Khalid Yasin with Omar Bakri?

[Yousef al Khattab]

Despite the takleed mentality p-ple have on the issue of bin Baaz, wa riyadhubillah i don't give a damn on what OBM said about him. His careless FATWA made thousands of Muslims die and it acted as a pillar for the moral degeneration of Islam in Arabia.

The so called achievements of his efforts were destroyed when he added the kuffur poison to a clean glass of milk.

He helped in the killing of thousands of innocent Muslims in Iraq that is well more harmful than the ones who hero worship him.

Call a spade a spade

Asalam Aleikoum Wr Wb,

I am a simple Muslim pedicab driver and I 2nd this brother's position. I am not a scholar or even a student of a student of knowledge, but alhumdulilah I do have a brain and common sense. (and no I am not a mtazila . It seems that many of us are ex-Madkhalis of different strains perhaps but all from the same batil garbage ideology. The Madkhalah have hardened many of our hearts so much that many that proclaim the title of "Jihadi Salafi" are really no better in matters of Taqleed and there unconditional support for the 4 'Infallible' Imams
Ibn Uthaymene,Bin Baz,al-Albani,& Muqbil despite there contradictions to the Qur'an and Sunnah . Really it does not end here, I have noticed to knock Asharis, and Sufis (most of the time these are one in the same) is constant and always, but to raise a voice against the supporters of Satanic regimes,their Fatwa givers and loyalists that occupy all of our Muslim lands will never be heard by these starch supporters of 'No Taqleed'.
I propose a new type of Salafi This Salafi group should take as it's flag bearer Ibn Taymiah ra because I believe he was far more 'Salafi' than Mohamid abdel Wahab a man that went against a Khalifa and stopped Sharia from being instituted in Muslim lands and replaced it with the biggest crime of the previous century. Ya Ikhwan it is easy to make fun of Sufis, and Sheikhs that are in ill health, or those locked up for the rest of their lives, because you know they wont break your face! Let me see those same people denounce the wrongs of the above Scholars and move forward to establish Allah's perfect religion on earth. I have personally see the same people that proclaim they hate Khawarij, call themselves Jihadi Salafi, then call me a Jasous or anyone that does not care about the 4 'infallible' Imams or Mohamid abdel Wahab. My deen is not based on any of the above 5 mentioned nor will it be lacking w/o the use of their books or ideas (accept for the Book Millat Ibrahim that quotes MAW).
I remind myself and all reading this that I sincerely love every Muslim for the sake of Allah, and hope this post acts as a bull whip on our behinds to get moving calling to Shari3a and boycotting all that did, does, and will propagate against it's (Sharia/Khalifa) establishment.

Hayakoum Allah,
Akhoukoum Fillah Yousef al-Khattab
http://www.al-buruj.com

[Suhaib Jobst]

Wa Alaykum as-Salaam,

many that proclaim the title of "Jihadi Salafi" are really no better in matters of Taqleed and there unconditional support for the 4 'Infallible' Imams Ibn Uthaymene,Bin Baz,al-Albani,& Muqbil despite there contradictions to the Qur'an and Sunnah.

Our support for these four scholars is certainly conditional. We don't take their positions against the Mujahideen or, in the case of Albanee, neo-Murji'ee tendencies. But there are also so many good things from these scholars, that is simply ignored by the Madkhaliah. I advise you to check out At-Tibyan, which has some excellent words from these figures.

This Salafi group should take as it's flag bearer Ibn Taymiah ra because I believe he was far more 'Salafi' than Mohamid abdel Wahab a man that went against a Khalifa and stopped Sharia from being instituted in Muslim lands and replaced it with the biggest crime of the previous century.

How can you say this about Imam Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab (rahimahullah)?! He was the Reviver of the Deen in his century, the Mujahid who fought against the enemies of Tawheed. We cannot and should not judge him based on the actions of the Salool family.

It is not true the Shaykh "went against a Khalifa". The Ottomans had no real authority in the Peninsula. Also, Shirk was very widespread among the Ottomans, as were deviations and perversions of all sorts, and they had ceased to rule entirely by Shari'ah.

In any case, the Caliph should be Quraishi and it is permissible to go out against the Khalifah if he commits Kufr al-Akbar. The Shaykh and the Imam during his time most certainly did rule by Shari'ah - and your beloved Ottomans crushed them when their pure Islamic Da'wah threatened the influence of their deviance.

then call me a Jasous or anyone that does not care about the 4 'infallible' Imams or Mohamid abdel Wahab.

No one ever claimed the abovementioned four were "infallible". And how can anyone have this hostility against Shaykh al-Islam Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab (rahimahullah)? Just because the Salool family and Madkhaliah claim to follow him does not mean he would have approved of them. Quite the contrary!

My deen is not based on any of the above 5 mentioned nor will it be lacking w/o the use of their books or ideas (accept for the Book Millat Ibrahim that quotes MAW).

In theory, yes. But no one expounded upon Tawheed better than Shaykh al-Islam Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab (rahimahullah). There are few books that can compare to Kitab at-Tawheed, Thalatah Usool, or Masaa'il Jahiliyyah.

[Yousef al Khattab]

Wa Alaykum as-Salaam,



Our support for these four scholars is certainly conditional. We don't take their positions against the Mujahideen or, in the case of Albanee, neo-Murji'ee tendencies. But there are also so many good things from these scholars, that is simply ignored by the Madkhaliah. I advise you to check out At-Tibyan, which has some excellent words from these figures.



How can you say this about Imam Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab (rahimahullah)?! He was the Reviver of the Deen in his century, the Mujahid who fought against the enemies of Tawheed. We cannot and should not judge him based on the actions of the Salool family.

It is not true the Shaykh "went against a Khalifa". The Ottomans had no real authority in the Peninsula. Also, Shirk was very widespread among the Ottomans, as were deviations and perversions of all sorts, and they had ceased to rule entirely by Shari'ah.

Asalam Aleikoum Wr Wb,
Actuallay akhi the politicly correct way of saying this by the Taqleedi Salafis is 'he was used and misinformed by the British". But in fact his support of the ibn Saud family and his grandchildren's stances all seem to being supporting the saud family. The Hijaz was ruled by Hanafi fiq and just the oposite the books written in that time were written by men not that had the Sharia behind them. Had the Saudi allie the USA attacked ANY land under the Othmaniyeen the khalifa would protect that land, we see the opposite with the Saud family and all the feces that have stolen our lands today.

In any case, the Caliph should be Quraishi

majority opinion, there is a minority opinion that does not see it this way.


and it is permissible to go out against the Khalifah if he commits Kufr al-Akbar. The Shaykh and the Imam during his time most certainly did rule by Shari'ah - and your beloved Ottomans crushed them when their pure Islamic Da'wah threatened the influence of their deviance.

You mean my beloved Muslims,also I would like to address the way perhaps the women that the 'Shaikh' and the "Imam' treated the women of the Khalifa and the Sufis. I am doing some research on this now so as of yet I can not post it. Inshallah soon.

No one ever claimed the abovementioned four were "infallible". And how can anyone have this hostility against Shaykh al-Islam Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab (rahimahullah)? Just because the Salool family and Madkhaliah claim to follow him does not mean he would have approved of them. Quite the contrary!


Akhi, just look at Tibyan's and other 'Mainstream Salafis' unequivocal support for these people. I read and take much from Tibyan and to a lesser degree from the big 4. Islam existed b4 these people and will exist after them. I am not here to blast them, but I am sure as hell not going to promote them. I will not accept any position that I feel contradicts Allah's perfect law. Call me a Renegade,Takferi,Jewish Spy,Kharji call me anything but just please never call me a supporter of The Tawgheet or their supporters, because this is truly the greatest slander.





In theory, yes. But no one expounded upon Tawheed better than Shaykh al-Islam Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhab (rahimahullah). There are few books that can compare to Kitab at-Tawheed, Thalatah Usool, or Masaa'il Jahiliyyah.

I personally find these books very hard to understand and get alot more out of Sh.Omar abdel Rahman,Abu Hamza Masri,Sayid Qutub, and the like. Alhumdulilah I am a Muslim not a Salafi,or Salafi Jihadi,or a Ikhwani,etc etc. This way I can read all and not be stuck under the banner of any of these ahzab or their ideologies.

Hayak Allah Ya Akhi,
Akhouk Fillah Yousef al-Khattab
http://www.al-buruj.com

[abu_ibrahim]

I believe he was far more 'Salafi' than Mohamid abdel Wahab a man that went against a Khalifa and stopped Sharia from being instituted in Muslim lands and replaced it with the biggest crime of the previous century.

Assalamu Alaykum,

Let me get this straight, you are blaming a man who died in 1792, that is over 200 years ago for our problems?

How can the biggest crime of the previous century be his fault, when he was not even alive in the previous century?

[Yasir]

I propose a new type of Salafi This Salafi group should take as it's flag bearer Ibn Taymiah ra because I believe he was far more 'Salafi' than Mohamid abdel Wahab a man that went against a Khalifa and stopped Sharia from being instituted in Muslim lands and replaced it with the biggest crime of the previous century.

I don't know if that accusation against Imam Ibn 'Abd al-Wahhaab is valid, but nevertheless, why not take the Prophet sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam and the actual salaf as the flag bearers? No-one is questioning the innumberable great contributions made by Imam Ibn Taymiyyah and his students towards Islam, but was he rahimahullah "more salafi" than say, Imam Malik or Imam Ahmad?

I'm sure Imam Ibn Taymiyyah would have advocated that people look to the Sunnah and the guidance of the earlier generations... than to argue over who is more worthy of being followed, amongst the later people.

[Yousef al Khattab]

Assalamu Alaykum,

Let me get this straight, you are blaming a man who died in 1792, that is over 200 years ago for our problems?

How can the biggest crime of the previous century be his fault, when he was not even alive in the previous century?

Waaleikoum Asalam Wr Wb,

I am blaming anyone that supported a revolt against a Khalifa as bad as that Khalifa may have been as long as the area was legislating by Sharia and it was at that time. Anyone that helped bring it down was and is responsible. Yes MAW was a Alim and his books are splendid, but we have many Scholars like this today great in Aqeedah and Fiq but destructive in Politics and Imamiyah and Bayah. Akhi, I am not here to blast this scholar or speak ill of him,just telling you why I try to stay away from promoting him. My concern is a Sharia State inshaallah BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

Allah Maak,
Akhouk Yousef al-Khattab
http://www.al-buruj.com

[Yousef al Khattab]

I don't know if that accusation against Imam Ibn 'Abd al-Wahhaab is valid, but nevertheless, why not take the Prophet sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam and the actual salaf as the flag bearers? No-one is questioning the innumberable great contributions made by Imam Ibn Taymiyyah and his students towards Islam, but was he rahimahullah "more salafi" than say, Imam Malik or Imam Ahmad?

I'm sure Imam Ibn Taymiyyah would have advocated that people look to the Sunnah and the guidance of the earlier generations... than to argue over who is more worthy of being followed, amongst the later people.

Asalam Aleikoum Wr Wb

Dear Akh you are correct inshallah next time I will try to be more careful expressing myself. Prophet Mohamid alehi salat wsalam was the greatest example his companions and the next 2 generations.
I was being sarcastic, and of course I agree with what you have said.

Jazak Allah Khair,
Akhouk Fillah Yousef al Khattab
http://www.al-buruj.com

[thefitrah]

Akhi if it wasnt for the likes of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab, the penninsula may well still be filled with grave worship and sorcery.

Many people who pride themselves on being Salafi today may well not even have been upon the correct Aqeedah

This man revived the Sunnah and drew from great scholars like Ibn Taymiyyah, Imam Ahmed. if u read his works there is very little commentary from himself.

he never sided with the Kuffar against the Muslims, there exists letters from him which he wrote to the then Caliph of the time, acknowlegding his leadership.

His main concern was ridding the Shirk and Bidah that was so prevalent in the pennisula.

This enlightening lecture by brother Ahmad Jibril may clear up the misconceptions or relieve the doubters:

http://ahmadjibril.com/audio/Legends...m%20-%2006.mp3

Wa Salaam

[y-mughal]

Akhi if it wasnt for the likes of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab, the penninsula may well still be filled with grave worship

It still is - have you not noticed the idol called 'King Abdullah' (A'doo'Allah in reality) in the Arabian peninsula and his magicians (the grand Mufti et al).

[thefitrah]

It still is - have you not noticed the idol called 'King Abdullah' (A'doo'Allah in reality) in the Arabian peninsula and his magicians (the grand Mufti et al).Yeah well the Saudi family betrayed the trust they had with Ibn Abdul Wahab. But careful calling the shuyukh magicians.

If there were no scholars at all in the establishment, Saudi would be a hell of alot worse than it already is, and so would the leadership