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    Default Disgusting: UCL Athiest Society post cartoons of Prophets Muhammad and Jesus having a beer.

    This is very important, not much awareness has been raised about this. An absolutely disgusting act by the Athiest society at the University College London.

    Because of them going unchallenged they have even gone as far as to create a website: Jesus and Mo

    This is their Facebook page: Log in | Facebook

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    Default Re: Disgusting: UCL Athiest Society post cartoons of Prophets Muhammad and Jesus having a beer.

    Just ignore it.

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    Default Re: Disgusting: UCL Athiest Society post cartoons of Prophets Muhammad and Jesus having a beer.

    How very UCLess..proper tools to incite people with this,there will be fallout..
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    Such spineless provocation, before then pleading the 'victim card'... Ends justify the means for these people sadly, wonder where they inherited that from.

    What is the Islamic response to this? What are our positions on the idea of 'freedom of expression', 'censorship' etc and the idea that they are free to offend anyone they like, which is due to their lust to cynically ridicule everything that doesn't adhere to their discourse, in order to desensitise it, make it a subject of easy mockery and remove its value or seriousness as a threat to their desired academic, social and essentially spheric dominance?

    Growing up with people like this, they are the most deceptive people, yet they know how to 'play the game'. They say or use one excuse or piece of rhetoric, whilst meaning and aiming for something completely different. They have a very strong infrastructure behind them, they are within a framework which contrary to the rubbish they come out with about 'having it hard', supports and empowers them, and diminishes and sidelines others. They also have the popular support, especially in the fanboy's who worship the leaders of new-atheism and neo-secular humanism, much because of how society is set up today and what it educates in people, along with how Western culture has panned out.
    They felt that after Christianity, and the weakness of 'Philosophy', there was a one way street of inevitability for them towards dominant rational scientism, yet then Islam entered the public eye and the intellectual spotlight, and they have to repeat all their "backward, intellectually stagnant, ignorant, deluded, brainwashed..'enter Insult here' " syllabus again.

    They are used to being told and feeling intellectually and culturally superior, and having a solid case for and apparently justified view of the 'other' as the opposite. You are asking a people who do not recognise what 'respect' is. It, as they say themselves, 'offends them' when a Muslim dares to ask someone not to attack that which defines their identity and honour in such a way as they do. Everything that stands in their way offends them. Of course, they know how to put arguments together very well- and complexity and sophistication equates to truth for many. So when they put their cleverly concocted storyboards together, they clap and cheer, looking in the mirror and praising their own apparent genius. Then, when someone dares retort, which PZ Myers made a point of jesting about, they put together some more winding wordplay, before looking in the mirror again and praising their own apparent genius. And they say arrogance is at its most potent before the fall, yet at its most unrecognisable to the arrogant as well.

    Yet I am wondering myself, what is the appropriate and accurate response to this sort of thing Islamically. Seeing as the atheists were not just bored one Saturday afternoon, but strategically planned what they did for a reason, we then have to realise that they are setting traps for others- if they react- 'put them in their place legally and academically', or use its a propaganda and PR. If they don't react, 'we have weakened them and pacified them, which allows us to do it again in a more strong manner and take it the next step in solidifying our ethics.

    Part of the problem sometimes, past the universally expected fallout, is that we become as the opposition defines us, because we are ignorant of ourselves and the appropriate method of dealing with such problems. Yet to add to this, one of the great disasters of today is that many design their reactions according to a position of 'how well it will be taken'- i.e, does it look good, will they like it, will it go down well etc, which is generally highly defeatist, because one who knows who he is and has no shame standing up for his values, will take whatever fallout that comes out of it, and not care for the struggle he has to go through with such horrible people anyway. Sadly we live in the age of media spotlight and the ridiculous sensationalist culture.
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    Default Re: Disgusting: UCL Athiest Society post cartoons of Prophets Muhammad and Jesus having a beer.

    May Allah guide them, and if he doesn't guide them may he humiliate them and take them FAR away from us
    Ali ibn Abi Talib once said ''Do not take someones silence as his pride, perhaps he is busy fighting with his self''

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    Default Re: Disgusting: UCL Athiest Society post cartoons of Prophets Muhammad and Jesus having a beer.

    I don't get it; what exactly is the joke supposed to be?

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    Default Re: Disgusting: UCL Athiest Society post cartoons of Prophets Muhammad and Jesus having a beer.

    Quote Originally Posted by abdulmuhsee View Post
    I don't get it; what exactly is the joke supposed to be?
    There is no joke here akhee, just some people trying to show their hatred.

    I haven't taken a look at the website in question (don't wanna give it 'hits') but their FB page is busy and filled with a lot of nonsense.
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    Wow how progressive these retarded pseudo intellectuals are. May they get a condition where they constantly poo their pants
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    Default Re: Disgusting: UCL Athiest Society post cartoons of Prophets Muhammad and Jesus having a beer.

    Unfortunately the law is on the side of atheists when it comes to freedom of speech and expression. It isn't on the side of Muslims which means a verbal counter attack will end up as a hate crime.

    Muslims need to learn to 'play the game' like the atheists have learned to do.

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    Default Re: Disgusting: UCL Athiest Society post cartoons of Prophets Muhammad and Jesus having a beer.

    Find out if there are any hizbis that go to UCL or other muslims that are into debates with atheists and secularist
    You need to have some form of intellectual muslim response to these fools to
    a) Show the student body in general that muslims can respond to the atheist/secularist irrational arguments.
    b) Give muslims on campus the confidence to counter their claims against islam, the messengers and the quraan
    c) Prevent their message from attracting jahil muslims

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