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This is a discussion on Salafees being urged to handover Muslims to Authorities! within the Politics, Jihad and Current Affairs forums, part of the Main Topics category; Asslamo Allaikum, http://www.al-buruj.com/NajmiPigVomitFatwa.htm I disagree with the "Pig" part....

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    Asslamo Allaikum,

    http://www.al-buruj.com/NajmiPigVomitFatwa.htm

    I disagree with the "Pig" part.

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    As-Salaamu'alaykum

    Is this Ahmad an-Najmi also known as Yahya an-Najmi? Or they're two different people?

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    Informing The Authorities Of Terrorist Plots.

    By Abu Khadeejah Abdul-Waahid

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    One can recognize the ideology of the these evil doers from certain matters that their lectures and discussions always revolve around, from them is that they always call for rebellion and revolution in the Muslim lands and against the Muslim rulers; they declare the Muslim rulers and those who work in the apparatus of government to be apostates and unbelievers; they praise the suicide bombers and terrorists and insurgencies in Iraaq, Palestine and other places and continually justify their actions; they may praise the bombings of 9/11 in New York, 7th July bombings in London or the Madrid bombings. These discussions of theirs may not necessitate that they themselves will organize or carry out terrorist acts but this speech of theirs incites others towards violence. Remember it only takes two or three young men (or women) who have been affected to go out and wreak havoc. The Messenger of Allaah (salallaahu alaihi wassallam), mentioned these renegades (known as the Khawarij) in a narration, “If I am alive when they appear, I will slaughter them with the slaughtering of Aad.” And Aad was a tribe mentioned in the Qur’aan that was punished by Allaah for their evils and transgressions. He also stated, “They are the worst of Allaah’s creation under the sky.” There are many, many other narrations of the Prophet and his Companions describing them, to the extent that Shaikhul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah and Imaam an-Nawawee, two great scholars of the middle ages, stated the consensus of the great Scholars of the Salaf and Sunnah that these renegades must be prevented and fought against. In fact Shaikhul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (died 728 AH) stated that the Khawaarij are more harmful to Islaam and the Muslims than the Jews and the Christians. And this is due to the fact that these Jihaadis, Takfeeris and terrorists are a cancer within the ranks of the Muslims, destroying the purity of the Religion from within.
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    Does anyone know if Ahmad an-Najmi had a fatwa where he said it was permissible to serve in the American army against the "takfeeris" when the "War on Terror" began as I remember reading this in an Arab forum several years ago?

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    Abu Khadeejah Abdul-Waahid, brothers did this guy not go to Bosinia and came back because it was too cold and he missed his wife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by walid View Post
    Abu Khadeejah Abdul-Waahid, brothers did this guy not go to Bosinia and came back because it was too cold and he missed his wife?
    asSalaamu'alaykum

    Na3am, I heard something like this, but I heard he went there, got a wife, and went back to the UK. All these claims with no proof. Wallahu A'lam. May Allah make us amongst the people of Proof.

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    1346H-Present: Shaikh Ahmad bin Yahyaa An-Najmee


    Author: Shaikh Muhammad bin Haadee Al-Madkhalee Source: His introduction to the Shaikh’s book “Al-Mawrid-ul-‘Adhb az-Zilaal”

    His Name and Lineage:
    He is our noble Shaikh, the 'Allaamah, the Muhaddith, the Faqeeh, the present Muftee of the district of Jaazaan and carrier of the Banner of the Sunnah and Hadeeth in it - Shaikh Ahmad bin Yahyaa bin Muhammad bin Shabeer An-Najmee Aali Shabeer from Banee Hummad, one of the well known tribes of the district of Jaazaan.

    His Birth:
    The Shaikh, may Allaah preserve him, was born in the village of Najaamiyyah on the 22nd of Shawaal of 1346H, and was raised in the house of his two righteous parents - which have no equal in comparison.

    Because of this, both his parents made a pledge to Allaah on him that they would not burden him with any type of worldly jobs, and Allaah made what they wished come true.

    They would both constantly keep guard of their son to the point that they would not even let him play amongst the children. When he reached the age of puberty, they entered him into the schools of the town, where he learned to read and write. He learned to recite the Qur'aan in the national school before the arrival of Shaikh 'Abdullaah Al-Qar'aawee, rahimahullaah, three times to that area, the last of which occurred in 1358H when he remained there.

    He first read the Qur'aan to Shaikh 'Abdu Ibn Muhammad 'Aqeel An-Najmee in 1355H. Then he read it to Shaikh Yahyaa Faqeeh 'Abasee, who was from Yemen and who had come to Najaamiyyah and stayed there. Our Shaikh studied under him in the year 1358H. But when Shaikh 'Abdullaah Al-Qar'aawee arrived at Najaamiyyah, there occurred a debate between him and this teacher concerning the issue of Allaah's Rising – for he was an 'asharee. So Shaikh Al-Qar'aawee defeated him and he fled from the town after that. "And so the roots of the people who did wrong were cut off - all praise be to Allaah, Lord of the Worlds." [Surah Al-An’aam: 45]

    His Educational Upbringing:
    After their 'asharee teacher left, the Shaikh, along with his two paternal uncles, Hasan bin Muhammad An-Najmee and Husayn bin Muhammad An-Najmee, began to frequently attend Shaikh Al-Qar'aawee's classes for some days in the city of Saamitah, but this did not last. This was in the year 1359H. In 1360, in the month of Safar to be exact, our Shaikh joined the Madrasah Salafiyyah (Salafee School) and recited the Qur'aan, this time under the order of Shaikh 'Abdullaah Al-Qar'aawee (rahimahullaah) to Shaikh 'Uthmaan bin 'Uthmaan Hamlee (rahimahullaah). This was such that he recited the entire Qur'aan to him with tajweed and memorized the books "Tuhfat-ul-Atfaal", "Hidaayat-ul-Mustafeed", "Thalaathat-ul-Usool", "Al-'Arba'een An-Nawawiyyah" and "Al-Hisaab." And he perfected the discipline of handwriting.

    He would sit in the study circle, which Shaikh Al-Qar'aawee had set up there, until the time when the younger students departed after the Dhuhr Prayer. Then he would attend the circle for the elder students, which Shaikh 'Abdullaah Al-Qar'aawee was in charge of personally teaching. So he would sit in this class from after the Dhuhr Prayer till the time of the 'Ishaa Prayer. Then after praying ('Ishaa), he would return to his town of Najaamiyyah with his two uncles (Hasan and Husayn).

    After four months, Shaikh 'Abdullaah Al-Qar'aawee granted him permission to be part of his study circle for elder students, which he taught himself. So he read to the Shaikh the following books: "Ar-Raheebah" concerning Laws of Inheritance, "Al-Aajroomiyyah" concerning Arabic Grammar, "Kitaab At-Tawheed", "Buloogh Al-Maraam", "Al-Bayqooniyyah", "Nukhbat-ul-Fikr" with its explanation "Nuzhat-un-Nadhr", "Mukhtasaraat fee Seerah", "Tasreef Al-Ghazee", "Al-'Awaamil fee An-Nahw", "Al-Waraqaat" concerning the Principles of Fiqh, and "Al-'Aqeedat-ut-Tahaawiyyah" with its explanation from Shaikh 'Abdullaah Al-Qar'aawee - this was before they had seen its explanation from Ibn Abeel-'Izz. He also studied parts of the book "Al-Alfiyyah" of Ibn Maalik and "Ad-Durar Al-Bahiyyah" with its explanation "Ad-Daraaree Al-Madiyyah" concerning Fiqh - both of which were written by Ash-Shawkaanee (rahimahullaah). This goes as well for other books – those they were assigned to study, like the books mentioned above, those concise treatises and small pamphlets they studied for cultural education, or those books they would reference when researching such as Nayl-ul-Awtaar, Zaad Al-Ma'aad, Noor-ul-Yaqeen, Al-Muwatta and Al-Ummahaat.

    In 1362H, Shaikh 'Abdullaah (rahimahullaah) distributed portions of the Umahaat (Hadeeth Books) he had present in his library to his students, which consisted of Saheeh Al-Bukhaaree, Sunan Abee Dawood, Sunan An-Nasaa'ee, and the Muwatta of Imaam Maalik. So they (his elder students) began to read these books to him, but they weren’t able to complete them since they had to depart due to a drought.

    In 1364H, they returned and read them to him. This is when Shaikh 'Abdullaah gave him the ijaazah (religious authorization) to report from Al-Umahaat as-Sittah.

    In 1369H, he studied two books under Shaikh Ibraaheem bin Muhammad Al-'Amoodee, (rahimahullaah), the Judge of Saamitah at that time, which were: (1) "Islaah-ul-Mujtami'" and (2) the book of Shaikh 'Abdur-Rahmaan bin Sa'adee (rahimahullaah) on Fiqh, which is organized in the form of questions and answers, entitled: "Al-Irshaad ilaa Ma'rifat-il-Ahkaam."

    Also, at the order of Shaikh 'Abdullaah Al-Qar'aawee, he studied Grammar under Shaikh 'Alee Ibn-ush-Shaikh Ziyaad As-Sumaalee, going over the book "Al-'Awaamil fin-Nahwi Mi'ah", as well as other books on Grammar and Morphology.

    In 1384H, he attended the study circles of the (former) Muftee of the Saudi Lands, Shaikh Muhammad bin Ibraaheem Aali Shaikh (rahimahullaah) for the length of close to two months. In these circles, Imaam Aali Shaikh would teach Tafseer Ibn Jareer At-Tabaree with the recitation of 'Abdul-'Azeez Ash-Shalhoob. In the same year, he also attended the gatherings of our teacher, the Imaam, Shaikh 'Abdul-'Azeez Ibn Baaz (rahimahullaah), for the length of close to a month and a half. This class was on Saheeh Al-Bukhaaree and occurred between the Maghrib and 'Ishaa prayers.

    His Teachers:
    From what you have read above, it is clear that his teachers, in order, include:

    1. Shaikh Ibraaheem bin Muhammad Al-'Amoodee - the judge of Saamitah in his time.
    2. Shaikh Haafidh bin Ahmad Al-Hakamee, may Allaah have mercy on him.
    3. The Caller and Reformer (mujaddid) of the southern regions of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Shaikh 'Abdullaah Al-Qar'aawee, may Allaah have mercy on him.
    4. Shaikh 'Abdu bin Muhammad 'Aqeel An-Najmee.
    5. Shaikh 'Uthmaan bin 'Uthmaan Al-Hamlee.
    6. Shaikh 'Alee Ibn Ash-Shaikh 'Uthmaan Ziyaad As-Sumaalee.
    7. The Imaam and former Muftee of the lands of Saudi Arabia, Shaikh Muhammad bin Ibraaheem Aali Shaikh, may Allaah have mercy on him.
    8. Shaikh Yahyaa Faqeeh 'Abasee Al-Yemenee

    His Students:
    Our Shaikh, may Allaah preserve him, has many, many students. For someone who has spent the amount of time he spent teaching, which is almost half a century, you can just imagine how many students he will have. If we were to list their number, that would require a large book in itself. So I will only mention a short example of them, by which one can go by in determining his other students. So from among his students are:

    1. Our Shaikh, the 'Allaamah, the Muhaddith, the Defender of the Sunnah, Rabee' bin Haadee Al-Madkhalee
    2. Our Shaikh, the 'Allaamah, the Faqeeh, Zayd bin Muhammad Haadee Al-Madkhalee
    3. Our Shaikh, the Noble Scholar, 'Alee bin Naasir Al-Faqeehee

    It is sufficient to just mention these three names here. And this is due to the widespread fame they have in the circles and gatherings of knowledge, so no one can blame us for doing so.

    His Aptitude and Intelligence:
    The Shaikh possesses a very high level of intelligence. The following is a story that indicates the intelligence and good memory he had since childhood:

    The uncle, Shaikh 'Umar bin Ahmad Jardee Al-Madkhalee said:
    "When Shaikh Ahmad would attend classes at the Salafee School in Saamitah, along with his two uncles, Hasan An-Najmee and Husayn An-Najmee, during 1359H when he was 13, he would listen to the classes that Shaikh 'Abdullaah Al-Qar'aawee gave to his elder students and would memorize them."

    `I say: This is what caused Shaikh 'Abdullaah Al-Qar'aawee to let Shaikh Ahmad join his classes for adults, which he was in charge of teaching himself. This was because of what the Shaikh (Al-Qar'aawee) saw of his superiority, quickness in memorizing and intelligence.

    His Works:
    Our Shaikh, may Allaah preserve him, worked as a volunteer teacher in the schools of his Shaikh 'Abdullaah Al-Qar'aawee. When the salary positions began, he was assigned the duty of a teacher in his town of Najaamiyyah. This was in 1367H. Then in 1372H, he transferred to being Imaam and teacher in the town (masjid) of Abu Subaila in Baalhurrath.

    In 1/1/1374H, when the educational institute (ma’ahad) of Saamitah opened, he was assigned the position of a teacher in it, where he served until the year 1384H.[1] Then he resigned from this post with the hopes of getting the opportunity to teach in the Islamic University of Madeenah, so he traveled there. [2] However, certain circumstances took place that didn't allow that to occur, so he returned back to his district and Allaah decreed for him to be appointed the position of religious admonisher and guide for the Ministry of Justice of the District of Jaazaan. So he took the role of admonishing and advising in the best of manners.

    On 1/7/1387H, he returned to being a teacher at the educational institute in the city of Jaazaan at his request. Then at the beginning of the school year of 1389H, he returned to teaching at the institute of Saamitah. He remained there as a teacher until he retired in 1/7/1410H.

    Since that time up until the time that I am writing these lines, he has kept himself busy teaching in his home, in his local masjid and in other masaajid of the district, holding weekly classes as well as taking on the role of providing fataawaa (for questions).

    In doing all of this, he has acted in accordance with the final advice of his teacher, which was to remain constant in teaching and in taking care of the students, especially the foreign ones among them who left their families (to study). He had remarkable patience in accomplishing this, so we ask Allaah that He reward him on our behalf.

    He also abided by his teacher, Shaikh Al-Qar'aawee's final advice by continuing in his studies and researching and learning from others. This is especially with regard to the sciences and principles of Hadeeth and Fiqh, for it was such that he surpassed his colleagues and had a powerful command in that matter. May Allaah bless his life and knowledge and benefit us with his efforts.

    His Books of Knowledge:
    Our Shaikh, may Allaah preserve him, has written many books, some of which have been printed and some which have not. We ask Allaah to facilitate the publishing of those books so that benefit can be attained from them. Some of his books include:

    1. Awdah-ul-Ishaarah fee Ar-Radd 'alaa man abaaha Al-Mamnoo' min-az-Ziyaarah.
    2. Ta'sees-ul-Ahkaam Sharh 'Umdat-ul-Ahkaam - only a very, very small portion of it was printed.
    3. Tanzeeh-ush-Sharee'ah 'an Ibaahat-il-Aghaanee al-Khalee'ah.
    4. Risaalat-ul-Irshaad ilaa Bayaan-il-Haqq fee Hukm-il-Jihaad (A book explaining the ruling on Jihaad)
    5. Risaalatun fee Hukm-il-Jahr bil-Basmalah (The Ruling on pronouncing Bismillaah out loud in prayer)
    6. Fat'h-ur-Rabb-ul-Wadood fil-Fataawaa war-Rudood (A collection of verdicts)
    7. Al-Mawrid-ul-Adh'b az-Zilaal feemaa intaqada 'alaa ba'ad-il-manaahij ad-da'wiyyah min Al-'Aqaa'id wal-'A'amaal. (A book refuting two modern-day deviant sects: the Tablighi Jama’at and the Ikhwaan-ul-Muslimoon).

    He also has other beneficial books that he has put forth for the Muslims, may Allaah reward him with the best of rewards and benefit Islaam and the Muslims with him. And may the peace and blessings of Allaah be on our prophet, Muhammad, his family and Companions, Ameen.

    Written by his student
    Muhammad bin Haadee bin 'Alee Al-Madkhalee
    A Lecturer in the Faculty of Hadeeth
    of the Islaamic University of Madeenah

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    Question: Honorable Shaykh, some of the youth come sometimes and ask about this issue: if I find someone who defends these people (the Khawaarij, terrorists, etc.) and their plots, should I turn them in and inform (the authorities) of them? Some people consider this to be a form of betrayal on the part of the authorities, and that it’s impermissible to do this. We hope your eminence will explain this.

    Answer: The prophet said:

    “The religion is sincerity (giving sincere advice).”
    He repeated this three times. We (the companions) asked, “To whom, messenger of Allaah?” He
    answered:

    “To Allaah, His book, His messenger, to the leaders of the Muslims and their common people.”

    So, anyone who falls into these issues, he should be sincerely advised and explained the reality of these matters. If he desists, then thanks are due to Allaah. If he doesn’t desist yet he keeps quiet and doesn’t actually do anything, then leave him – his sin is upon himself. But if he actually and outwardly does something to deceive other Muslims or always talks about it, spreading this filthy ideology, then it’s an obligation to turn him in. This is a part of being sincere to Allaah, His book, His messenger, to the Muslim leaders and the common people.

    Are Today’s Terrorists the Khawaarij?

    Question: The questioner asks about this group that has today left the Muslims and opposed them. They carry out bombings and terrorize people who once felt safe. Are these people truly part of the Khawaarij or are they disbelievers?

    Answer: This group that has left the Muslims, rebelling against them – this is the result of disassociating oneself from the scholars. I mentioned the consequences of this during the last part of the (previous) lecture. They broke away from the scholars, broke away from the Muslim leaders, and the disbelievers and hypocrites put these ideologies into their heads. So, they’ve become outcasts in Muslim societies. They are Khawaarij, no doubt. This act of theirs is the act of the Khawaarij. Rather, they’re even more violent and extreme than the (original) Khawaarij. The (past) Khawaarij didn’t use to destroy buildings and residents. The Khawaarij used to show up face-to-face on the battlefield. They used to fight on the battlefield despite what they were upon of ignorance. But they didn’t used to collapse buildings on everyone who’s in them – women, children, the innocent, those at peace with Muslims, people with whom Muslims have a treaty, people guaranteed safety. The Khawaarij used not to do this. This is worse and more violent than the actions of the (original) Khawaarij. This is more like the actions of the Qaraamitah (a severely violent, misguided sect). They’re more like the Qaraamitah because the actions of the Qaraamitah are secret, based on secrecy and underhandedness and what these people today do is also based on secrecy. The (former) Khawaarij – their actions were not kept hidden and secret; they would make themselves and their objectives known, publicly announcing them. So, these people are even worse than Khawaarij.15
    How Do We Deal with Those Who Try to Validate Terrorist Acts?

    Question: You find among some of the youth people who don’t consider what’s occurred of bombings and similar actions (to be evil). They approve of, or try to validate some actions of this group…

    Answer: Such a person is either one of two things: He’s either 1) ignorant, giving them the benefit of the doubt. And to him, you clarify their faults to him, and explain them until his misconception about them is gone. Or 2) he’s behind them, supporting their ideas. He’s has the same belief as they do and shares their ideas. To him too, you clarify the truth, so perhaps he may return back. If he doesn’t return back (to truth), then his sin is upon himself. Unless of course it appears he himself may disrupt peace and safety or attempt to deceive other Muslims; in that case it’s an obligation to inform (the authorities) about him. If there appears anything from him that may infringe upon peace and security or he may deceive more Muslims or if he calls the youth to this (misguidance he’s upon), he must be turned in and informed of so they stop him.

    These questions were answered by Sh. Saalih Al-Fawzaan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hajjaj View Post
    Question: Honorable Shaykh, some of the youth come sometimes and ask about this issue: if I find someone who defends these people (the Khawaarij, terrorists, etc.) and their plots, should I turn them in and inform (the authorities) of them? Some people consider this to be a form of betrayal on the part of the authorities, and that it’s impermissible to do this. We hope your eminence will explain this.
    Wrong question to the wrong person as shaykh al-Imaam Ibn Taymiyyah (Rahimahullaah) says regarding those scholars :

    "The obligation regarding issues of Jihaad is to consider the opinion of the people of correct Deen, who have experience in the Dunyaa. The opinion of the people of Dunyaa who tend to look at the surface of the Deen, or the people of Deen who have no experience in the Dunyaa, is not to be followed."
    [al-Mustadrak 'alaa Majmoo' al-Fataawaa (220/3) compiled by Ibn Qaasim]

    Ibn Taymiyyah means that people who have some understanding of Jihaad, such as good scholars with sincerety (good and sincere means no government scholars) but who have no relationship with the Mujaahideen nor experience with Jihaad, should not be asked about Jihaad issues.

    This fatwa is also found in al-Fataawaa al-Kubra, the final volume (no. 5) :

    "And those who are asked about the matters of Jihaad are those people of correct, sound religion and who know what the people of the dunyaa are upon, and they are not to be asked, those who look at the superificialness of texts only, and and they are not to be asked those who have correct and sound religion, but are not aware of what the people of the dunya are upon"
    [Al-Fataawaa al-Kubraa, and this is taken from page 51 of Fil-Jihaad fiqh-Wajtihaad for Shaykh 'Abdullaah 'Azzaam]

    Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal and Imam Abdullah Ibnul Mubaarak said, In times of a dispute among the Ummah seek the opinion of the Mujahideen (on the battlefields) because the truth will be with them. Allah says As for those who do Jihad for us, We assuredly guide them to Our path. (29:69). -Ibn Taymiyyah: Majmoo al-Fatawa Volume 28, p 44



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    Question: The questioner asks about this group that has today left the Muslims and opposed them. They carry out bombings and terrorize people who once felt safe. Are these people truly part of the Khawaarij or are they disbelievers?
    'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin al-'As reported that the Messenger of Allah said:

    "There will come a time upon the people when their hearts will be like the hearts of the non-Arabs ('ajam)."

    He was asked: "And what are the hearts of the non-Arabs like?"

    The Messenger of Allah replied: "Love of the dunya, making their lifestyle that of the bedouins, devoting all of their acquired wealth to animals; they see Jihad as a source of harm, and charity as a source of loss."

    [Reported by al-Haythami in 'Majma' az-Zawa'id' (3/65), at-Tabarani in 'al-Mu'jam al-Kabir' (13/36), and al-Albani declared it Saheeh in 'as-Silsilah as-Sahihah' (# 3357)]


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    Answer: This group that has left the Muslims, rebelling against them – this is the result of disassociating oneself from the scholars. I mentioned the consequences of this during the last part of the (previous) lecture. They broke away from the scholars, broke away from the Muslim leaders, and the disbelievers and hypocrites put these ideologies into their heads. So, they’ve become outcasts in Muslim societies. They are Khawaarij, no doubt. This act of theirs is the act of the Khawaarij. Rather, they’re even more violent and extreme than the (original) Khawaarij. The (past) Khawaarij didn’t use to destroy buildings and residents. The Khawaarij used to show up face-to-face on the battlefield. They used to fight on the battlefield despite what they were upon of ignorance. But they didn’t used to collapse buildings on everyone who’s in them – women, children, the innocent, those at peace with Muslims, people with whom Muslims have a treaty, people guaranteed safety. The Khawaarij used not to do this. This is worse and more violent than the actions of the (original) Khawaarij. This is more like the actions of the Qaraamitah (a severely violent, misguided sect). They’re more like the Qaraamitah because the actions of the Qaraamitah are secret, based on secrecy and underhandedness and what these people today do is also based on secrecy. The (former) Khawaarij – their actions were not kept hidden and secret; they would make themselves and their objectives known, publicly announcing them. So, these people are even worse than Khawaarij.

    Shaykh al-fawzan is very much right about the khawarij but its obvious he doesnt know who the khawarij are today,here is a hadith which makes it clear..

    It was narrated by Abu Sa`id al Khudri , ?When `Ali was in Yemen, he sent some gold in its ore to the Prophet (s). The Prophet (s) then distributed it among Al-Aqra bin Habis al-Hanzali who belonged to Bani Mujashi, Uyaina bin Badr al-Fazari, Alqama bin Ulatha Al-Amiri, who belonged to the Bani Kilab tribe and Zaid al-Khalik At-Ta?i who belonged to Bani Nabhan. Then the Quraish and the Ansar became angry and said; ?He gives to the chiefs of Najd and leaves us!? The Prophet (s) said, ?I just wanted to attract and unite their hearts.? Then there came a man with sunken eyes, bulging forehead, thick beard, fat raised cheeks and clean shaven head and said, ?O Muhammad, fear Allah!? The Prophet (s) said, ?Who would obey Allah if I disobeyed Him? He trusts me over the people of the earth, but you do not trust me?? A man from the people, who, I think, was Khalid ibn al-Walid, asked for permission to kill him, but the Prophet (s) prevented him. When the man went away, the Prophet (s) said, ?Out of the offspring of this man there will be people who will recite the Qur?an but it will not go past their throats, and they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes our through the game. They will kill the Muslims and leave the pagans. If I were to be present when they appear, I would kill them as the killing of the nation of Ad.? (Sahih al Bukhari, V. 9, hadith 527)

    They will kill the Muslims and leave the pagans. If I were to be present when they appear, I would kill them as the killing of the nation of `Ad. (Sahih al Bukhaari, V. 9, hadith 527)

    So from this hadeeth, we can say that they kill the Muslims and leave alone the Mushrikeen (sounds like the Tughaat of today).


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    Question: You find among some of the youth people who don’t consider what’s occurred of bombings and similar actions (to be evil). They approve of, or try to validate some actions of this group…

    Answer: Such a person is either one of two things: He’s either 1) ignorant, giving them the benefit of the doubt. And to him, you clarify their faults to him, and explain them until his misconception about them is gone.
    “There will continue a portion of my Ummah who fulfil the command of Allah, it doesn’t harm them who disagrees with them or lets them down.” [Bukhari]

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    2) he’s behind them, supporting their ideas. He’s has the same belief as they do and shares their ideas. To him too, you clarify the truth, so perhaps he may return back.
    “Those who have a weak heart will hurry to them (and start to praise them) and say, “we feared a calamity might come to us,” and Allah may bring the conquest or change their situation… they should blame nobody but themselves …” [5: 52]


    Quote Originally Posted by Hajjaj View Post
    If he doesn’t return back (to truth), then his sin is upon himself. Unless of course it appears he himself may disrupt peace and safety or attempt to deceive other Muslims; in that case it’s an obligation to inform (the authorities) about him.
    You (O Muhammad) will not find any people who believe in Allaah and the Last Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allaah and His Messenger (Muhammad), even though they were their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred (people). [Al-Qur’an: Soorah al Mujaadilah (58:22)].

    Spying can be Kufr (disbelief), if it is done for the sake of helping the disbelievers against the believers. Such an action takes the person out of the fold of Islaam and makes him an apostate because it entails supporting the disbelievers against the believers

    Scholars have differed concerning the punishment reserved for the one who engages in spying and espionage spy depending on his status.The correct opinion however is that he is to be killed and his repentance is not accepted as is stated by numerous scholars. Imam Sahnun rahimahullah said:
    If a Muslim corresponds with ahl al-Harb (people that the Muslims are at war with), he is to be killed and is not asked to repent

    Ibn al-Qasim rahimahullah said:
    He (spy) is to be killed and it is not known that he is to be asked for repentance. He is like a Zandiq.(Aqidatur- Rasul, Muhammad Faraj, Page 191).


    Shaykh ul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullah said:
    Imam Malik and a group of Imam Ahmads companions (Hanbali scholars) hold the opinion that the spy is to be killed.(Majmu Al-Fatawa Vol 28. Page 109)

    The Muslims readily attack and condemn other Muslims because they commit terrorist acts, yet they do not know that Terrorism is obligatory in Islam against the enemy of Allah. Neither do they believe in terrorism nor do they know that the kuffar are our enemies and the enemies of Allah; resulting that they ally with them against other Muslims. In this time when all the kufr is spread and all the batil is prevalent, when people are leaving the deen of Islam without to know, it is essential for there to be Muslims rising to command good and forbid evil, to address and elaborate these issues for the people so that the Haq may prevail and confront the batil.

    scholars who only know to pass fatwas but have never spent a drop of blood or even sweat,who falsely call themselves on the way of salaf but who never want to be like imam abdullah bin mubarak(rh),who have never taken a stand against injustice or spoken the truth in front of the rulers the way our salaf did and who condemn those who defend their religion and brethren should learn from these wild buffaloes..........

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