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Debates with Mona (Shaytaana) regarding the Niqab ban.

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    Default Debates with Mona (Shaytaana) regarding the Niqab ban.

    Remember to lower your gaze when the Shaytaana comes on.




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    Default Re: Debates with Mona (Shaytaana) regarding the Niqab ban.

    When I try to argue against that, I am somehow not pious enough
    So a Muslimah who covers herself and another one who doesn't are equal?

    lol funny how she said "Salafi ideology behind the niqab" What does she know about the Salaf?
    Last edited by أبو جنبية; 13th April 2011 at 05:54 AM.
    الإمام ابن القيم الجوزية رحمه الله فقال: بل الدين كله هو الخلق، فمن زاد عليك في الخلق، فقد زاد عليك في الدين
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    Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah رحمه الله said: Religion consists entirely of good character (الدين كله هو الخلق). Whoever surpasses you in good character surpasses you in religion.
    اللهم يا مقلب القلوب ثبت قلوبنا على دينك

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    Default Re: Debates with Mona (Shaytaana) regarding the Niqab ban.

    So sad that a Kafir host is debating in favor of our Women, and supposedly a "Muslimah" is saying Niqab is out of Islam, and it is forced by right wing Salafis.
    الإمام ابن القيم الجوزية رحمه الله فقال: بل الدين كله هو الخلق، فمن زاد عليك في الخلق، فقد زاد عليك في الدين
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    Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah رحمه الله said: Religion consists entirely of good character (الدين كله هو الخلق). Whoever surpasses you in good character surpasses you in religion.
    اللهم يا مقلب القلوب ثبت قلوبنا على دينك

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    Default Re: Debates with Mona (Shaytaana) regarding the Niqab ban.

    Nicely put in a comment:

    Mona Lisa claims that the Niqabi women are invisible. Ironically, she has a debate with a Niqabi on TV and loses, badly.

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    Default Re: Debates with Mona (Shaytaana) regarding the Niqab ban.

    I hear this argument put forth in many discussions such that facial expressions are essential to communication. IF that would be absolutely true in every case, then why can't I say that forget facial expression, I think body movement and curvy figures are just as important as well. Who is to stop me from saying that it's not true in some cases? All the Western Entertainment channels use this technique. The point here is the inconsistency in their philosophical arguments. They can never say in the absolute sense because their judgments are limited. What's sufficient to one, is insufficient to another.

    And to stupid Mona, someone needs to question her about the guidelines about interacting with the opposite genders in Islam. Are we not told as Muslims to lower our gazes when speaking to the opposite gender? There are ahadeeth about these issues which form an understanding that when speaking to the opposite gender, we should lower out gazes. There are so many scholarly articles about this. And this ignorant lady is speaking about the Deen. Such sheer audacity! Honestly, WHY can't this stupid person be put on a debate with a shaikh? I'd love to see her respond to a hadeeth and start to mumble jibberish in trying to refute the hadeeth which she has no knowledge of. Imagine a scenario where the shaikh gives tafaseer of the various ayaat which talks about women covering and how some of the salaf understood the verses to mean such and such. It would really put people like this to shame to show how little they know and they boast about being a spokesman for Islam.
    اماما اماما اماما... جنود الفدا...
    اعدوا الشباب ليوم النداء...
    اعيدوا اعيدوا اعيدوا... الي الحق سلطانه

    When people start hiding the truth in fear for their safety, how will it ever manifest to those seeking it?

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    Default Re: Debates with Mona (Shaytaana) regarding the Niqab ban.

    Subhan Allah that sister Hiba really owned that she-devil.
    أَوَمَن كَانَ مَيْتًا فَأَحْيَيْنَاهُ وَجَعَلْنَا لَهُ نُورًا يَمْشِي بِهِ فِي النَّاسِ كَمَن مَّثَلُهُ فِي الظُّلُمَاتِ لَيْسَ بِخَارِجٍ مِّنْهَا كَذَٰلِكَ زُيِّنَ لِلْكَافِرِينَ مَا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ


    {“And is one who was dead and We gave him life and made for him light by which to walk among the people like one who is in darkness, never to emerge therefrom? Thus it has been made pleasing to the disbelievers that which they were doing.’”}

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    Default Re: Debates with Mona (Shaytaana) regarding the Niqab ban.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Shawarma View Post
    Subhan Allah that sister Hiba really owned that she-devil.
    Indeed she did, so did the host. may Allah open his heart to Islam.
    الإمام ابن القيم الجوزية رحمه الله فقال: بل الدين كله هو الخلق، فمن زاد عليك في الخلق، فقد زاد عليك في الدين
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    Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah رحمه الله said: Religion consists entirely of good character (الدين كله هو الخلق). Whoever surpasses you in good character surpasses you in religion.
    اللهم يا مقلب القلوب ثبت قلوبنا على دينك

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    Default Re: Debates with Mona (Shaytaana) regarding the Niqab ban.

    This Mona is a product of Egypt. Remember, Tantawi, former grand mufti of Egypt, said niqab is not from Islam.
    Many of these Egyptian secularists are claiming Salafi are the boogeyman going to take over.

    Mubarak and his legacy of thulm have created a generation of warped Egyptians who don't understand Islam properly and contort the Deen to submit to Western ideological guidance.

    Subhanna Allah.

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    Default Re: Debates with Mona (Shaytaana) regarding the Niqab ban.

    BTW, Muslims need to stop only reacting and defending Islam and start on the offensive.


    France legalizes fornication, adultery, prostitution, porn. It has sex slavery and sex trafficking which it can't contain.
    France is dominates world fashion by having a multibillion dollar high fashion industry in which immoral, eccentric men dominate and influence what women wear.
    As well, France's parliement is dominated by men who voted on banning niqab as well as legalizing all of this debauchery. French men stand to profit and pleasure themselves from this and women are the ones who suffer.

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    Default Re: Debates with Mona (Shaytaana) regarding the Niqab ban.

    I guess this is more interesting... )))


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