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Brianstorming session to help brother Shahid Bolsen

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    Assalamualaikum

    My family would like to announce that we will try to set up a brainstorming session on how we can help Brother Shahid on his case, this Tuesday, (26th June) between 13:00 - 15:00 hours GMT.

    He is jailed in the UAE for allegedly killing a German engineer. His side of the story was skewed and twisted by the media and he has not had a fair representation at all.
    We believe that the UAE government can be persuaded to take corrective action towards their due process failures. However, action must be taken and we believe that we can make a change if we all act together.

    We are not related to Brother Shahid by blood. We have no official capacity to do anything to help him. His family cannot afford to travel to the UAE to help him.
    We hope to do something for the sake of Allah and earn His reward here and the hereafter.

    Hoping for your response dear brothers and sisters.
    Forgive us for our shortcomings and please accept our invitation to the brainstorming session.

    Ma'asalaamah
    Umm Jameel

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    Default Re: Brianstorming session to help brother Shahid Bolsen

    asalaamu alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuh


    Where will the session take place sister?

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    Default Re: Brianstorming session to help brother Shahid Bolsen

    assalaamu alaikum

    Due to other commitments I can't help except by making du'a. I met him in the UK many, many years ago and I think he did a couple of lectures for us. When this story broke myself and the brothers who met him were REALLY shocked because the media portrayed him as some kind of nutter whereas, he came across as nothing but a quiet and gentle human.

    Keep up the good work and I hope you can get his case reviewed.

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    Wa Alaykum As Salam

    From what we can read here : UAE Death Penalty, Shahid has admitted to killing the German engineer but is asking for the sentence to be reduced to manslaughter so that he can escape the death penalty.

    What exactly do you want us to help you with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbuSulaiman View Post
    assalaamu alaikum

    Due to other commitments I can't help except by making du'a. I met him in the UK many, many years ago and I think he did a couple of lectures for us. When this story broke myself and the brothers who met him were REALLY shocked because the media portrayed him as some kind of nutter whereas, he came across as nothing but a quiet and gentle human.

    Keep up the good work and I hope you can get his case reviewed.
    He does admit to killing the engineer, no?

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    from the site

    In June 2006, Martin Herbert Steiner suffered a fatal reaction to chloroform inhalation when Shahid attempted to tranquilize him to stop him from sexually assaulting Foziah Nagash in Shahids apartment.

    Mr. Steiner had become hostile and aggressive when he discovered that he had been invited to the flat under false pretenses. Expecting a sexual encounter, he instead, for an intervention style session on moral guidance counseling.

    He forced himself upon Ms Nagash (
    Ethiopian housemaid )and a struggle ensued ending in his unexpected death. In a state of panic, Shahid removed Mr Steiners body from the flat and left it in a shallow grave in a remote area in off the Dubai Hatta road.
    About SKB | Leniency for SKB

    here are some case related answers from brother
    SKB Interview | Leniency for SKB
    The law of Allah should not be voted over. To give the people the choice whether to apply Sharia or not reflects a fundamental problem in the understanding of Tawhid. - Imam Anwar Awlaki


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    From all the reports that I read on the case he definitely killed the german. That is not being disputed.

    The prosecution claims that it is murder.

    Shahid claims that it is manslaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mu'awiya View Post
    asalaamu alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuh


    Where will the session take place sister?
    Wa alikum salam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abumuwahid View Post
    From all the reports that I read on the case he definitely killed the german. That is not being disputed.

    The prosecution claims that it is murder.

    Shahid claims that it is manslaughter.
    That is correct.

    However, Shahid has been sentenced to death by shooting squad without having his side of the story or any rules of evidence being followed in the case.

    If you look at the Due Process failures section of the site : Due Process Failures | Leniency for SKB You will learn more.

    Shahid did not even have a proper translator during court. On the two Court sessions that i have attended with my children's Arabic language tutor, I was told that the translation was very very poor.
    They simply summarized Shahid's statements in 1 or 2 lines and that's the end.

    Shahid's lawyer is a government appointed lawyer. His family cannot afford a private lawyer. The lackadaisical attitude by the lawyer is because he has nothing gain(financially) from working on Shahid's case.

    As to what our family expects out of this brainstorming session.
    We want to think of ways to get the attention of the ruling families here to take corrective action towards the due process failures in Shahid's case.

    The brain storm is to think of ways to reach them and
    what other ways we can attempt to get the Court to
    1) listen to Shahids side of the story, and make a rational judgement.
    2) to correct their due process failures
    3)Get them to change the sentence for manslaughter instead of murder

    Please have a look at the Islamic Law section Islamic Law | Leniency for SKB

    How can the brother be sentenced to death? That's the question that my family cannot grasp./fathom.
    and the UAE law section of the site.
    UAE Law | Leniency for SKB

    Umm Jameel

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    As Salamu Alaikum

    Having read the interview with Shahid, have misgivings of his version of events.

    I think that he lured the German to his flat on the premise that there would be some encounter with the Ethiopian maid. His version of events just does not gel. I think he just wanted to rob the guy but had no intentions of killing him. The death was accidental. He had no idea that the German engineer would react so disastrously to the chloroform.

    Apart from my misgivings of this case, Shahid has my support, mostly for the reason that there is no Qiyas in the case of a kafir killed by a Muslim.

    The majority of the jurists uphold the impermissiblility of Qisas in the case of a non-Muslim killed by a Muslim, regardless of whether or not the killing was intentional. This is the strongest view based on upon an authentic Hadeeth in which the Prophet (s.a.w.) unequivocally prohibited Qisas against a Muslim for the killing of a non-Muslim.
    Here, he it should be stated to avoid any misinterpretation about differentiation between a Muslim and a non-Muslim in the Sharia; that the right of Qisas is a provision in the Sharia accorded to those who believe in the Sharia .

    Islamic Law | Leniency for SKB
    May Allah save Shahid from an unjust death.

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