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    As-Salam Alaykum,

    I am creating this thread since it is badly needed nowadays. I admit that most of what I am posting is not backed by anything I have read from classical books, since I am not a student of knowledge. Rather, it is just based on what I have witnessed from the behavior of Ustadh Ayman bin Khaled, a real gem of a person. May Allah [swt] reward him! No other man can tolerate my stupidity as much as he can!

    1. Start with "as-salam alaykum" and "bismillah".

    This will cool your heart and purify your intention. You will give the person salam (peace), and you will also start in the Name of Allah [swt]; few people can curse someone out after they say bismillah!

    2. Begin with praise before criticism.

    If you are going to criticize someone, then start out with praise. For example, if you are going to criticize Dr. Zakir Naik for something he said which was wrong, then start with praise, acknowledging all his good work in the field of dawah. This is a part of softening the heart and purifying the intention as well (since you won't post any of this if you are just posting to bash him, instead of with the intention to give naseeha). So this will be like "We recognize and appreciate your tireless efforts in the field of dawah and inter-faith debate."

    3. Use a title of respect to refer to the person, such as "brother", or "Ustadh" or "Shaykh", etc, if the latter are appropriate. Add words around this to beautify your speech, such as "esteemed Shaykh" or "my beloved brother", etc. Such titles are MORE IMPORTANT to use when criticizing someone. You can refer to someone as "Anwar" if you are just talking about him normally, but when you are giving criticism of him, then it becomes VERY IMPORTANT to say Imam Anwar. And it would be even better to say the word "HafidhuAllah" after his name...make sure to do all these things *every* time you mention his name!

    4. Begin by asking for forgiveness for criticizing, such as "Forgive me for my audacity, dear Shaykh" and the like.

    5. Try to reconcile views. This is where I have seen Ustadh Ayman seriously excel at. Two people could be arguing about something, and they are in fact saying stuff that is opposite to each other...but to soften and reconcile the hearts, the Ustadh will reconcile what the two are saying, so that both parties don't think that they were TOTALLY wrong. So it is something like this: "Brother Bassam you are correct in saying this-and-this, but in certain situations such as this-and-that, then brother Fareed is correct in saying that"....and things like "actually you are not saying two opposite things, rather..." etc

    Indeed, you really have to see Ustadh Ayman do this to know what I mean!

    6. Close with du`a, but never say "may Allah guide you" or anything else which is understood as an insult. It is sad how oftentimes we use du`as as insults! If you really wanted Allah [swt] to guide a person, then say that quietly in your own room; no need to announce it to that person's face. Rather, that is done to make it clear to the person that he is misguided! So the intention is not to actually pray to Allah [swt] but to insult another person! So what is better is to include yourself in the du`a, saying "may Allah [swt] guide you and I to all that which is right." This will soften the hearts, and ensure that no ill intent was meant!

    7. Avoid using nicknames and labels. This is very important, because this is what hurts peoples' feelings the most. So one should not call another person a "defeatist" or a "khariji" [this is me using tip #6 in giving naseeha ] ...such labels should be avoided...even when a person is doing something that falls under that category, still avoid it! The Quran says:

    "Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong." (Quran, 49:11)

    And nicknames like "o degenerate" and "o wicked one" are not to be used, so what of these worse labels that we invent against each other?

    8. Speak in general terms, and do not single out the person,
    but rather warn the person of those other people, keeping it general. So instead of saying "you are deaf, dumb, and blind", say "O brothers and sisters, remember that the Quran describes the kufaar as 'deaf, dumb, and blind...' so let us not be like that insha-Allah!" Always try to include yourself in whatever you say.

    9. Do not post now, but post after 30 minutes. Chances are you will cooler after 30 minutes, and won't post the same way. (This is courtesy of bro Jund al-Islam.)

    10. Use smiley faces all over the place. If you don't believe in smiley faces, then you can write out the word "smile" as Ustadh Ayman does. *smile* Smiling softens the hearts, and so it should be done in its e-form, insha-Allah.

    11. End with praise of the person and ask for forgiveness. So this is the sandwich approach, whereby your criticism is packaged between praise.

    More to come insha-Allah....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salahadeen View Post
    As-Salam Alaykum,
    wa 'alaykumassalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh,

    Jazaak Allahu khairan for the very beneficial tips.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salahadeen
    9. Do not post now, but post after 30 minutes. Chances are you will cooler after 30 minutes, and won't post the same way. (This is courtesy of bro Jund al-Islam.)
    Actually, I got that tip from a sister on this forum. She posted a thread with that advice. It was one of the Ummahaat, though sadly I can't remember which one. May Allah reward them all.
    DISCLAIMER: Before you read any of my posts or accept any of my arguments, keep in mind that the above has been posted by a layman who, in most cases, would have been better off keeping silent.
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    And he who carries injustice will have failed.
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    ah, this thread deserves a sticky but some people just make it so hard for you to talk to them in a good manner, you feel me bro Salaah?

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    Wa alaykum as-salam.

    Quote Originally Posted by jund-al-islam View Post
    Actually, I got that tip from a sister on this forum. She posted a thread with that advice. It was one of the Ummahaat, though sadly I can't remember which one. May Allah reward them all.
    Oh, ok. May Allah [swt] reward you for transmitting it to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baghdadi View Post
    ah, this thread deserves a sticky but some people just make it so hard for you to talk to them in a good manner, you feel me bro Salaah?
    I know. It is very very very hard to contain oneself when insulted.

    "Victory is changing the hearts of your opponents by gentleness and kindness" -Saladin

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    Wa'alaykum salaam wa rahmatullaah

    A good thread. JazaakAllaah khayr Bro.

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    Bismillah.

    Ibn Adam (not to be confused with Abdullah ibn Adam) who posted the following:
    Quote Originally Posted by Ibn Adam View Post
    Muhammad al-Shareef gave some golden advice on al-maghrib once:
    If you find your heartbeat pumping real hard DON'T POST. Write what you wish to say in a word document, save it, and then re-read 24 hours later. You'll be surprised what nonsense Shaytaan can make us say when we get angry. A'oodho billaahi minash shaytaanir rajeem.
    DISCLAIMER: Before you read any of my posts or accept any of my arguments, keep in mind that the above has been posted by a layman who, in most cases, would have been better off keeping silent.
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    And [all] faces will be humbled before the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of existence.
    And he who carries injustice will have failed.
    [20:111]

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    For example:

    as-Salamu 'alaykum most reverend, holy Salahadeen, defender of the oppressed, scourge of vice, itinerant carrot-salesman extraordinaire, veteran of Gharam Massala, noble seer...etc etc. Forgive my audacity, most noble one and most pre-eminent of the sages of our age- forgive me for profaning your sacred name with my humble pen. A thousand pardons, sahib, from this lowly slave, who does not deserve so much as a casual glance from your myopic eyes. I am the dust under your feet, my liege. It would be absolutely unconscionable of me to mention the epithet 'Neo-Con' with reference to your illustrious self. It would violate the immutable laws of ethics, the universal consensus of all ages and all peoples, and most of the articles of the Consitution of the United States of America. O people! Remember that it is immoral to be stupid, so be not stupid, and be not guilty of Neo-Conservatism.
    I do love you bro, though
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    Oh Damn.. ROFL!! That was hillarious, bro WM!
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    Actually it was pretty bad (- not funny). I do love the brother, though . I'm working on something else...a bit longer. I want to run it by AZ first insha Allah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WM View Post
    For example:



    I do love you bro, though
    haha.

    funny guy

    "Victory is changing the hearts of your opponents by gentleness and kindness" -Saladin

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