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    Q: What is the ruling on celebrating Christmas & New Year?

    Praise be to Allaah.

    Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said
    in his commentary on the aayah (interpretation of the meaning), "And
    those who do not witness falsehood [al-zoor]." [al-Furqaan 25:72]:
    As regards the festivals of the mushrikeen: they combine confusion,
    physical desires and falsehood, there is nothing in them that is of any
    religious benefit, and the instant gratification involved in them only
    ends up in pain. Thus they are falsehood, and witnessing them means
    attending them.

    This aaayah itself praises and commends (those who do not witness
    falsehood), which has the meaning of urging people to avoid taking
    part in their festivals and other kinds of falsehood. We understand
    that it is bad to attend their festivals because they are called al-zoor
    (falsehood).

    It indicates that it is haraam to do this for many reasons, because
    Allaah has called it al-zoor. Allaah condemns the one who speaks
    falsehood [al-zoor] even if no-one else is harmed by it, as in the
    aayah forbidding zihaar [a form of divorce in which the man says to
    his wife "You are to me like the back of my mother"], where He says
    (interpretation of the meaning): ". And verily, they utter an ill word
    and a lie [zooran]." [al-Mujaadilah 58:2]. And Allaah says
    (interpretation of the meaning): ". So shun the abomination of idols,
    and shun lying speech (false statements) [al-zoor]." [al-Hajj 22:30].
    So the one who does al-zoor is condemned in this fashion.

    In the Sunnah: Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him)
    said: "The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be
    upon him) came [to Madeenah] and they had two days in which they
    would (relax and) play. He said, "What are these two days?" They
    said, "We used to play (on these two days) during the Jaahiliyyah."
    The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon
    him) said: "Allaah has given you something better instead of them:
    Yawm al-Duhaa [Eid al-Adha] and Yawm al-Fitr [Eid al-
    Fitr]." (Reported by Abu Dawood).

    This indicates clearly that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah
    be upon him) definitely forbade his ummah to celebrate the festivals
    of the kuffaar, and he strove to wipe them out by all possible means.
    The fact that the religion of the People of the Book is accepted does
    not mean that their festivals are approved of or should be preserved
    by the ummah, just as the rest of their kufr and sins are not approved
    of. Indeed, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)
    went to great lengths to command his ummah to be different from
    them in many issues that are mubaah (permitted) and in many ways of
    worship, lest that lead them to be like them in other matters too. This
    being different was to be a barrier in all aspects, because the more
    different you are from the people of Hell, the less likely you are to do
    the acts of the people of Hell.

    The first of them is: The hadeeth "Every people has its festival, and
    this is our festival" implies exclusivity, that every people has its own
    festival, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): "For every
    nation there is a direction to which they face (in their prayers)
    ." [al-Baqarah 2:148] and ". To each among you, We have
    prescribed a law and a clear way." [al-Maa'idah 5:48]. This
    implies that each nation has its own ways. The laam in li-kulli ["for
    every", "to each"] implies exclusivity. So if the Jews have a festival
    and the Christians have a festival, it is just for them, and we should
    not have any part in it, just as we do not share their qiblah (direction
    of prayer) or their laws.

    The second of them is: one of the conditions set out by 'Umar ibn al-
    Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) and agreed upon by the
    Sahaabah and by all the Fuqaha' after them is: that those of the
    People of the Book who have agreed to live under Islamic rule (ahl
    al-dhimmah) should not celebrate their festivals openly in Daar al-
    Islam (lands under Islamic rule). If the Muslims have agreed to
    prevent them from celebrating openly, how could it be right for the
    Muslims to celebrate them? If a Muslim celebrates them, is that not
    worse than if a kaafir does so openly?

    The only reason that we forbade them to celebrate their festivals
    openly is because of the corruption involved in them, because of the
    sin or symbols of sin. In either case, the Muslim is forbidden from sin
    or the symbols of sin. Even if there was no evil involved apart from
    the kaafir feeling encouraged to celebrate openly because of the
    Muslim's actions, how can a Muslim do that? The evil involved (in
    their festivals) will be explained below, in sha Allaah.
    Al-Bayhaqi reported with a saheeh isnaad in Baab karaahiyat aldukhool
    'ala ahl al-dhimmah fi kanaa'isihim wa'l-tashabbuh bihim yawmi nawroozihim
    wa maharjaanihim (Chapter on the abhorrence
    of entering the churches of ahl al-dhimmah on the occasion of their
    New Year and other celebrations): From Sufyaan al-Thawri from
    Thawr ibn Yazeed from 'Ata' ibn Deenaar who said: 'Umar said: "Do
    not learn the language of the non-Arabs, do not enter upon the
    mushrikeen in their churches on their feast-days, for the wrath (of
    Allaah) is descending upon them."
    'Umar ibn al-Khattaab said: "Avoid the enemies of Allaah on their
    festivals."

    By Sajid Ahmed Umar
    PART 2- TO FOLLOW

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    t was reported with a saheeh isnaad from Abu Usaamah: Awn told
    us from Abul-Mugheerah from Abd-Allaah ibn Amr: Whoever
    lives in the land of the non-Arabs and celebrates their New Year and
    their festivals, and imitates them until he dies in that state, will be
    gathered with them on the Day of Resurrection.

    Umar forbade learning their languages, and even entering their
    churches on the day of their festival, so how about doing some of the
    things they do on those days, or doing things that are a part of their
    religion? Is not going along with their actions worse than learning
    their language? Is not doing some of the things they do on their
    festival worse than just entering upon them? If divine wrath is
    descending upon them on the day of their festival because of what
    they do, then is not the one who does what they do, or a part of it, also
    exposed to the same punishment? Do not the words Avoid the
    enemies of Allaah on their festivals mean that we should not meet
    them or join them on those days? So how about the one who actually
    celebrates their festivals?

    Abd-Allaah ibn Amr clearly stated: Whoever lives in the land of
    the non-Arabs and celebrates their New Year and their festivals, and
    imitates them until he dies in that state, will be gathered with them on
    the Day of Resurrection.

    This implies that the one who joins in with them in all of these
    matters is a kaafir, or that doing this is one of the major sins
    (kabaair) that will doom one to Hell; the former meaning is what is
    apparent from the wording.

    He mentioned and Allaah knows best the one who lives in their
    land, because at the time of Abd-Allaah ibn Amr and the other
    Sahaabah, they used to forbid open celebration of kaafir festivals in
    the Muslim lands, and none of the Muslims imitated them in their
    festivals; that was possible only when living in the lands of the
    kaafirs.

    Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) refused to even acknowledge
    the name of their festivals which were exclusively theirs, so how
    about actually celebrating them?

    Ahmad mentioned the meaning of the reports narrated from Umar
    and Ali (may Allaah be pleased with them) on this topic, and his
    companions discussed the matter of festivals.

    Imaam Abul-Hasan al-Aamidi said: the one who is known as Ibn al-
    Baghdaadi said in his book Umdat al-Haadir wa Kifaayat al-
    Musaafir: It is not permitted to attend the festivals of the Christians
    and Jews. Ahmad stated this in the report of Muhannaa, and his
    evidence for that is the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): And
    those who do not witness falsehood [al-zoor] [al-Furqaan 25:72].
    He said: (This is) al-Shaaaneen and their festivals. He said: The
    Muslims are to be prevented from entering upon them in their
    synagogues and churches.

    From Iqtida al-Siraat al-Mustaqeem Mukhaalifat Ashaab al-Jaheem by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn
    Taymiyah, p. 183.

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    very good, was talking to someone about this issue and this is an excellent talk by Ibn Taymiyyah.

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    My little daughter just asked if it's true that today is New Year's Eid.
    Made me laugh, it seems she thought she was in for more presents.
    "There is accountability in blood and money."
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    I was wondering about this in the light of the tafdil and taqdis issue. Maybe Abuz Zubair could give us his opinion as he once brought this up.

    My guess is that there's no taqdis in celebrating new year (well, atleast around here) but there seems to be tafdil of it (which seems to be indicated by the new year's promise and the "this day is the day of change" thingy and the big big party which has to be demonstrated by fireworks etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Nuh View Post
    I was wondering about this in the light of the tafdil and taqdis issue. Maybe Abuz Zubair could give us his opinion as he once brought this up.

    My guess is that there's no taqdis in celebrating new year (well, atleast around here) but there seems to be tafdil of it (which seems to be indicated by the new year's promise and the "this day is the day of change" thingy and the big big party which has to be demonstrated by fireworks etc).
    The entire Arab world, including many scholars congratulate each other saying: Kull 'Aam wa antum bi khayr (which is grammatically wrong anyway).

    I haven't heard of any scholar criticising people over it except Sh Salih al-Fawzan who called it a bid'a.

    I am not disputing the prohibition of New Years Eve, but only mentioning it as a fact that it happens in the Muslim world and people do 'celebrate' it by saying: Kull Aam wa Antum Bi Khayr without a word of criticism from the scholars (except for Sh Salih al-Fawzan)

    This shows that the prohibition of celebrating new years eve is NOT because we only have two Eids and therefore, cannot have a 3rd recurring non-religious celebration. Rather, the prohibition mentioned by 'Abdullah b. Amr was specifically referring to Nayruz, which is a new year for the fire worshippers, i.e. it is a religious festival.

    Besides, Iqtidha al-Sirat is a lot longer than a couple of pages and the passage where he mentions taqdees and tafdeel is central to understanding this issue.

    This whole issue of celebration is like the issue of tashabbuh, i.e. we cannot imitate a people in their khasa'is - things which distinguish them from all other religions. I.e. we cannot wear skull caps because they are particularly for the Jews. If tomorrow, however, they are no longer identified with the skull cap, it becomes permissible for the Muslims to wear it to, just as the prayer hats we wear today, were once a distinguishing sign for the Jews, on the basis of which the companions forbade people from wearing them.

    Similarly, celebrations that are particular to certain religions or ideologies are Haram for us take part in. But other non-religious or non-ideological celebrations, like a company celebrating its financial year, for example, is perfectly ok. A birthday is no different.
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    Are we allowed to go to birthday dinners? And take a present?

    Im suffering. The lady next doors been screeching to abba for the past hour. I dont think i've ever hated new years eve this much ppl.

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    Hamdulilah,the cretins of S.London were reasonably quite this New Years,The Yardie drug dealer and mouthy slapper of a woman i.e him gyal next door is testing me though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abuz Zubair View Post
    A birthday is no different.
    Are you saying that a birthday is not a religious celebration?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Wild West View Post
    Are you saying that a birthday is not a religious celebration?
    for some it may be for others it may not be.

    As I said previously, if a father feels happy that his son turned one, and decides to bring home some cake and crisps, he is effectively 'celebrating' birthday. But according to Shaykh Haytham, that is okay, as long as he doesn't do it on a large scale (if you remember, you were there too)
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