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    Assalamu alaikum brothers and sisters,

    Please follow this link to access the book "Jihad in Islam" by Hizb ut Tahrir :http://english.hizbuttahrir.org/imag...adinIslam2.pdf

    This book comprehensively defines Jihad in Islam; its causes and conditions and its relationship with the Khilafah vis a vis the situation today.

    Walikumsallam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salahudin View Post
    Assalamu alaikum brothers and sisters,

    Please follow this link to access the book "Jihad in Islam" by Hizb ut Tahrir :http://english.hizbuttahrir.org/imag...adinIslam2.pdf

    This book comprehensively defines Jihad in Islam; its causes and conditions and its relationship with the Khilafah vis a vis the situation today.

    Walikumsallam
    Why would I take my 'ilm (knowledge) from a group which holds no official aqeedah?


    If you really want to learn about Jihad, the bellow books will suffice for that.

    Mashari Al-Ashwaq Ila Masari Al-Ushaaq by Ibn-Nuhaas
    Thawaabit 'Ala Darb Al-Jihad (The constants of Jihad) by Yusuf al ‘Uyayree
    The Religious And Moral Doctrine Of Jihaad by Ibn Taymiyya
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    What is an official aqeedah?
    I only know the Islamic Aqeedah.

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    I spoke to a Dutch HUT member last week. I talked to him about importance of knowledge of the religion in dawah. He said yes, you are right, we have members of HUT who don't know how to pray. HUT need to teach their members how to pray before they talk about jihad.
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    I have nothing against salafis. Even some of my friends are salafis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salahudin View Post
    What is an official aqeedah?
    I only know the Islamic Aqeedah.
    An official aqeedah is one which has a government seal/certificate in the corner which government officials can touch and look at consistently to insure the security of their position (inside joke for those who have dealt with govt bureaucracies in Arab countries).

    Firebrand Mullah,

    We can all admit that HT has many 'hangers- on' and rah-rah supporters who personally are lacking in many ways.
    But just because one of them opens his mouth about Jihad in a time when Jihad is increasingly on the lips of Muslims, doesn't mean HT should be or can be held responsible for the personal failures of such individuals.

    I would rather see sinful Muslims show public support for Islam and allegiance to Muslims than they be completely repelled by Islam. I have seen "Muslims" in Algeria who literally 'hate' Islam and Muslims on account of the civil war in which, from their perspective, bearded men in thawbs often indiscriminately murdered women and children, sometimes in broad daylight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Kamel View Post
    Firebrand Mullah,

    We can all admit that HT has many 'hangers- on' and rah-rah supporters who personally are lacking in many ways.
    But just because one of them opens his mouth about Jihad in a time when Jihad is increasingly on the lips of Muslims, doesn't mean HT should be or can be held responsible for the personal failures of such individuals.
    Since HUT is a "Hizb" where everyone is supposed to accept the official party line, the party as a whole can be held responsible for whatever Hizbi's do.

    I would rather see sinful Muslims show public support for Islam and allegiance to Muslims than they be completely repelled by Islam.
    You can't be a Muslim and yet be repelled by Islam.

    I have seen "Muslims" in Algeria who literally 'hate' Islam and Muslims on account of the civil war in which, from their perspective, bearded men in thawbs often indiscriminately murdered women and children, sometimes in broad daylight.
    Clean shaven guys with tight pants and cigarettes who don't know how to pray do not really help much either. The guys in thawbs and beards might be evil, but just because something horrible happened in Algeria, it doesn't mean Hizbi's can go ahead and talk about Khilafah while their own members don't know how to pray.
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    I have nothing against salafis. Even some of my friends are salafis.

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    Official 'Aqeedah is also something that we can continue to split hairs over and fight over until we die.

    As important as 'aqeedah is, can we blame people for looking at the people who propagate sound creed and deciding that they would rather achieve something in their lives?
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    Meh.

    I can cooperate with HT to some extent, but as long as they cannot disassociate from the Rawafidh and seem to care little about all the shirk that is propagated within the ummah, I can't be excited about taking knowledge from them.

    Not only does the sympathetic/apathetic attitude to the Rawafidh show a fundamental lack of understanding the importance of aqeedah, it also shows a frightening level of ignorance (or deliberate neglect) of political situations in the Islamic world. Quite disturbing for a group that primarily concerns itself with 'political Islam'.

    As for the usual taunts directed towards "salafis", they would hold more water if we were contrasting them with a group that has indeed achieved something, unlike the HTs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abul hafsa View Post
    I can cooperate with HT to some extent, but as long as they cannot disassociate from the Rawafidh and seem to care little about all the shirk that is propagated within the ummah, I can't be excited about taking knowledge from them.
    Could we not say the same about Salafis?
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    maybe someone should just read the book and then decide for themselves
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