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FSA fighting for democracy? FSA vs Mujaheeden?

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    As the title says: "FSA fighting for democracy? FSA vs Mujaheeden?"
    In a interview given by former hostage: Dutch freelance photographer Jeroen Oerlemans. (interview at: The Official IA Syrian Uprising Thread)
    The Photographer says he was freed by FSA from Mujaheeden and that they (the FSA) are fighting for democracy.
    Is there any substance to this claim?
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    Default Re: FSA fighting for democracy? FSA vs Mujaheeden?

    There is likely to be, to say the least, some elements within the FSA, who want a 'western style democracy'. Such conclusion can be drawn fairly easily, I would suggest. If you look at the situation in Libya, we saw brothers declaring takbir, performing their salah and so on, in the battlefield. However, those who are running the country (or a big segment of them) are not declaring that takbir in real sense (ie. not ruling by the sharia).
    Do they not then consider the Quran carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much contradictions (Quran 4:82)

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    I do realize that there are some elements that want and are fighting for democracy, but the question is how many of FSA are in that category, 10% or 80%?
    If they fight for democracy then Hell is a befitting place for them, if they are fighting for Islam then inshallah they shall have paradise.
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    Default Re: FSA fighting for democracy? FSA vs Mujaheeden?

    The FSA are a mixture of Muslims, 'Alawi, Secularists, Marxists, etc. They are not an exclusively-islamic organization nor are they organized in such a manner that their ultimate goal is the establishment of the deen. Sure, there may be some amongst them who are upon sunnah and are fighting against Bashar's forces sincerely, hoping for an Islamic ends, but the FSA movement in general is not an Islamic movement, lacks structure, and has no exit strategy after Bashar's downfall.

    Regardless, may Allah give victory to the Muslims in ash-Shaam, and destroy the oppressors, ameen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acekhurasaan View Post
    The FSA are a mixture of Muslims, 'Alawi, Secularists, Marxists, etc. They are not an exclusively-islamic organization nor are they organized in such a manner that their ultimate goal is the establishment of the deen. Sure, there may be some amongst them who are upon sunnah and are fighting against Bashar's forces sincerely, hoping for an Islamic ends, but the FSA movement in general is not an Islamic movement, lacks structure, and has no exit strategy after Bashar's downfall.

    Regardless, may Allah give victory to the Muslims in ash-Shaam, and destroy the oppressors, ameen.
    That made it a bit clearer.
    The next question to ask is the size of the FSA in relation to the other groups, are they the main force of the resistance or is there role overplayed by the media.
    Such questions as these may seem to be basal, but are very important to the understanding on what makes up the resistance and who is really fighting the fight.
    The media can not be trusted, especial in these matters regarding Islam and Muslims.
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    Brother Ibn Ibrahmim, jazakAllah for this post! You are absolutely right, if they fight for democracy, then Hell is a befitting place for them! May Allah (swt) protect our brave mujahideen and may He give them victory over the Nusayris and the apostates.

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    Default Re: FSA fighting for democracy? FSA vs Mujaheeden?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn Ibrahim View Post
    As the title says: "FSA fighting for democracy? FSA vs Mujaheeden?"
    In a interview given by former hostage: Dutch freelance photographer Jeroen Oerlemans. (interview at: The Official IA Syrian Uprising Thread)
    The Photographer says he was freed by FSA from Mujaheeden and that they (the FSA) are fighting for democracy.
    Is there any substance to this claim?

    If that story is story wouldn't that make the FSA mujahideen and the kidnappers plain and simple bandits...?
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    Default Re: FSA fighting for democracy? FSA vs Mujaheeden?

    we tend to look at this wars from afar as if everyone is the same

    but even if you look at the usa, uk, or almost any other country on earth, if there were a rebellion to overthrow the government, there would be all types of people, groups, neighborhoods,

    right wing, left wing, thugs, militia, soldiers of fortune, etc,

    thats why you cannot just go by videos, because the news can interview anyone, either with a purpose or just by chance, and that person may say the right thing or the complete wrong thing

    i was watching the egyptian uprising, one day, you would hear a feminist, the next day, a brother who wanted sharia, and the day after, a communist/socialist type

    all types of people and groups wanted hosni out and all types want bashar out

    we hope and pray to Allah that Islam comes out victorious. whereas the kuffar are hoping for a western puppet regime comes into power
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    Default Re: FSA fighting for democracy? FSA vs Mujaheeden?

    Quote Originally Posted by acekhurasaan View Post
    The FSA are a mixture of Muslims, 'Alawi, Secularists, Marxists, etc. They are not an exclusively-islamic organization nor are they organized in such a manner that their ultimate goal is the establishment of the deen. Sure, there may be some amongst them who are upon sunnah and are fighting against Bashar's forces sincerely, hoping for an Islamic ends, but the FSA movement in general is not an Islamic movement, lacks structure, and has no exit strategy after Bashar's downfall.

    Regardless, may Allah give victory to the Muslims in ash-Shaam, and destroy the oppressors, ameen.
    I don't know about marxists and secularists, but I'm pretty sure they're all stoptheslaughterofmyfamily-ists.
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    Default Re: FSA fighting for democracy? FSA vs Mujaheeden?

    interesting, i just read an interview with one of the thugs, and he said that he was doing this to protect the alawites because if the sunnis ever came into power, they would make his women cover and close the bars

    of course, this was just one interview, with one person, and you never know the full truth, but if there were so many other underlying forces, were they all against bashar and victims of his brutality, or was he mainly focusing on the religious muslims?
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