Complete Fatwaa on September 11

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    Complete Fatwaa on September 11

    Assalamu Alaikum,


    Complete Fatwa of Shaykh Humūd al-'Uqlā(RH) after 9/11
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    Q: To proceed, Shaykh Hamūd ibn 'Abdullāh ash-Shu'aybī, there have been a lot of talks on what happened in America some supporting and blessing others opposing and condemning it. What is the correct stand in these two opinions according to your view? We similarly hope you will go into details in the issue because of the ambiguities in it.

    A: Praise is due to Allāh, Lord of the Worlds, may the salāt and salām be with the unlettered Prophet, his family, his companions and all who live according to his path till the Day of Judgment.

    Before answering the question we should know that whatever decision the non-Muslim state, America, takes - especially critical decisions which involve war - it is taken based on opinion poll and / or voting within the house of representatives and senate, which represent directly, the exact opinion of the people they represent - the people of America - through their representatives in the Parliament. Based on this, any American who voted for war is a like a fighter, or at least a supporter, as we will explain later.

    Let it also be understood that the guide and final decision on the interactions of Muslims with the Unbelievers are the Book of Allāh and the Sunnah of His Prophet may the salāt and salām be with him; And not politics or personal benefits. And the Qur'ān has explicitly explained this issue and clarified it because of its importance and danger. When we refer to the Qur'ān we realize that it has left no one in doubt nor did it leave any grey areas on this issue.

    And all the various verses which discuss this issue emphasize two things, namely al-Walā' (love and alliance) and al-Barā'ah (hate and opposition), which confirms the fact that al-Walā' and al-Barā'ah are strong pillars in the Islāmic Sharī'ah, an issue on which the scholars - both the past and contemporary - have consensus. Allāh says warning against loving the unbelievers, taking sides with them and leaning towards them:

    "O believers! Take not Jews and Christians as your (protecting) friends, they are allies of one another. Whosoever allies with them, amongst you, then he is one of them ... "

    "O Believers! Do not take My enemy and your enemy, as friends, giving them your affection ... "

    And Allāh said: "O Believers! Take not private friends from among your enemies expressing open love to them ... "

    And He said on the necessity of rejecting the unbelievers,

    " ... certainly you had an excellent example in Ibrāhīm and those with him, when they said to their people we are free from you and from whatever ye worship other than Allāh, we have rejected you hostility has stated between us and you till the Day of Judgment..."

    And the Exalted said:

    "Never will you find a people who believe in Allāh and the Last Day making friendships with those oppose Allāh and His messenger even though they were their parents or their sons ... "

    And the Exalted and praised said:

    "Say: if your parents, your children, your brothers, your wives, your kindred, the wealth you have acquired, the commerce in which you fear decline, or the dwellings you are pleased with, are dearer to you than Allāh and His Messenger and striving hard and fighting in His cause, then wait until Allāh brings His Decision. And Allāh guides not the Fāsiqūn (rebellious, disobedient)."

    These verses and tens of others are clear statements on the obligation and necessity of opposing unbelievers and hating them, as well as rejecting them. And I don't think any person with the slightest level of knowledge is ignorant of this.

    Having said this, you should know that America is a Kufr State that is totally against Islām and Muslims. In fact it has reached the peak of that arrogance in the form of open attacks on several Muslim Nations as it did in Sudān, Irāq, Afghanistān, Philistine, Libya and others, where it - America - allied with the forces of Kufr such as Britain, Russia and others in attacking and trying to exterminate them. Similarly, America expelled the Palestinians from their homes and housed the 'brothers of Pigs and Apes' in them; and stood firmly in support of the criminal Zionist State of the Jews, giving them all they need in the form of wealth, weapons and training.

    How then can America after all these things not be considered an enemy of the Muslim Nations and at war with them?

    But, because they have reached the peak of tyranny and arrogance; because they have seen the collapse of the Soviet Union in the hands of the Muslims in Afghanistān, they thought that they are the Ultimate Power above which there is no power. Unfortunately, they forgot that Allāh, the Exalted and Mighty, is stronger than them and can humble and destroy them.

    On the other hand, it is unfortunate and disturbing to see that a lot of fellow scholars have preferred the side of mercy and emotion and forgotten or ignored what that Kufr Nation (America) is doing such as killing, destroying and spoiling most of the Muslim Lands, and showing no mercy or kindness in that.

    Consequently, I find it incumbent upon me to refute some false claims and misconceptions that some fellow scholars are relying upon in trying to support their positions.

    MISCONCEPTION No. 1

    One of them is what I heard from some of them, " ... that we have agreements and pacts between us and America and hence it is binding on us to fulfil them."

    My response to this is from two points of view:

    1. The person saying this has already concluded that it is Muslims who committed the act, and up to now, no proof of law has been established to the effect that Muslims are behind the attack, or that they participated in it, in which case it may be said that they have broken the covenant.

    So, since, it is yet to be established that we committed the act, nor that we did partake in its execution, how then can it be said that we have broken the 'Pact'?

    Of course expressing our hatred for those unbelievers and rejecting them has nothing to do with breaking covenants or pacts. It is just something Allāh has compelled upon us in clear texts of His Glorious Book.

    2. Even if we accept that there are covenants and pacts between Muslims and America, why then did America not fulfil its side of the agreement?

    Why has it not stopped its aggression and harming a lot of Muslims? Is it not an established fact that: all pacts are binding on both parties; and that whenever they do not fulfil their roles, the pact becomes invalid and the covenant broken? Allāh the Exalted said:

    "But if they break their covenants after its solemnizing it, and attack your religion, then, fight ye the leaders of Kufr, for they (deserve) no covenant ... "

    MISCONCEPTION No. 2

    They say that: " ... among the victims were some, innocent and sinless."

    Response to this is from several points of view:

    1. Sa'ab bin Jathamah (may Allāh be pleased with him) reported from that the Prophet was asked about the people in the homes of Mushrikūn (Polytheists) when they are attacked at night and their women and children are affected, he said: "they are part of them".

    So, this hadīth shows that women, children and all those the killing of whom is forbidden, when they are separate, it is permissible to kill them when they are mixed up with the fighters and it is not possible to separate. This is because they had asked the Prophet about the case which is "attacking at night", in which case it is not possible to differentiate, and he permitted them because "things may be allowed when they occur along the way but be forbidden when separate."

    2. Also, Muslim commanders have always used Catapult when fighting the Kuffar (a kind of weapon that was used in the past when trying to break into an enemy camp which is fully fortressed - it destroys whatever it meets by its weight, i.e. something like a catapult - translator), and it is obvious that a Catapult when applied in a war does not differentiate between a fighter and others, hence it may afflict some those so-called 'innocent souls', but that not withstanding this is an established practice among Muslims in their wars.

    Ibn Qudāmah, may Allāh have mercy on him, said: "And it is permissible to use the Catapult because the Prophet may the salāt and salām be with him used Catapult on the people of Tā'if; and Amr bin al-Âs did the same to the people of Alexandria." (Al-Mughnī, vol. 10, p503)

    And Ibn al-Qāsim said, " ... it is permissible to use the Catapult against Kuffar even if children, women and old men and monks are killed inadvertently, because Nikayah (doing what will weaken the enemy) is allowed according to the consensus of the Ulamāh. Ibn Rushd said: 'Nikayah is permissible according to Ijmā' and on any type of polytheists.' " (Al-Hashiyah ala' Ar-Raudh, vol. 4, p 271)

    Here, there is a question we will like to ask those who use the word "Terrorism" on what happened in America, and I want their reply.

    The question is: When America attacked a Pharmaceutical firm in Sudan, using its planes and bombs, destroying it and killing everybody in it, staff and labourers, what was this called? Shouldn't the action of America in the Sudanese firm be considered as an act of terrorism? Else how can what those people did in America be treated as an act of terrorism? Why is everybody condemning and rejecting what was done to those buildings in America and yet we did not hear any such condemnations on the destruction caused by America in the Sudanese firm?

    I certainly don't see any difference between the two acts, except that the money that was used in building the firm is Muslims' and the workers and staff killed by destroying the firm were Muslims; Whereas, the buildings destroyed by those hijackers was built with the money of non-Muslims and the victims of the explosion were non-Muslims.

    So, is this the difference that made some fellow brothers to call what happened in America 'Terrorism'!! While at the same time they neither condemned what happened in Sudan, nor called it TERRORISM?

    Similarly, what happened to the Libyans of deliberate and imposed 'starvation'; 'starvation' of the Irāqis plus almost daily attacks; the sanctions and attacks launched against Afghanistān, a Muslim Nation: all these, why are they not termed "terrorism"? What else can we term them if not terrorism?

    In addition, we should ask those people, what do you mean by "innocent and sinless"?

    Those are one of three categories/groups:

    The first category:

    They may be among those who neither fought, nor supported their country by their persons, wealth or opinion and suggestions or anything else. It is not permissible to kill this category, on condition that they can be differentiated from the rest, but if they are mixed up such that they can't be separated, then it is allowed to kill them along with the others and by extension, like old men, women, children, the sick and the disabled or devoted monks.

    Ibn Qudāmah said: "It is allowed to kill women and children in night attacks and in demolished buildings or ditches, so far as the intention is not to kill them in particular; And it is allowed to kill their (the enemies') animals as a means for killing and subduing them; there is no difference of opinion on this." (Al-Mughnī, with the Sharh - commentary, 10/503)

    Similarly he said: "It is permissible to attack enemies at night. Ahmad bin Hanbal said: 'there is no problem with night attacks, were the Romans not attacked at night?' And he said: 'we don't know anybody who disliked night attacks' " (Al-Mughnī 10/503)

    The second category: Or, they (the victims) may be part of those who did not participate directly in the war but helped with their wealth or opinions, these cannot be called "innocent", nay they are among the fighters and part of the strength of the enemy.

    Ibn Abdil-Barr may Allāh has mercy on him, said in Al-Istizkar: "There is no dispute among the scholars that whoever fights among women or old men, killing him is allowed, similarly, any child capable of fighting , if he does may be killed." (Al-Istizkar vol. 14, p 74).

    Similarly, Ibn Qudāmah reported the Ijmā' on killing women, children and old men if they help their people; Ibn Abdil-Barr said: "They have a consensus on the fact that the Prophet killed Duraid on the Day of the Battle of Hunayn because he was an experienced in war and contributed his opinions. Thus whoever is like that among old men deserves to be killed according to all (scholars)." (At-Tamhīd, vol. 16 p 142)

    And an-Nawawī, may Allāh have mercy on him related the Ijmā' (in Sharh Sahīh Muslim in "the Book of Jihād") that elderly men among the non-Muslims should be killed if they have knowledge of war strategies.

    Ibn Qāsim also quoted in Al-Hashiyat that: " ... they had Ijmā' that the ruling concerning any strategist is that of any fighter in Jihād. This Ijmā' was reported from Ibn Taymiyyah. Similarly, he related from Ibn Taymiyyah that "those who assist a group and their helpers are (to be considered) part of them, in whatever is for or against them."

    The third Category:

    Or they may be Muslims, and it is not permissible for these to be killed separately; But when they are mixed up with others in such a way that they have to be killed with them, then it is allowed, and these is the case known as 'Mas'alatut Tatarrus' (when non-Muslims hold Muslims as shield against attack), which was discussed earlier.

    Thus, what many are babbling and repeating on the case of the "innocent victims", is nothing but the effect of the West and its media, to the extent that many an unwary person repeats the words and expressions of our enemies, which are in direct contradiction with the expressions of Sharī'ah.

    Let us not, also, forget that it is permissible for us to treat non-Muslims similar to the way they treated us; and in this there is a reply and clear proof to all those who repeat the words "innocent victims", because Allāh the Exalted has made that. Among the texts on that:

    "Thus, if you retaliate, retaliate with what equals the aggression afflicted upon you" and He said:

    "...and those whom, when an aggression afflicts them, they revenge, but the reward of an evil is an evil equal to it."

    Also among the sayings of scholars on the permissibility of taking revenge:

    Ibn Taymiyyah said: " ... it is their right to mutilate. So it is their right to do it in revenge and payback in the same coins, OR they may waive it, but patience is better. This is in a case where the mutilation does not lead to a gain in the Jihād, and it is not for an equal treatment from them (the enemies); But when mutilating them will lead to their accepting the faith or warn them against another aggression, then, it is - in this case - part of recommended Jihād and retribution." (This was quoted
    by Ibn Muflih in Al-Furu' vol.6 p.218)

    Else, whoever says that there are "innocent victims" without any differentiation between their categories, must accept that he is accusing the Prophet and the Companions and those after them that they killed "innocent victims", according to them! Because the Prophet used Catapult in his war against Tā'if, and it is the nature of Catapult that it does not differentiate.

    Similarly, the Prophet sallallāhu 'alayhi wa sallam killed all whom those who had attained puberty among the Jews of Banī Quraydah without differentiating between them.

    Ibn Hazm, commenting on the hadīth that "Banū Quraidah were paraded before the Prophet, and he ordered the killing of all those who had attained puberty," said: " ... this is a general ruling from the Prophet, since he did not leave out an old man, a merchant, a farmer or any other person; this was related from him with genuine Ijmaa' " (Al-Muhallā vol. 6 p. 299)

    Ibn al-Qayyim said in 'Zādul Ma'ād': "it is part of his guidance (i.e. the Prophet's) that whenever he made a pact with some people and they broke the covenant, or some of them broke the agreement, and the rest supported them on that, and accepted it; he fights all of them and considers all as having broken the covenant. As he did to Banū Qurayzah and Banū an-Nadhīr and Banū Qaynuqa', and as he treated the people of Makkah. So this is Sunnah (method or approach to those who betray their covenants."

    Similarly, he said: "Ibn Taymiyyah has certainly ruled that the Christians of Mashriq should be fought when they assisted the enemies of the Muslims against them, and helped them with their wealth and weapons, despite the fact that they did not did not fight us. He considered them to have broken the covenant as Quraysh did during the time of the Prophet by helping Banū Bakr bin Wa'il in fighting those in alliance with the prophet."

    In conclusion, we all know that the non Muslim west, especially America will definitely seize this opportunity and utilize that in its favour and through fresh injustice to the Muslims in Afghanistān and Palestine, Chechnya and other areas, whoever the perpetrators may be. And they will try to eradicate Jihād and those who engage in it and it will never succeed; and they will do that in the name of fighting Terrorism; and they will go ahead and fight our brothers in faith, in the Talibān ruled, Muslim Nation of Afghanistān, the only nation that has given a cover for genuine Mujāhidīn and assists them at a time when everybody has forsaken them, and who never bowed down to the Non-Muslim Western nations.

    Thus, it is compulsory to assist this Islāmic Nation in Jihād, with whatever we can Allāh the Exalted says:

    "The Believers, men and women, are helpers of one another,"

    And He said, "Help each other in righteousness and obedience"

    Thus, it is compulsory to assist them with wealth and persons and opinions and advices and through the Media by defending them and their honour and their public image; and through prayers for them that they vanquish the enemy and have steadfastness.

    And like we said, it is compulsory upon all Muslims to help the Talibān Government it is also equally compulsory upon the Muslim Governments especially the neighbouring countries to assist them against the Kufr of the West.

    And let those know that that failing to assist Talibān that is being fought for its religion and because of the help it gives to Mujāhidīn and, assisting the kuffar against them is the kind of friendship and support of the kuffar that Allāh warned against when He said:

    "Believers, take not my enemy and your enemy as friends in whom you put love."

    And He said "Believers take not my enemy and yours as protecting friends."

    Certainly it will go down in history that these countries betrayed their brothers and it will remain as a kind of bad record on them and their people that will remain forever!!

    Similarly let those neighbouring and nearby countries beware that if they refuse to help the brothers and allowed the enemy to attack them, that Allāh may face them with His Natural Disasters and terrible situations as a punishment and chastisement on them. The Prophet said a Muslim is a brother of a Muslim, he does not forsake or betray him ... and he also said in a hadīth Qudsī: "Allāh said "Whoever fights my Friend should get ready for war with Me And He said "Whoever allowed a Muslim to be humiliated while he could assist him, Allāh will humiliate him in front of the entire creation on the Day of Judgment." (reported by Ahmad).

    And we wish to remind the Pakistan Government that allowing the Americans, the enemies of Muslims, to use their land is not informed by wisdom nor borne out of experience politics at all because it will lead to giving the opportunity for America to discover their secrets of their country and know the location of its nuclear power with all precision and something that has terrified the West, and that may lead to the Americans giving the Jews the chance to attack the Nuclear Plants in Pakistan as they did those of Irāq earlier. And why does Pakistan trust America is enemy that has been warning and warning them!

    I really think that the reasonable personalities in Pakistan will not allow it, not to mention their Good Muslims will ever accept this nor will they just fold their arms and watch surrender to their enemies of yesterday.

    We pray to Allāh that He helps His Religion and raises His Word and exalts Islām and the Muslims and the Mujāhidīn and to destroy America and its followers and those who assist them. Verily He has that Power and is Able to do so.

    Wa-sallāhu wa-sallam 'alā Muhammad wa aalihi wa sahbihi was-sallam

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    Imaam Hamood bin 'Uqlaa was ignorant about 9-11.

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    Course he was.

    He didnt have access to "whatreallyhappened.com"
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    NINE hijackers are still alive!

    Waleed M. Alshehri is an Saudi airlines pilot in Casa Blanca Morocco!

    Wail M. Alshehri is alive and well

    Abdulaziz Alomari is also a pilot at Saudi airlines living in Saudi Arabia

    Marwan Al-Shehhi is alive and well in Saudi Arabia

    Khalid Almihdhar is a computer programmer in Mecca

    Salem Alhazmi works in a chemical plant in Saudi Arabia

    Saeed Alghamdi is trained to be a pilot in Tunis

    Ahmed Alghamdi is an administrator supervisor for Saudi airlines

    Mohamed Atta, last but not least, Mohamed Atta’s father claims to have received a phone call of his son on September the 12th!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansoor Ali View Post
    NINE hijackers are still alive!

    Waleed M. Alshehri is an Saudi airlines pilot in Casa Blanca Morocco!

    Wail M. Alshehri is alive and well

    Abdulaziz Alomari is also a pilot at Saudi airlines living in Saudi Arabia

    Marwan Al-Shehhi is alive and well in Saudi Arabia

    Khalid Almihdhar is a computer programmer in Mecca

    Salem Alhazmi works in a chemical plant in Saudi Arabia

    Saeed Alghamdi is trained to be a pilot in Tunis

    Ahmed Alghamdi is an administrator supervisor for Saudi airlines

    Mohamed Atta, last but not least, Mohamed Atta’s father claims to have received a phone call of his son on September the 12th!
    And Tupac Shakur is chilling in the Dominican Republic as a cab driver.

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    And Tupac Shakur is chilling in the Dominican Republic as a cab driver.
    I heard he once gave Notorious B.I.G. a ride for free.

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    And Elvis is working in the pizza shop down bury park

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    Lol! You brothers are hilarious!

    Brother Mansoor Ali, and you got this sensitive information from where exactly? Some nutjob website?

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    Brother Mansoor Ali, and you got this sensitive information from where exactly? Some nutjob website?
    1)Those dust clouds that we saw chasing people all over Manhattan are perfectly normal in the collapse of a building so long as the collapse is done with high explosives.

    2)Indeed, until September 11th only volcanic eruptions and high explosives have been able to achieve this pulverizing of material into a pyroclastic flow.

    3)Evidently the hundreds of firemen and policeman and citizens and reporters at ground zero were all mistaken about all of the huge explosions they saw, heard, felt and then described.

    4)They want you to ignore the fact that no steel framed sky scraper had ever collapsed due to fire until September 11th when suddenly 3 steel framed sky scrapers collapsed within hours of each other. Don't forget - a plane never hit this building:



    They hope you do not see the video of building 7 that collapsed into a pile of rubble at around free fall speed and compare that collapse to another video of a controlled demolition.


    5)They want you to ignore other steel framed sky scrapers that had fires burning in them that were much hotter and burned many hours longer almost completely gutting the building yet when the smoke cleared there was no collapse or any stack of floors from a pancake experience.

    6)They want you to believe them when they tell you that 47 separate steel columns which made up the core of the building was actually a hollow steel shaft. They hope you don’t understand that even given their insulting pancake theory there should have been these massive support columns sticking hundreds of feet up into the air but somehow these massive columns were also shredded into pieces 30 feet or less conveniently ready to be loaded onto trucks.

    7)"No, there were no explosions at the World trade center" gushes the official conspiracy theory. "There were no bombs in the buildings it was refined kerosene burning for 102 and 56 minutes in the North and South towers respectively.

    8)You see erm... what happened was em, the steel, it got hot because well, you know it was a lot of jet fuel in there burning, and the hot fire got hotter, all at the same time those, err that central core was hit real hard probably made the hot fire even hotter, support was on the perimeter was actually the buildings support because of those winds that blow hard, then it heated enough well the fire was really hot and these are really big and really heavy buildings so when the light weight steel trusses were exposed so long to the fire then of course it has to turn the concrete to powder, oh and the stuff on the steel fell off so without the fire proofing material well you know it probably fell off, lots of the steel stuff fell off so the steel don't get to hot but it must have fell off, so it was inevitable because its clear that nothing could have survived those hot hot jet fuel fires. You know it was jet fuel burning in there, really hot jet fuel, and furniture and whatnot. Lots of hot hot burning stuff was burning in there real hot.....

    9)Indeed, those raging fires in those black holes carved out by the airplanes heated the trusses evenly enough and hot enough to where hundreds of beams gave at the same exact moment thus causing total collapse via the pancake theory.

    10)They don’t want you to ask them where a photo can be seen showing this stack of floors otherwise you may begin to understand that those floors were made up of a light weight concrete and they were blown to smithereens causing the volcanic like clouds otherwise known as a pyroclastic flow.

    11)They want you to believe that the keystone flight traffic controllers were on duty that day botching all four opportunities to scramble fighter jets even though they successfully scrambled those same fighters 67 times that year.

    12)They hope you forget that the television coverage on September 11th didn’t show an airplane at the pentagon. They hope you will buy the amazing story that for the first time in aviation history the airplane vaporized due to the heat of the fire.

    13)Please do not ask how a Boeing 757 with a wingspan of 125 feet, a height of 44 feet and a length of 155 feet disappeared into a 16 foot diameter hole then vaporized and left no wreckage on the outside of the building.

    14)They hope you will not connect the dots when they say they recovered most of the human remains at the pentagon, and carried out DNA testing, even though the airplane itself vaporized.
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    Akh Mansour, was electricity, gas etc cut off to the WTC? at any point?

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