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    In the name of Allah the Most Merciful, the Most Beneficent

    Abu Mansur Al-Amriki: A Candid Clarification

    17-12-2012

    In the last few months the story of Abu Mansur Al-Amriki has been playing out in the media circles, not only feeding the narrative of the Western media that deep ideological differences were beginning to devour the Mujahideen in Somalia, but also leaving the Muslim Ummah extraordinarily confounded with a string of video releases that have stimulated a wide range of diverse reactions.


    In the light of these events, and for the sake of clarification of the intricacies surrounding the Abu Mansur saga, Harakat Al-Shabaab Al-Mujahideen hereby declares that Abu Mansur Al-Amriki does not, in any way, shape or form, represent the views of the Muhajireen in Somalia. The opinions expressed by Abu Mansur, the alleged frictions and the video releases are merely the results of personal grievances that stem purely from a narcissistic pursuit of fame and are far removed from the reality on the ground.


    Following the footsteps of the Noble Messenger, Muhammad (may peace and blessings be upon him) and the pious predecessors before them, the Mujahideen remain faithful to the lofty aspirations of their faith, strengthened by the bond of brotherhood, motivated by the rewards of altruistic self-sacrifice for their Muhajireen brothers and their path illuminated by the creed of Al Walaa-Wal-Baraa (Alliance and Enmity). The Jihadi theatre nevertheless accommodates people of all sorts. Some, above others, occasionally rise to prominence often with little merit save for their uniqueness, and contrary to portrait of the grand strategist, recruiter and fund-raiser portrayed by the Western media, Abu Mansur Al-Amriki does not hold any position of authority within Harakat Al-Shabaab Al Mujahideen.


    Despite their fair share of surprise at the turn of events, however, the Mujahideen did not immediately rush to reprimand him, but instead saw it appropriate to lean towards the noble path of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) in resolving the situation: that is Naseeha or giving advice to the brother.


    To err is human, but Islamic Shariah has carved for us a clearly defined path for dealing with disputes should they arise and remedying the mistakes of our fellow Muslim brothers. For months the Mujahideen have been offering advice to Abu Mansur in private, without publicly rebuking him, employing every possible avenue to veil his faults, overlook his shortcomings and conceal the egregious errors hed committed from the eyes of the Muslim Ummah, in the hope that Allah would guide him and us to the path of righteousness; for it remains obligatory upon the Muslims to offer sound advice to their brothers in religion, in the light of the Quran and Sunnah, and guide them towards that which is righteous. It is regrettable, however, that all such efforts have been fruitless despite the numerous attempts. Therefore, when a person rejects the sincere advice of his brothers in private, it becomes religiously and morally incumbent upon the Mujahideen to publicly advise the Muslim Ummah of his obstinacy and insistence on sowing disunity among the vanguards of this Ummah.


    The series of video releases - one in March when the Kuffar were preparing to invade the Islamic Administrations in Lower Shabeelle region and another in October just after the Kenyans had invaded the port city of Kismayo, in Lower Jubba region - were intended to serve a broader purpose. Hence, the timing of the releases and the convergence of the entire East African nations upon the Mujahideen were not entirely coincidental occurrences but a calculated attempt to draw attention to the alleged voices of dissent within the ranks of the Mujahideen at a time when they were most likely to be under pressure from their enemies so as to cultivate the destructive seeds of disunity. But Allah is the best disposer of all affairs; the seeds failed to germinate and the evil plot encompasses only him who makes it.


    We sincerely apologise to the Muslim Ummah in general and our Mujahideen brothers in all the fields of Jihad in particular for having to witness such childish petulance in one of the theatres of Jihad, reminding them that the caravan of Jihad cannot and will not, Insha-Allah, be derailed from its tracks or the spirit of this great Ummah dampened by the superficial allegations, frivolous ramblings and whimsical desires of those who wish to enhance their image at the price of Jihad and the Mujahideen, spreading discord and disunity in the process.


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    Here's the source so that the post doesn't get deleted:

    https://twitter.com/HSMPress/status/280575462969864192
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    With that, I don't think anyone needs to add any more.

    May Allah SWT unite us upon the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu_Mahamed View Post
    The series of video releases - one in March when the Kuffar were preparing to invade the Islamic Administrations in Lower Shabeelle region and another in October just after the Kenyans had invaded the port city of Kismayo, in Lower Jubba region - were intended to serve a broader purpose. Hence, the timing of the releases and the convergence of the entire East African nations upon the Mujahideen were not entirely coincidental occurrences but a calculated attempt to draw attention to the alleged voices of dissent within the ranks of the Mujahideen at a time when they were most likely to be under pressure from their enemies so as to cultivate the destructive seeds of disunity.
    Am I wrong, or does one get the feeling that they're insinuating that Abu Mansur is/has been colluding with the invading forces, or at least aiding them in their propaganda war, which would render him more or less a muharib and/or apostate?
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    Al-Salamu `Alaykum Wa Rahmatu 'Llahi Wa BarakaTuhu,

    Quote Originally Posted by Umm DJ-N View Post
    With that, I don't think anyone needs to add any more.
    People are gonna do it anyways...let's just try to be balanced.

    I am actually sort of glad at this statement. It, in an inexplicably crazy way, makes me happy for Abu Mansur's safety.

    It seems to me that he was clearly exaggerating his fears (or maybe he just was under a wrong impression)...Allah (subhana wa ta ala) knows best.

    What it seems to me rather, is that it took HSM many months to reply to a video wherein he was saying he was going to die...and what was the response?

    No he wasn't killed, alhamduliLlah. But he was what I like to call 'Refuted IA style in real life.' It almost makes me laugh...Reading it made me think of numerous writers and posts here on IA.

    In any case, alhamduliLlah, he is still alive and from what it seems - no one wants to kill him. Hopefully everything works itself out, and they patch up their issues.

    May Allah SWT unite us upon the truth.
    Ameen.

    And to all those who think that this is some crazy event or schism in Muslim history that will change the course of, well, anything really - then I've got news for you - It won't, and to put it bluntly - it's not a big deal. Stuff like this happens between brothers. This is no different from hundreds of debates between brothers on IA which creates grudges that last for years...only this is played out in real life.

    I just pray that whatever the issue(s) may be...that the brothers find a way to work it out, and by the will of Allah (subhana wa ta ala) continue and strengthen their united stand and fight against all those who choose to invade, oppress, or in any way shape or form hurt the true Muslim servants of Allah (subhana wa ta ala).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn Nabih View Post
    Am I wrong, or does one get the feeling that they're insinuating that Abu Mansur is/has been colluding with the invading forces, or at least aiding them in their propaganda war, which would render him more or less a muharib and/or apostate?
    No, not Abu Mansur. They're not insinuating that (although they could have been more clear in the matter). He just starred in the videos - they weren't released by him.

    That's why he was advised and not executed to begin with. The videos were actually released by (most likely) the journalist who claimed he was in contact with Amriki (he must have gotten the recordings from him earlier and chose to release it during those times of tension). This person is the one whom they are most likely blaming for being part of this war against them.

    Abu Mansur, despite his choice to make that video, would never betray the Jihad there (in his own words from his book around that time) and the issues between them are personal, not issues of treason.
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    One day I'm reading he is one of the leaders of HSM. A great leader, fighter and role model. Next day I'm hearing he is hungry for fame, power and has no authority with HSM.

    Politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Idris Al-Albani View Post
    One day I'm reading he is one of the leaders of HSM. A great leader, fighter and role model. Next day I'm hearing he is hungry for fame, power and has no authority with HSM.

    Politics.
    I am quite surprised that you are so cynical.Read the article again.

    It is more than clear that HSM, were very patient with the brother and took a long time before they issued this statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad10 View Post
    No, not Abu Mansur. They're not insinuating that (although they could have been more clear in the matter). He just starred in the videos - they weren't released by him.

    That's why he was advised and not executed to begin with. The videos were actually released by (most likely) the journalist who claimed he was in contact with Amriki (he must have gotten the recordings from him earlier and chose to release it during those times of tension). This person is the one whom they are most likely blaming for being part of this war against them.

    Abu Mansur, despite his choice to make that video, would never betray the Jihad there (in his own words from his book around that time) and the issues between them are personal, not issues of treason.
    Do you have any source or proof that he 'just starred in the videos' and didn't release them? Doesn't he (or used to, not sure) have a twitter account where he used to post slight remarks against HSM and admitting that the videos were from him and so on?

    Look at this quote from the HSM article: "The opinions expressed by Abu Mansur, the alleged frictions and the video releases are merely the results of personal grievances[...]" which sounds pretty much like they put the 'blame' of releasing the videos on Abu Mansur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn Nabih View Post
    Do you have any source or proof that he 'just starred in the videos' and didn't release them? Doesn't he (or used to, not sure) have a twitter account where he used to post slight remarks against HSM and admitting that the videos were from him and so on?

    Look at this quote from the HSM article: "The opinions expressed by Abu Mansur, the alleged frictions and the video releases are merely the results of personal grievances[...]" which sounds pretty much like they put the 'blame' of releasing the videos on Abu Mansur.
    There is a discontinuity between filming a video and releasing it on the internet or to the media.

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