Khalid Yasin with Omar Bakri?

[NAveed]

anjem chowdhury seems to be intelligent.
he is a lawyer
does he not see through this man
who has done great damage to the true meaning of courage ,dignity,mercy of islam

[Daniel]

anjem chowdhury seems to be intelligent.
he is a lawyer
does he not see through this man
who has done great damage to the true meaning of courage ,dignity,mercy of islam

Because the way the former al-Muhajiroun operates. If one questions (not even criticize) certain positions of the group and its leadership than one is immediately suspect or worse. It is not a group that tolerates dissent, similar to the crowd that hangs around the likes of Abu Khadijah or Dawud Adib.

[NAveed]

IF omar bakri told me tottenham was in north
London..i would check on a map to check it wasnt
in south london

[Deenin']

Yeah man, if I saw Bakri on the udnerground in London, I would walk the other way. He's a scary looking dude.

I think I did saw him actually...

He has this look about him, has anyone else noticed it?

This look, you know that look I'm talking about. Like a dodgy look. Next time just look.. LOOK... I can see something in his face... You can see it too, if you look 'ard enough.

Well dodgy mate.

Well dodgy.

[thefitrah]

It is not a group that tolerates dissent, similar to the crowd that hangs around the likes of Abu Khadijah or Dawud Adib.

By the way what has happened to Dawud Adib. From his earlier material he seemed like a good, outspoken and sincere brother not involved in the extremities of the Madhkali lot. Whats his situation at the moment?

[Daniel]

By the way what has happened to Dawud Adib. From his earlier material he seemed like a good, outspoken and sincere brother not involved in the extremities of the Madhkali lot. Whats his situation at the moment?

What? Are you sure your thinking about the right Dawud Adib? This man is one of the most vicious and ruthless of the American Madkhaliyyah. From what I know he is living in Egypt for the moment.

[thefitrah]

Are you sure your thinking about the right Dawud Adib?

yeh same man. he obviously made some sort of diversion to becoming such a vicious spokesman for the madhkhali cult. im sayin that due to me reading a refutation of him from members of that particular group years back. also his old lectures on the state of the ummah were very unlike the usual slanderous and defeatist deliveries that one has come to associate with the Madhkalis. something odd must have happened along the way.

its weird coz usually sincre salafi du'at wake up from a state of taqleed and extremism of the madhkalis to a more balanced and objective SALAFI approach.

This brother (dawud) seems to have done the opposite.

[Abu Hafsa]

Just some advice, Deenin and any others, please keep the criticisms based upon knowlege and evidences, or real personal experiences which cause distrust, not personal attacks on how one looks or the like. Barakallah Feekum.

[Abu Nihla]

Despite the takleed mentality p-ple have on the issue of bin Baaz, wa riyadhubillah i don't give a damn on what OBM said about him. His careless FATWA made thousands of Muslims die and it acted as a pillar for the moral degeneration of Islam in Arabia.

The so called achievements of his efforts were destroyed when he added the kuffur poison to a clean glass of milk.

He helped in the killing of thousands of innocent Muslims in Iraq that is well more harmful than the ones who hero worship him.

Call a spade a spade

[Suhaib Jobst]

It is important that one looks at himself in the mirror and ask himself an honest question: 'Do I have the tendency of going to extremes in whatever I follow?'

But at the same time, if the evidence is there to support a certain action or belief, then we should not use Kaffir standards of "extremism" to judge it. By its true Islamic definition, extremists are those who exceed the bounds of Islam. So the self-proclaimed "moderates" are considered extremists in our Deen.

The reason I say this is due to your past Nazi leanings in hatred for the Jews, and then following the most extreme of all opinions in Islam.

I don't have "past Nazi leanings", per se. For awhile, I was under the illusion that we should cooperate with anyone who shares the same enemies as us. But since October, I have abandoned this view and come to the realization we should only rely on ourselves.

And even when I did cooperate with them, I never held their ideas on race, which I view as way too materialist, abstract, and plebian. On the contrary, I was open in criticizing them on this point. I shared with them opposition to Zionism and Jewish domination, but realized we need only rely on ourselves. The future belongs to Islam, not any Kaffir man-made ideology.

Re Juhayman's writings... I haven't come across any... have you?

No, but Shaykh Abu Muhammad Al-Maqdisi (fakallahu asrah) mentions them in Millat Ibrahim.

It is not to do with age alone. It is more to do with experience. And of course, the younger you are, the more inexperienced you are. And come on, you are only twenty-one and there is A LOT - and I mean A LOT - for you to learn and experience.

I agree - I have the intelligence, masha'Allah. But I do lack the experience that only comes with age.