Breaking News! Mujahideen Destroy A Sufi Shrine In Timbuktu

[abu hadeed]

hey imagine if these lot went to Pakistan, they would have enough marble and stone left over to build an entire city called Bedrock

[ArcSine]

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the thing is that real mujahideen or real muslim leader/amir doesn't hide and run like a coward. A real muslim who is ready to die in the path of Allah only fears Allah -- and he has nothing to hide or hide in caves or be on the run.
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It's quite surprising that a Muslim, especially someone who claims to be located in Makkah, cannot comprehend, how a True Real and Brave Muslim who is ready to die in the path of Allah and only fears Allah, can in fact hide/run away from the kuffar, as a strategy, and be practical as long as he is doing so within the scope of what is allowed in Islam. And that doing so doesn't compromise their Islam and sincerity in the least.
Don't they teach seerah of the Prophet(sallaAllahu 'alaihi wasallam) in Makkah anymore?

Pity the fools who let the leaders of the kuffaar do their thinking for them. They don't even know when they end up insulting the Prophet(SAW), in their frenzy.

It's like claiming that a really brave person should not need to be practical and use weapons and strategy even if the enemy is armed to the teeth. Rather convenient for the enemy, ain't it?

Or is it that they wish to sit and watch while Allah subhaanahu wata'aala defeats His enemies?

[abu hadeed]

It's quite surprising that a Muslim, especially someone who claims to be located in Makkah, cannot comprehend, how a True Real and Brave Muslim who is ready to die in the path of Allah and only fears Allah, can in fact hide/run away from the kuffar, as a strategy, and be practical as long as he is doing so within the scope of what is allowed in Islam. And that doing so doesn't compromise their Islam and sincerity in the least.
Don't they teach seerah of the Prophet(sallaAllahu 'alaihi wasallam) in Makkah anymore?

Pity the fools who let the leaders of the kuffaar do their thinking for them. They don't even know when they end up insulting the Prophet(SAW), in their frenzy.

It's like claiming that a really brave person should not need to be practical and use weapons and strategy even if the enemy is armed to the teeth. Rather convenient for the enemy, ain't it?

Or is it that they wish to sit and watch while Allah subhaanahu wata'aala defeats His enemies?

its also interesting how those who do not even have a speck of dust on their clothes seem to be the most vocal of critics against those engaged in struggle.

[Abu-Asiya]

That's what they say about people they don't like. For example I've seen somalis who would say "al shabaab always run away.." if al shabaab vacates a town. But when their tribal warlord runs away, they make all the excuses "it was a strategic move ya'nee to launch a counter attack...ya'nee he doesn't want to destroy his city so he wants to take the fighting outside of the city etc etc." ummmhmm. So it's not really a matter of understanding tactics or lacking knowledge. They just want to belittle people they don't like.

[muslim_analyst]

Assalaamu alaykum ikhwaany wa akhawaaty, why muslim_analyst even allowed to post we dont need people like him around,
May Allah 'azza wa jalla straighten him.

You are not the first one to make such a call for ban. Many field agents prior to you did call for my banning.

Here are few tips for another trainee field agent I gave in another post:

some tips for dummy field agents

learn arabic and translate few islamic literature to establish credibility and look cool. make sure you post lots of material specially hate material against western countries so you your reputation will be all GREEN as you will get lots of +ve reps from other hate-propaganda field agents. Make sure your bar is all green. Anyone who thinks critically like me, make sure you ask the moderators to BAN me, say that i'm abusing or accusing "fake" mujahideen etc. etc.. also, back date your joining date to look that you have been on this forum for some time.

we dont need people like him around,

Good one, we need people like Ameer Joseph Cohen.

I think the brother "muslim_analyst" is a firm believer in conspiracy theories and that there is no jihad going on and CIA is running the show and honestly i dont understand how any muslim with correct aqeeda can oppose the demolition of shrines and discouraging people from shirk/bidah. note :: they didnt kill anyone in there

The real conspiracy is to claim conspiracy anything that makes sense. This is not new. It is very useful propaganda tool used by Field Agents all the time. Dismiss anything as Propaganda.

First of all, Western Countries had communism ( soviets ) as the boogeyman ! After they destroyed Communism and the soviets, they needed a new Boogeyman. so, their allies who were the so called Mujahideen lead by Osama bin Laden became the new Boogeyman. Western Media starting pumping propaganda against Islam and Muslims. They first started with Islamic Fundamentalism and Extremism and then slowly this became a witch hunt against any Muslim going against the Western ideology and philosophy. Love for En-slavery and colonialism cannot just go away as they say Old habits die hard. So, new methods are used to enslave and colonize Muslims.

The script writer for this new Movie is really dumb as many have seen -- even the non muslims have noticed the witch hunt and defaming of Muslims.

Fake Mujahideen Alqaeda Osama bin Laden are super Jaahil type of people when it comes to Modern technology. Can you imagine these fake Mujahideen were able to do 9/11 while they were never able to tople AAL SAUD Government or the puppet pakistani government or strike anywhere in Iran ( sworn enemies of shites ) or in Israel. use brain if you have one.

Anyone who lived in Saudi Arabia knows the level of average Saudi and arabs and we know how juhhal are the Afghan people. poverty and ill-literacy above 75% in the country. C'mon how stupid are some on this forum trying to attribute such things to a dummy Alqaeda led by Juhaal & Co. The real reason to attribute is like I said to defame Islam and Muslim and the need for a new boogeyman to suppress their own people and pass laws as they like. This age old trick. Read history field agents purposely trying to entrap people on this forum by sympathizing with Juhaal Khawarij influenced CIA/FBI/Mossad backed fake mujahideen Alqaeda & Co.
Look at Joseph Cohen ( Aka Amir Yousef al-Khattab ) able to comprehend literary Arabic and when I asked him on very this forum where did he learn Arabic , he said on CHAT with some unknown emirati guy ( dubai hub of prostitutes and they guy had time to teach arabic to some unknown person ) and over the chat he learned so much arabic that he was able to translate and comprehend hadith literature. The guy was able to spread hate against Islam and Muslims and was protected under the US first amendment. Anyone sane with little brain can see what happened to Tariq Mehanna and his first amendment and Joseph Cohen Adam Pearlman Gadahn.

Remember the Anthrax attack. Remember that FBI found passports of the hijackers at the WTC site. The whole building melted but FBI easily found passports of Arab Alqaeda Muslim Terrorists in the rubble. Nothing happened to the passport but everyone else got vapourised and melted. Remember the Hijackers whose videos were shown on CNN they were partying in nightclubs and having lap dances just before the attacks and this was confirmed even from their family members that there were not religious and were into drinking and prostitutes.
Remember how the Hijackers allowed passengers to make phone calls from their personal cellphones above thousands of meters where no telephone signal works. Check for yourself next time you travel in plane if there is any signal once the plane takes off.

Only a really stupid guy will buy this cheap "B" class movie script or has to be field agents promoting such kind of stupidity and idiocity.

Hey, what happened to those hijackers who were found alive ? ALQAEDA HIJACKERS FOUND ALIVE ? why weren't they prosecuted ? because those who were alive were not even good muslims. One of Hijackers who was found alive was in morocco busy with moroccon prostitutes.

At Least 7 of the 9/11
Hijackers are Still Alive

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

The muscle hijackers 'picked by bin Ladin':

Satam al Suqami, Wail and Waleed al Shehri (two brothers) Both Alive, Abdul Aziz al Omari Alive, Fayez Banihammad (from the UAE), Ahmed al Ghamdi, Hamza al Ghamdi, Mohand al Shehri Alive, Saeed al Ghamdi Alive, Ahmad al Haznawi, Ahmed al Nami Alive, Majed Moqed, and Salem al Hazmi Alive (the brother of Nawaf al Hazmi).
How can the 9/11 Commission be taken seriously when they re


see here: Letters from Abbottabad: Bin Ladin Sidelined?

and quoting isolated events in Pakistan is not fair . Since these people in Mali have no link with whatsoever is going on in Pakistan.. Also akhi "muslim_analyst" are you a Pakistani ??? I guess Pakistanis are quite fond of conspiracy theories.

you know in Aal Saud country ( Saudi Arabia ) it is swearing to call someone pakistani or indian or bengali . good tarbiyyah from our aal saud endorsed by aal-shake (shaykh) system.

Well, there is no harm in asking, so the answer is NO, I am not pakistani.

The only people who deny critical analysis and label anything which exposes oppression against Islam as consipracy theory are Zionist Jews. So are you a ZIONIST JEW ? just asking.

looking at your posts, mashallah, alatool into Jihad and killing.... read tips for dummy agents mr. discreditor of anything makes sense as Conspiracy Theory.

mashalah...they did good.wish all muslims try to destroy idols etc in their midst

What about Muslims living in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh should they also take your advice and get started with riots and killings ?!

Should a layman muslim take law into his hand and destroy the idols ( muslim shrines ) ?

interestingly these fake mujahideen never blow up any RIBAWI BANKS which Quran says Harb min al Allah wa Rasulih .... No Fake Mujahideen ever blew up any RIBAWI BANKING system which is the core of western power system. Why didn't Alqaeda do anything ? because like I said, it is not ALQAEDA but AL-CIA-DAH trained by FBI/CIA.

Fake mujahideen are only interested in blowing up Jaahil Muslims and label them mushrik/kuffar and blow them up and the field agents rejoice at this great achievement.

[muslim_analyst]

Quite sad really that 'Muslim_Analyst' resides in Makkah, but then again the juhaal were rampant there in the time of the Prophet(saas.)

I wonder what MA would have said if he was alive when Hubal and all the other idols were destroyed.

then again Makkah had Khawarij who killed the companions of Prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم , like Ali and Uthman. The Madinah had munafiqeen like the king of Munafiqeen Abdullah bin Ubay bin Salul ;

The khawarij have survived so far and so have the munafiqeen

Makkah needs dishwashers too Akhi...

haha. funny, Makkah has dishwashers and toilet cleaners and they are the best when compared with anyone else. The fadaail of makkah are numerous.

It's quite surprising that a Muslim, especially someone who claims to be located in Makkah, cannot comprehend, how a True Real and Brave Muslim who is ready to die in the path of Allah and only fears Allah, can in fact hide/run away from the kuffar, as a strategy, and be practical as long as he is doing so within the scope of what is allowed in Islam. And that doing so doesn't compromise their Islam and sincerity in the least.
Don't they teach seerah of the Prophet(sallaAllahu 'alaihi wasallam) in Makkah anymore?

Pity the fools who let the leaders of the kuffaar do their thinking for them. They don't even know when they end up insulting the Prophet(SAW), in their frenzy.

It's like claiming that a really brave person should not need to be practical and use weapons and strategy even if the enemy is armed to the teeth. Rather convenient for the enemy, ain't it?

Or is it that they wish to sit and watch while Allah subhaanahu wata'aala defeats His enemies?

ArcSine, read the tips for new agents posted above or here How much important is Jihad in Islam?

anyway , the real mujahideen muslims like Bilal - the companion, didn't fear anyone except Allah.. His story of Ahad Ahad is well known. And many other Sahaba, they didn't fear anyone and they were tortured.

Where as the CIA backed fake mujahideen on slippers hide in the caves and blow up muslim shrines and kill muslims ( collateral damage ) and these cowards , don't even release the credentials of their ameers.

Read history ignorant fools and see the difference between coward fake mujahideen and the real ones.

[BaitulMaqdis]

Surely teaching the population of the wrongs in grave worshipping should be done before destroying it? Why not be merciful to the locals and get them on your side instead of rushing into such activities.

[Ibn al-Iskandar]

Surely teaching the population of the wrongs in grave worshipping should be done before destroying it? Why not be merciful to the locals and get them on your side instead of rushing into such activities.

Have you ever tried teaching a grave worshiper that it's wrong to do so?

It's like telling a person that they should change their religion.

Nope. It is the responsibility of those in authority to remove objects of idol worship. The first act of the Prophet SAWS in Makkah once controlled was to destroy the idols in the Ka'bah. No concern whatsoever for the people who still adored and worshiped them.

Follow the Sunnah. It's good for you.

[ahmad10]

Al-Salamu `Alaykum Wa Rahmatu 'Llahi Wa BarakaTuhu,

Surely teaching the population of the wrongs in grave worshipping should be done before destroying it? Why not be merciful to the locals and get them on your side instead of rushing into such activities.

Destroying the shrines is how you teach the population of the wrongs in grave worshipping.

When Makkah was opened, and the Sahabi went to destroy the idol - everyone thought he would be struck down - and when it didn't happen (he made fun of it by acting as if it did, and then showed it did nothing) everyone rejected the idol and accepted Islam. That was the fastest lesson, and the one that stuck. They saw their previous foolishness, and came to Islam completely.

The method above (that you mention) will do nothing. At least not to those who believe that graves have actual power. No. Seeing is Believing. It's good they destroyed the shrines - I don't think any of those sufis (in Timbuktu) will see too much 'power' in their graves anymore - and hopefully will stop taking such things as idols of worship.

[Abu Dharr]

What if the grave was there before the masjid?? in that case the masjid should be removed not the grave.

this is usual salafi priority. dont work on feeding the people, or bettering their lives. No, lets level graves and ban football and start a war on women's dress etc.

then in 5-10 years when everyone turns against them they wonder why.

aww.. you're mad because your little sufi shrine got destroyed hahaha