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    As Salaamu`alaykum,

    I received an email few days ago from people i usually ignore, but i wanted to know more about this one cause they are claiming that Yusuf Estes is spreading statements of disbelief. I wanna know what people here thinks. This is the email:

    Serious Errors of Yusuf Estes in Basic Muslim Creed

    August 26, 2012 AbdurRahman.org Edit Leave a comment
    Beware of the dangerous beliefs of Yusuf Estes! He has been spreading statements of disbelief about the Quran over the past 10 years or so unchecked! He has openly propagated on Huda TV and other mediums:

    • What is in the mus-haf is not considered Quran.
    • The Quran is only Quran when it is recited.
    • The Mus-haf Represents the Real Quran in al-Lowh al-Mahfooth, like how paper money represents stored wealth.
    • The written Quran is similar to sheet music for Christian hymns.
    • We can not see or touch the Quran, we can only hear it.
    • Allah has not preserved the Quran written in the mus-hafs.

    And other statements of disbelief and innovation, resembling the Jahmiyyah of old.
    In this e-book prepared for free and unlimited distribution you can:

    • Read the actual statements of Yusuf Estes, word-for-word.
    • Compare between his corrupt teachings and the pure understanding of Islam from the Book, the Sunnah, and the imaams of the Salaf.
    • Find out what one of todays scholars has said about him.
    • Discover the shocking source of his knowledge, someone he considers one of the true scholars of Islam! (You wont believe it!)

    Download the e-book now, and equip yourself with knowledge of Islam, so you dont fall for one of the many calls to innovation:

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    the people who are spreading these accusations against Yusuf Estes and accusing him of making statements of disbelief, should first apply the same criteria upon the King of Saudi. Because the Saudi king has made quite horrific statements which one could use as an argument to claim he is an apostate. Yet you'd never see these people warning against him. But rather they pick up mistakes and errors of common people or Du3aat and they magnify it to discredit people.
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    Madkhalis doing what they do best.

    Take a statement of the da'ee. Exaggerate and sensationalise to create a "warning" against da'ee. Cast doubts on sincerity of anyone that does not agree.

    Repeat with next target, until none are left standing, except a small band of "approved" scholars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abul hafsa View Post
    Madkhalis doing what they do best.

    Take a statement of the da'ee. Exaggerate and sensationalise to create a "warning" against da'ee. Cast doubts on sincerity of anyone that does not agree.

    Repeat with next target, until none are left standing, except a small band of "approved" scholars.
    Madkhalis this Madkhalis that, bla bla dont you get bored of saying the same crap all the time. It doesnt matter if its true and they are protecting the sound aqueedah ,if a madkhali said it then we have to defend the one being accused. Its because you have no love for the aqueedah rather you just care about jihad and those who are fighting kuffar. Walek what do you say about the statements of yusuf estes supporting Bush sending troops into afganistan! Wa A'uthibiAllah



    wach from 5.56 and prove to everyone you follow you foolish desires my brother in islam.
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    Since when did this texan become a mufti...

    The fitna in that ayat he quoted means shirk but the texan cowboy says it means terrorism.

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    Yusuf Estes has lost it.

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    SubhanAllah, Bush was following the command of Allah when he sent troops to Afghanistan? The old man has no shame!

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    Quote Originally Posted by abumuwahid View Post
    Since when did this texan become a mufti...

    The fitna in that ayat he quoted means shirk but the texan cowboy says it means terrorism.
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    He is only following the ulema sultan of Bin Baz & co. They, like him discounted what's in this video of Iraq.



    The sequence of events were:

    1. Red Cross estimates one million iraqi kiddies dead from sanctions
    2. U.N. issues report saying 570,000 iraqi children dead from sanctions.
    3. Mujahideen strike Khobar Towers in the U.S. Air force base in Saudi Arabia
    4. Ulema sultan declare the blood of the mujahideen halal for killing the honoured guests (mustamineen) of the saudi king.
    5. 911

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