!
- 11th October 2012 #687
Re: Blaming Hamas? The Hawaalian Alliance
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- 15th November 2012 #688
Re: Blaming Hamas? Good article by Glenn Greenwald.
This is a must-read for any neo-con Salafi who might possess a grain of shame.
Obama's kill list policy compels US support for Israeli attacks on Gaza | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.ukThe Hawaalian Alliance
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- 17th November 2012 #689
Re: Blaming Hamas? The Hawaalian Alliance
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Re: Blaming Hamas? ^ Some interesting quotes:
Finklestein: "Dan [the zionist on the panel] says that you can't deal with Hamas and that's why there's a siege there. Well there's also an occupation in the West Bank. Now certainly Israel can deal with the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. Afterall they pay all the bills for the Palestinian authority. The PA is on their payroll. So why haven't they been able to end the occupation of the West Bank? Why do they continue to build settlements in the West Bank? Why do they reject all the Palestinian peace overtures from the PA, their own puppet regime."
Dan: "What you call the West Bank is actually the land of our fathers. It is the homeland of the jewish people."
Finklestein: "As the head of state of Qatar promised four-hundred million dollars to Gaza, and economically things were actually improving in Gaza, many people in the West Bank were saying 'Gaza looks better than our situation' so it was time for Israel to go in and wreak havoc, mayhem once again to reduce Gaza to a desperate state."ربنا اتنا في الدنيا حسنة وفي الاخرة حسنة وقنا عذاب النار
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