Britain's New Preachers Of Hate

[Hakeem]

Did not this Abu Usama attack Sheikh Umar Abdur Rahman?
and Sheikh Abu Hamza wrote a refutation of this attack and offered his Sheikh Salim Hilali a debate which was accepted but did not go through because Salim Hilali did not turn up?

If this is the case then what is Abu Usama's position with regards to the afore mentioned sheikhs?

[waziri]

Abu Usama's differences with the madakhila are only superficial,they agree on most of the issues which are contrary to the haqq.

He gave a lecture in which he attacked shaykh Umar Abur Rahman,in which he stated that the dawah of shaykh Umar abdur Rahman is the dawah of the khawarij.

When questioned as to why the saudi leadership had allowed the crusader armies to launch their crusade from the hijaz he immediatly attacked the questioner for having his jeans rolled up and said that he shoulld cut them as to have them rolled up(Above the ankle)was incorrect.So here he used this example to compare the action of a layman to that of the saudi rulers and tried to suggest that both were guilty of not ruling according to what Allah had revealed and that it was not major kufr in both situations(what a ridiculous comparison to make).This shows the lengths that this man Abu Usama will go to in order to defend the actions of the saudi rulers,

On another occasion (after having delivered a talk on jihad)he was questioned as to which jihad in the world today did he consider to be truly fisabilillah,he became angry and refused to answer and used a narration in which one sahabi had stated that "if I were to tell you what I know I would be killed"when further questioned about the permisibility of martyrdom operations on the same occasion(the questioner used the term suicide bombings)he became more angry and started to bang on the table and said you people are trying to get me in trouble with the government and if you were my brothers you would not ask such questions.


Shaykh Abdullah has refuted this person here

http://www.streetdawah.com/faisal.html

The lecture in which he has been refuted is entitled "the devils deception of the 21st century house niggers" go down the list and click on the above named lecture.Please note that shaykh Faisal has made takfir of him in this lecture and from what I understand he has gone back on some of his takfir since this recording was made.

[Logic lover]

Abus Usama is a preacher of hate for the Mujahideen.

[Daniel]

Brother, the lectures of Abdullaah al-Faisal are full of extremism in takfeer, and I advice against spreading them around (so as not to misguide the ignorant people). In refuting the Murjee'ah in our times we shouldn't go to the other extreme, which is unrestricted takfeer. If you want a refutation of what Abu Usamah adh-Dhahabi said about Shaykh 'Omar 'Abdur-Rahmaan (faka ullaah asra), it would be better to promote the one done by Abu Hamzah (faka ullaah asra). This lecture is avaliable on http://www.aswj.eu/abuhamza.htm

[abu~Adil as somali]

o dear brothers: abi usamma is from my local masjid, and if u like to kno about the condition of aperson then u ask the people who are close to him..

the whole world has woken up to the aggression and crimes of kufar & the arab countries, we have seen over the years from one country to the nxt the war of terrier is a war againts islam, and the preachers, da'ees, imams, shieks who used to busy themselfs with fighs issues the manhaj, refutations, writin or warning againts fullan and giving to tazkiyah to a'laan, have woken up to the fact that while they are chasin these meaninless matters in a time when deen is under the fire from the kufar.Abu usaama is one of them imaams,

if you want him to endorse suicide bombing on a minbar on a friday khutba, then you are asking for trouble akhi, becuase you are more valuable to your community if you stay out of a kafir jail.

in the past 2 years i havnt seen abu usaama talk nothing but Haq, and forbiden the batiil, he has left the talk of the manhaj and focused on uniting the muslim community wher ever he is, because he has relized united we hv a voice we have a presenc and we have the strength, againts attacks from the media, and the state.

but whats stonishing is while he is being called a wahabi by media, sp calling him a khariji, and on here he is called a murji, all he does is warn the muslims of the danger of not gaining knowledge, dangers of the disunity, dangers of selling out to the kufar and he makes du'aa for the mujahdeen where ever they are.

and about 30 seconds walk from the masjid you have the SP headquaters printing our leaflets about how the mujahdeen and who ever supports them a fitna on the ummah and how abu usaama was refuted by rabee al madkhali and how he is not to be taken from. yet the haq always shines and abu usama does have the knoweldge to back up his claims.

ne way brothers..what ever mistakes abu usaama was on then may allah forgive him for it, and now from what i hv seen with my own eyes week in week out that he speaks nothing but the truth..

walahu a3laam

[Daniel]

I for one am glad to hear that Abu Usamah has left some of his more extreme positions. May Allaah keep him firm and expose the hypocrites and agents of the West.

[waziri]

Asalamualaykum akhi abu~Adil as somali,

If Abu Usama supports mujahideen then why does he attack shaykh ul Jihad Usama ibn Laden?Why does he say "we do not accept the Jihad of Usama ibn Laden"?Why doesnt he tell us which Jihad he does support?If he wants to give lectures on Jihad dont you think he should also answer questions on the subject?Why does he regard the mistakes of a layman to be the same as the saudi rulers?and if he doesnt then why does he say such things.Is it only now that he has come to realise that the kuffar are waging a war against Islam?

Why does he defend the tawagheet rulers of al saud?If he can attack a brother who has his jeans rolled up in a gathering why cant he make it clear that the saudi rulers are guilty of kuffar.

If he has changed his position on those issues he needs to make it clear and he needs to openly say so.Also a public tawbah is needed from him for the evil he spread about Shaykh Umar Abdur Rahman,for which he also stated when questioned about it that he sticks by everything that he said in that abhorrent rant.

wasalam

Ps I am not speaking from hear say I have witnessed all that I have said about him.

[Daniel]

Well speaking about jihaad in to detailed a manner could get one in trouble under the "gloification of terrorism" act I would assume. Don't expect everyone to say what we want to hear. Giving a khutbah in London or New York isn't the same as giving a khutbah in Gaza, Fallujah, or Peshawer. We should keep that in mind.

[waziri]

Yes ofcourse brother, if one can not speak the haq then let him remain silent.Why when he gives a lecture does he have to attack the leaders of Jihad in our times.

If he does not want to get into trouble then he should avoid speaking about sensitive matters instead of propagating the line of the saudi leadership.

[abu~Adil as somali]

akhi, walahi the expression stuck between a rock and a hard place comes into mind, if he speaks the haaq then he is arrested and proply kick out of the country and imprisoned under a man made up law, and his ilm, khutba's durus, and calling the people into tawheed is lost to us all, and if he stays silent the people call him sell out,working for the tawguut, and names that does not befit the man, so the best way is the middle way, know when to remin silent and know when to talk, avoid all the attention, and know your surroundings. if you get hold of his friday khutba's then akhi they all about jihad, and not about what shiek so an so says about it. but what is going on round the world, eid khutba, friday khutba's durus, every time u see him,its all about the sad affairs of the muslim ummah.

so akhi take it easy on the brother..jazakum allahu khairan..