Sh Umar AbdurRahman (fa)

[Abdul Haaq]

aswrwb, i need some info on the noble sheikh, a full bio etc and also what statements he made that Abu Usamah At-thahabi attempted to refute. Jzk

[y-mughal]

[waziri]

Asalamualaykum,


Has Anyone got the devils deception of the 21st century house niggas?


wasalam

[al-Athari]

aswrwb, i need some info on the noble sheikh, a full bio etc and also what statements he made that Abu Usamah At-thahabi attempted to refute. Jzk

http://www.tawhed.ws/a?i=378

[Abdul Haaq]

http://www.tawhed.ws/a?i=378

afwan akhie, i need it in english, jazak Allahu khairun.

[al-Athari]

afwan akhie, i need it in english, jazak Allahu khairun.

My fault bro, I don't think I've ever seen an eng. version of his bio. What were the statemtents Abu Usama tried to refute?

[sunni_sister]

As Salam Alay Kum,

Abu Usumah did not only try to refute statements but he tried to refute the Sheikh's entire manhaj and beleifs, Abu Usumah labelled him a khawrij i.e dog of hell and he kept on stating that the Sheikh should never be allowed out, due to his evil influence on the evil jihadis.

Abu Usumah did a talk on Jihad in 2006 Green Lane Masjid ( not jihad for sake of Allah, jihad for the sake of America) and some brothers asked him the following questions,

Where is Jihad ?, he never answered instead he stated silence is better option.

He was also asked if he still held the same belief's regarding the Sheikh, he stated yes that his opinion has not changed.

Also by Allah, only recently maybe 2 weeks back, some brother's who my husband is very close with were eating in a take out, when they were approached by a revert brother from Green Lane, who went over to them asking if they wished to attend a talk by Sh Abu Usumah, at this point the companions of my husband stated that Abu Usumah is an enemey of Allah and a khawrij due to his beleif's regardinng Sh Abdur Rehman, at this the revert replied that is a lie and that Sh Abdur Rehman is a spy for America and works for the CIA with the aim of destroying Islam.

By Allah the above happened last month.

May Allah free the Sheikh and make those who eat his flesh die upon the hypocrisy that they are living upon.

The Sheikh is a true hero of Islam.

[Umm]

May Allah free the Sheikh and make those who eat his flesh die upon the hypocrisy that they are living upon.

You should prefer that they make tawbah, instead of hoping they die on hypocrisy.

[Abdul Haaq]

the reason why i asked and this may clarify things is that i was fed up of hearing abu usamah mention jihad or Sh.UAR so often even when there was no need to, i had seen many brothers take the harsh approach to no avail as Abu U is not someone that takes kindly to it and is quite stubborn in that way, so i decided to take a softer approach and ask him what exactly his beliefs are and why he has to mention them. He responded in a good manner and said he was willing at any time to discuss any issues which people think he has made mistakes and would do it at anytime aslong as it was discussed in the right manner.

For along time i had heard Abu U did this and did that testified in court etc etc so i wanted this clarified.

Abu U says he has no problem with the 'person' of Sh. UAR but 'hates' some of the 'deviant' ideas that he spread. He considers the sheikh to be muslim and when i told him i love the Sh and make duaa for him, he said he has no problem with that and that every muslim is deserving of duaa no matter what.

there are very few people in my local area who have the right aqeedah and who are not apologetic on many issues and eventhough abu usamah has shown his hatred towards Sh.UAR views i have come to the conclusion based upon an answer given by Sh.Abu Basir (ha) that it is allowed to take basic knowledge from this guy even if he does not agree with things i believe in aslong as i do not fear for my deen.

[sunni_sister]

You should prefer that they make tawbah, instead of hoping they die on hypocrisy.

I myself would not ask for their guidance but others can do so, I dont wish to make dua for muslims who get other muslims arrested and co-operate with the authority's to humiliate those with differences in belief's and then accuse them of being spies.

Since when did America rape their spies and crack their skulls open and give 5year prison sentences to their female lawyers who themselves are Americans, the spies are the ones working on behalf of taghoot and justifying there actions and rulership.

I did not hear Abu Usumah or any of his followers amongst brothers as well as sisters making dua for the guidance for the undercover sufi who worked for dispatches.

They all labelled him a munafiq and a dog they never said may Allah guide him, Sister Umm, every group makes this sort of dua, so we are no different, when we ask Allah to destroy these people as they not only label Sh Abdur Rehman deviant and khawrij, if you heard the talk by Sh Faisal
'21st CenturyHouse Niggers'

You would hear Abu Usumah stating that anyone who does takbir on the battlefield is an innovator, so he has labelled all the mujaideen innovators for they all do takbir from the lions of Khattab ra to the lions of every single jihad in the world.

So sister when people can call mujaideen innovators and their ulema khawrij, and call the kafir rulers 'muslims' then these people are more dangerous then the Jews or Christians. We need to stop living in a society where we beleive in unity upon falsehood, next people will be saying dont call for the destruction of the kuffar who rape and kill muslims but make dua for their guidance, whats the difference between the enemy within and the clear enemy, the enemy within is even more dangerous.