Tony Blair joins Catholic Church
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His wife and children are ...
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Tony Blair joins Catholic Church
Former prime minister Tony Blair has left the Anglican Church to become a Roman Catholic.
His wife and children are already Catholic and there had been speculation he would convert after leaving office.
Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor, who led the service to welcome Mr Blair, said he was "very glad" to do so.
Last year, Mr Blair, who is now a Middle East peace envoy, said he had prayed to God when deciding whether or not to send UK troops into Iraq.
And one of Mr Blair's final official trips while prime minister was a visit to the Vatican in June where he met Pope Benedict XVI.
'Regular worshipper'
Mr Blair was received into full communion with the Catholic Church during Mass at Archbishop's House, Westminster, on Friday.
Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor, who is the head of Catholics in England and Wales, said: "I am very glad to welcome Tony Blair into the Catholic Church.
"For a long time he has been a regular worshipper at Mass with his family and in recent months he has been following a programme of formation to prepare for his reception into full communion.
"My prayers are with him, his wife and family at this joyful moment in their journey of faith together."
The Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams, leader of the Anglican church, wished the former prime minister well in his spiritual journey.
He said: "Tony Blair has my prayers and good wishes as he takes this step in his Christian pilgrimage."
Northern Ireland
Downing Street confirmed the prime minister had converted, but said it was a private matter and it would not comment further.
But the former Conservative government minister, Ann Widdicombe, who became a Catholic in 1993, told the BBC Mr Blair's move raised some questions.
"If you look at Tony Blair's voting record in the House of Commons, he's gone against Church teaching on more than one occasion. On things, for example, like abortion," she said.
"My question would be, 'has he changed his mind on that?'"
But Mr Blair's biographer, Anthony Seldon, said the former prime minister's faith had always been a major influence on his politics.
Mr Seldon said: "He's a profoundly religious figure. Religion brought him into politics in the first place, not reading Labour Party history.
"Catholicism has been the religion of his wife - Cherie Blair has been incredibly important to him throughout his political life, encouraging him to go into politics and adopting many of his positions, so I think it was the obvious part of the Christian faith for him to come into."
Northern Ireland
There has never been a Roman Catholic prime minister of Britain, although there is no constitutional barrier to such a move.
However, it had in the past been suggested that Mr Blair would wait until after leaving office, to avoid possible clashes such as over his role in appointing Church of England bishops.
Catherine Pepinster, editor of Catholic magazine The Tablet, said the news was not quite the same as if Mr Blair had changed Churches while still prime minister.
"I understand that one of the issues he was concerned with, because he was so closely involved in negotiations over peace in Northern Ireland, that perhaps some people there might have been uncomfortable with the prime minister converting to Catholicism at such a time.
"This situation is different. Although he remains a public figure now, and clearly has a role to play in the Middle East, it isn't perhaps quite the same."
'Nutter' fear
Mr Blair's ex-spokesman, Alastair Campbell, once famously told reporters "We don't do God," but has since said that his former boss "does do God in quite a big way".
Mr Blair last year told ITV1 chat show host Michael Parkinson he had prayed while deciding whether to send troops into Iraq.
"In the end, there is a judgement that, I think if you have faith about these things, you realise that judgement is made by other people... and if you believe in God, it's made by God as well," he said.
And earlier this year, he told the BBC that he had avoided talking about his religious views while in office for fear of being labelled "a nutter".
The news of his conversion comes as a document showed Mr Blair had raised "concern" over ongoing business negotiations in a letter about an investigation into a Saudi arms deal.
Days later the probe was dropped, and Mr Blair said the decision to stop it was taken because of national security, and was not linked to commercial interests.
"The most notable traits in their character are unbounded superstition, pride, cupidity and a most vengeful spirit [...] They despise all other races [...] They glory in being robbers, admit they are avaricious, and cannot deny the reputation they have acquired for faithlessness."
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May god guide him to islam
May Allah open his heart, give him him tawfiq and hidayah.
Ameen........
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The Booths are staunch catholics , I am sure his wife played a huge role in his conversion.
Deeds are your money on the day of judgement , make sure you collect plenty now.
Say (O Muhammad SAW):"I am not a new thing among the Messengers (of Allâh) (i.e. I am not the first Messenger) nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am but a plain warner." (Al-Ahqaf 46:9)
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as salaam
there are some rumors that catholic and orthodox churches will unite. how much true are those rumors??
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Originally Posted by
Sultan Abdul Hameed Khan
as salaam
there are some rumors that catholic and orthodox churches will unite. how much true are those rumors??
Wa 'alaykum usalaam.
Thats not going to happen in UK any time soon , they still go to separate schools.
Deeds are your money on the day of judgement , make sure you collect plenty now.
Say (O Muhammad SAW):"I am not a new thing among the Messengers (of Allâh) (i.e. I am not the first Messenger) nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am but a plain warner." (Al-Ahqaf 46:9)
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assalamu'alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
what's so special if one becomes a catholic christian? he is still a kaafir and if he dies in this state , jannah will be haram for him..
I pray Allah opens his and his family's heart and make them hardcore muslims ameen
Last edited by juwairiyah; 23rd December 2007 at 10:01 AM.
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Originally Posted by
alkathiri
May god guide him to islam
May Allah open his heart, give him him tawfiq and hidayah.
Ameen........
Either That...
Or
May Allah destroy him for murdering our Muslim Brothers and Sisters.
Hasan al-Basree (rh) said, when he heard a group of people disputing, “These ones have tired of worship, speaking has become easy for them and their piety has diminished, so they talk.”
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May Allah Never Guide Him Or His Family The Catholic Faith In Secret Will Be Honouring Him So Much For Killing So Many Muslims Oh Muslims Make Dua For The Muslims Who Have Been Killed By This Man Not Make Dua For Him
The Only Dua I Make For Him Is That He Burns Next To Pharoan In The Fire Of Hell Stop Acting Like Humanitarians And Making Dua For His Guidance Follow The Angel Gabraeel (as) When He Put The Mud Of The River Into The Mouth Of Pharoan For The Angel Feared That Pharoan Was To Repent And That Allahs Mercy Would Have Reached Him So I Ask The Lord Of The Mighty Throne Not To Guide Any Black Hearted Leader Of The Kufar Including The Rulers Of Ksa The Killers Of Iraqi Children
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Originally Posted by
sword_of_islam
The Only Dua I Make For Him Is That He Burns Next To Pharoan
Subhan'Allah, even Musa (`alayhisalam) was commanded: ÝÞæáÇ áå ÞæáÇ áíäÇ áÚáå íÊÐßÑ Ãæ íÎÔì 'And speak to him (Fir'awn) with gentle words, perhaps he may remember or fear Allah'
"Never let anybody tell you and me that the odds are against us - I don't even want to hear that... The odds are against you only when you're scared... When you get all of that fright off of you, there's no such thing as odds against you." - Malcolm X
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Originally Posted by
abumuwahid
May Allah destroy him for murdering our Muslim Brothers and Sisters.
Ameen.
"The Jews and Nazarenes will never be satisfied with you until you follow their way of life." [al-Baqarah: 120]
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