Muslim Demographics

[Abu Treika]

interesting...

[Abu Shawarma]

Very uplifting message although I am sure that was not their intention lol.

I have doubts about the numbers though. Allahu A'lam. But if this is true, would it still be good to do hijrah?

[aboo ayaat al hindee]

it's just propaganda. even if it's true the growing population of muslims does not necessitate the spread of islaam since many are muslims only nominally and are ideologically no different from their western counterparts.

[Abu Shawarma]

it's just propaganda. even if it's true the growing population of muslims does not necessitate the spread of islaam since many are muslims only nominally and are ideologically no different from their western counterparts.

Good point.

These guys are freaking out for no reason. If we were talking about 50 million 'Umar ibn Al-khattabs or Khalid bin Walids.. they would have a point.

Even watered down Hamza Yusuf islam is not good enough for them. Even if you are a kaafir they will not be satisfied until you change your muslim name. The smallest trace of islam is enough to scare them.

[Medean Heritage]

interesting...

Allahumma Lakkal hamd!

[harbi]

It's propaganda. The numbers seem to be all wrong.
Netherlands and Belgium:
There are 1 million muslims in the Netherlands out of a population of 16 million, and 700.000 muslims out of a population of 10.6 million. Immigrants in the Netherlands and Belgium mainly originate from countries where the fertility rate is 2.5-1.8.
If 50% of all the newborn were muslim in the Netherlands and Belgium the muslim women would have to give birth to 25 children on average.
France:
Immigrants in France are mainly from countries where the fertility rates are 2.5-1.7. Claiming their average fertility rate has grown to 8.1 in France is ... a claim.

The muslim population in EU is about 5% of the total population of 500 million, and the muslim population in Germany are no different. How is this going to lead Germany to become a muslim state 40 years from now, considering "muslim" fertility rates in Europe are declining faster than amoung non-muslims closing the fertility gap.

[Abu Treika]

It's propaganda. The numbers seem to be all wrong.
Netherlands and Belgium:
There are 1 million muslims in the Netherlands out of a population of 16 million, and 700.000 muslims out of a population of 10.6 million. Immigrants in the Netherlands and Belgium mainly originate from countries where the fertility rate is 2.5-1.8.
If 50% of all the newborn were muslim in the Netherlands and Belgium the muslim women would have to give birth to 25 children on average.
France:
Immigrants in France are mainly from countries where the fertility rates are 2.5-1.7. Claiming their average fertility rate has grown to 8.1 in France is ... a claim.

The muslim population in EU is about 5% of the total population of 500 million, and the muslim population in Germany are no different. How is this going to lead Germany to become a muslim state 40 years from now, considering "muslim" fertility rates in Europe are declining faster than amoung non-muslims closing the fertility gap.

they do seem to be worng - its more the fact that the chrisitians chat so much crap just to try and get their religion back on track

[Intoodeep]

Harbi,

You are right (for once). This is gross mis-information. Because of the propaganda machine of the western media, islam is totally over-hyped and made to appear like a huge monster about take over - when that is totally far from the reality on the ground.

In reality i would say there are very few practicing muslims compared to the overall muslim population. Most people of muslim heritage who immigrate to the west do so for economic reasons and tend to be secular/non-practicing. Their descendents and offspring will most probably end up in the long term apostate/non-muslim. Jut like the albanian/bosnian communities did who immigrated to the USA at the turn of the century

[harbi]

If you notice the source at the buttom right of the initial picture illustrating muslim fertility rate in France, it says: “Global Jihad: Lifting the Veil on Islam”.
I did a search and wasn't able to find it anywhere but at some Virgin Mary's Bayside Prophecies Store, run by These Last Days Ministries. In my opinion, not exactly representing western media. I haven't seen these figures in any western media, besides this youtube clip, most probably made by TLDM or some other american right wing christian endtime cult.

It's amazing what you can find on youtube. I once came across this clip:



If the translation is right, even muslims doesn't shy away from telling lies that suits their agenda.

[abuhannah]

I once came across this clip:

Have to agree its a little far fetched in its generality of the masses,there are bad things that go on in all Countries whether its acknowledged by people or not is their qualm,be it in the East or West there are many ills,period!