Nouman Ali Khan on Khilafah

[abu.turaub]

AsSalaamu Alaikum

Is it really true that Muhammad SAW was left in his death bed for two days without burial until a Khaleefa was selected? If yes, then can someone please show me the aHaadheeth that mentions this fact (please remember to include names of Books, Numbers etc..).

Jazaakum Allah khairan

Wa alaykom salam wr wb

RE: the reference to Sh. Anwar saying Wednesday - The Sh. says his seerah series is based primarily on ibn Kathir's collections. I don't know where to start to track actual quotes down.

What day? You'll find two answers. Tuesday & Wednesday. This is because Rasoollah SAW was buried in his house. A tiny one room apartment on the side of the masjid. The funeral started on Tuesday but they could only sqeeze a few into the room with the grave open. By the time all prayed the funeral prayer it was Wednesday before they completed the burial (covering the grave over).

Here is "The Sealed Nectar" Seerah book on the burial.
Life of Prophet Muhammad - MuslimAccess

allahu alim - and Allah knows best.

[The.Joshua.Redux]

^^^^ So its not certain, jazakallahu khairan. plus you have to take into consideration, the next day starts at maghrib, while in western culture it is at midnight.

lets get back to the topic, yo

[Ibn al-Iskandar]

I got my info from Anwar al Awlaki r.h. So I'm certain its the truth.

That's not how 'truth' works Akhi, with all due respect to Shaykh al-Awlaqi, rahimahu Llah.

[AbuMubarak]

Yes.


But I got my info from Anwar al Awlaki r.h. So I'm certain its the truth.

subhanallah akhi

as much as i love the imam, i would never say anything like that about anyone

the sheikh is not the daleel, the daleel of the sheikh is daleel, no matter who the sheikh is

you can accept it from anyone, but for you to say its "truth" means that you should know it to be true because you have seen the daleel

imagine someone saying that about tahirul qadri, that its ok to celebrate christmas because i got it from tahir so i am certain it is truth

this is how sects and groups get started, taking the word of any person without verifying it

[_ Jibreel]

subhanallah akhi

as much as i love the imam, i would never say anything like that about anyone

the sheikh is not the daleel, the daleel of the sheikh is daleel, no matter who the sheikh is

you can accept it from anyone, but for you to say its "truth" means that you should know it to be true because you have seen the daleel

imagine someone saying that about tahirul qadri, that its ok to celebrate christmas because i got it from tahir so i am certain it is truth

this is how sects and groups get started, taking the word of any person without verifying it

yeah, I shouldve reworded it, I get lectured all the time and have it presented to me.. Quranic hujjah... and etc...



I just got lazy in my typing, without mentioning how,so that was a mistake of mine.

[Abu Kamel]

Bismillah

I presume that young students of knowledge such as Newman Ali Khan have been instructed by their teachers or superiors to profess such unIslamic political concepts that serve to undermine the concept of Muslim self determination and liberation from kufr power and resumption of the khilafah to excel at the worship of Allah.

When one understands the khilafah to be a mechanism by which believers can collectively serve and worship Allah correctly and to a level closer to the Pleasure of Allah, then no speech against the khilafah can be acceptable. And no figure retains dignity who speaks against the pursuit of excellence in worship of Allah.

The reality is the salaf wa salih lived with the khilafah and the Islamic state and did not regularly conceive of its nonexistance anywhere on earth. There was always an Darul Islam and refuge from kufr for them. Even when the Mongols sacked Baghdad, or when the Crusaders occupied Shaam, etc.

Can you accept another generation of 'people of knowledge and authority' in the Muslim community in the West serving to obstruct the resumption of the khilafah, the Sovereignty of Allah over Man's affairs, and the pursuit of excellence in the worship of Allah?

[ibnulqayyim]

someone said in the thread, they will speak to him when he comes to his town...What to do is prepare a proper yet polite speech and stuff to say to br. Nouman.

I request Ustadh Abu Najm advise us.

[ahmad10]

someone said in the thread, they will speak to him when he comes to his town...What to do is prepare a proper yet polite speech and stuff to say to br. Nouman.

I request Ustadh Abu Najm advise us.

Al-Salamu `Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu,

I wasn't able to speak to him alone this time around. He was here for less than a day, and the whole time people were fawning over him. So all we did was exchange greetings, and I sat in one of the Duroos then left.

In sha allah, if I see him again (he comes every so often) - I'll try to talk to him. But if you've ever been around him you see that he's got the aura of a teacher, not of a colleague. So whoever wanted to talk to him about issues like this should be on his level or higher.

Add to that, you'll find that what he's saying is indeed the viewpoint of the majority of the people. It's not like we at IA are the mainstream culture. Heck, at least in the open, we're an extreme fringe (or at least made to seem that way). When some of these people talk about not judging Muslims by a few bad apples - guess what - we're the bad apples being referred to here. So I see it as really futile to be arguing with a person such as him, at least in the open.

If someone (like us) who was close to him on a friend level - could talk to him privately, then maybe the brother could listen, and possibly tweak his approach to this topic. Just some of my observations, and ideas.

And Allah (swt) knows best.

[abu.turaub]

Do the ulema sultan in Riyadh speak about khilafa or is there just silence? After all, they claim to follow the salaf and the salaf followed the Khilafa. Where is their input?

[Ibn al-Iskandar]

someone said in the thread, they will speak to him when he comes to his town...What to do is prepare a proper yet polite speech and stuff to say to br. Nouman.

I request Ustadh Abu Najm advise us.

I've already said what I wanted to say in this thread. Is it something that I would like for Br. Nu'man to hear? Of course. And of course I believe it's important ]that one way or another the brother hears what has been mentioned.

Will it change his mind or approach about khilafah? I don't know. To be honest, I'm not sure the videos in this thread or others really encapsulate his true mind or approach to khilafah such that any prefabricated responses would qualify as legitimate or valid criticism outside of the very specific points addressed.

Personally, in any courses I've taught and in any relationship I have with fellow Muslims, I refuse to be treated like I have an 'aura' of being a teacher or anything above anyone else. I hope that I welcome advice and in fact I regularly solicit the opinions of students and it's important to me to be approachable. Not everyone is like this and that's unfortunate.

There are brothers and sisters working around the world, promoting Islam, the Shari'ah, Iman, the Deen, Fiqh, Qur'an, Muslim leadership, working to provide guidance for youth, wayward Muslims, and even non-Muslims. I would be remiss if I didn't understand each person involved in the above work to be an integral part to any future materialization of Islamic governance and leadership, be it khilafah or less than that. I have no doubt that Br. Nu'man, Imam Nu'man, Ustadh Nu'man, however he prefers to be referred to, as I'm sure he has the right to ask for any I just mentioned- I have no doubt that the work he's doing, intentionally or unintentionally, is helping move Muslims in the direction of Islamic leadership and governance. In fact, I feel he's doing much more than me, and may Allah AWJ accept all of our good deeds. Ameen.

It's easy to disagree and be critical when addressing the overall picture of khilafah and how to get there. Through the exchange of ideas, analysis and criticism, perhaps we can improve our own understanding and that of others. Every time I post something related to Islam I hope for responses and criticism wherever possible as that's the only way to improve my understanding and that's the only way to know that others care enough to spend the time.

Advising public figures is a completely different beast. Perhaps the brother may be open to it, perhaps not. I'm sure it depends greatly on how he is approached, context, and tone of the person offering advice. Speaking from personal experience, there's a lot going on at events like conferences and lectures. So I wouldn't necessarily peg that as the best time to approach a speaker and lay into them about a random topic they spoke about before.

I can't really recommend that approach.

One last thing, I prefer that brothers not refer to me as 'Ustadh' unless actually a student in one of my classes, and then only during class if at all. As for 'Shaykh' then please don't ever refer to me that way, at least not for another 16 years, and even then best to have the Lisan ul-Arab volume and page number handy in case you think you've got a linguistic justification for the epithet.

Barak Allahu feekum.