MuslimMatters: Why Boycotting Swiss Cheese is Not a Good Idea

[ahaneefah]

Why Boycotting Swiss Cheese is Not a Good Idea | MuslimMatters.org

[abumuwahid]

I actually have no idea what he just wrote there.

[sulemanc]

asalamolaikum.
The 'swiss cheese' reference is supposed to be a reference to an arguments with holes (i.e. flaws) in it.
But arguably the article has flaws in it, since it makes no reference to precedent in Islamic history for such a concept - Thumamah Ibn Uthal (as per The Treaty Of Hudaybiya), even if he feels it does not fit the situation.
To be fair to the author, he does not seem to be against the concept, merely whether they they have fully thought through all aspects of implementation.

[Noorah]

boycotting does work if enough people do it.

when the arab countries temporarily boycotted danish products it definitely made a difference and hurt the companies.

because us muslims dont really care and want to sweeten our attackers just to be bitten further there arent any large scale boycotts to make a difference. this authors solution is reaching out to those who 'disagree with us'. because boycotts fail. muslims have been trying to 'reach out' long before, that didnt work just like his idea of boycotts dont work. there can be as many interfaith dialogues and reaching out as anyone wants, but it wont do much..really. if people want to ban minarets, or insult Muhammed Sallallahu alahyi wasallam, or kill palestinians/iraqis/afghanis then all the reaching out in the world is not going to stop them
just shows what a pathetic state we are in, just like Muhammed sallallahu alayhi wasallam had told us of.

[WM]

when the arab countries temporarily boycotted danish products it definitely made a difference and hurt the companies.

Agreed. I heard that lost revenue was in the region of billions of USD.

[Wild Wild West]

As one Shaykh told me, Due to our cowardice (jubn) we love our cheese (jubnah) more than our Rasool (s)...


Sounds good in Arabic anyway.

[justabro]

This article is the usual nonsense that comes out of MM. Of course, Jaysh couldn't miss an opportunity like this to pitch his message of love and capitulation:

MM Associates
December 7, 2009 • 1:04 am
An excellent response, brother Nadim. Jazakh-Allah Khair for your wise input.

I believe the proper way to react to the Swiss minaret issue is not through aggressive boycotts and angry pitchfork-wielding mobs, but rather with softness and in a way “that is better.” Let’s educate people. That is the proper solution. If we react in a harsh manner, we only help out the right-wing Islamophobes…It is a reaction they desperately want as it further enables them, so let’s not give it to them.

-J.Hashmi

[anam]

pitchfork-weilding mobs? lol

but rather with softness and in a way “that is better.” Let’s educate people. That is the proper solution.

yes Jaysh so why couldn't you follow your methods and implement them on IA?
because SOMETIMES BEING HARSH IS EFFECTIVE its also from the sunnah [as you already know ] ..lets face it, Jaysh and his methods [holey or unholey] have proved fruitless even against his own brethren here on the net so what then of the aggressive kuffar in the big wide world? i imagine they would take him him for a right mug and enslave his ass! how can you teach someone who doesn't want to learn ?
im not throwing his approach against the wall [though i'd like to throw him against the wall] but everything has its place, unfortunately everythings been for a while now, in the hands of moderates and defeatest mindsets..

thanks but no tanks you a freed from hardship

justabro i remember debating with this guy , he is filled with emotions and still feeling the effects of 9/11 [may Allah [swt] help him] i found him complaining about my spelling/grammer most of the time instead of having knowledge based refutations or some words from the scholors

allahu allam

[huehuecoyotl]

MM Associates
December 7, 2009 • 1:04 am
An excellent response, brother Nadim. Jazakh-Allah Khair for your wise input.

I believe the proper way to react to the Swiss minaret issue is not through aggressive boycotts and angry pitchfork-wielding mobs, but rather with softness and in a way “that is better.” Let’s educate people. That is the proper solution. If we react in a harsh manner, we only help out the right-wing Islamophobes…It is a reaction they desperately want as it further enables them, so let’s not give it to them.

-J.Hashmi

What? aggressive boycotts? Boycotts by their definition are non aggressive. That is one way to hit someone whose ideas you don't like right where it hurts, the pocket book. If the Swiss want Muslim patronage then they should better shape up. Violent attacks of course would only become a self fulfilling prophecy. "We ban minarets because Muslims are taking over the country and now they attack us, it must be true!" Boycotts kick them where it hurts and shows them to be ignorant racists against building concrete in certain ways.

[anam]

What? aggressive boycotts? Boycotts by their definition are non aggressive. That is one way to hit someone whose ideas you don't like right where it hurts, the pocket book. If the Swiss want Muslim patronage then they should better shape up. Violent attacks of course would only become a self fulfilling prophecy. "We ban minarets because Muslims are taking over the country and now they attack us, it must be true!" Boycotts kick them where it hurts and shows them to be ignorant racists against building concrete in certain ways.

thanks for the input

esp since your non-Muslim it's good to see you opposing what we would call 'moderate Muslims' ..but i think for sure they're more likely to listen to you than to what any of us 'extreme' Muslims have to say.