Brianstorming session to help brother Shahid Bolsen
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Brianstorming session to help brother Shahid Bolsen Assalamualaikum
My family would like to announce that we will try to set up a brainstorming session on how we can help Brother Shahid on his case, this Tuesday, (26th June) between 13:00 - 15:00 hours GMT.
He is jailed in the UAE for allegedly killing a German engineer. His side of the story was skewed and twisted by the media and he has not had a fair representation at all.
We believe that the UAE government can be persuaded to take corrective action towards their due process failures. However, action must be taken and we believe that we can make a change if we all act together.
We are not related to Brother Shahid by blood. We have no official capacity to do anything to help him. His family cannot afford to travel to the UAE to help him.
We hope to do something for the sake of Allah and earn His reward here and the hereafter.
Hoping for your response dear brothers and sisters.
Forgive us for our shortcomings and please accept our invitation to the brainstorming session.
Ma'asalaamah
Umm Jameel
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Re: Brianstorming session to help brother Shahid Bolsen assalaamu alaikum
Due to other commitments I can't help except by making du'a. I met him in the UK many, many years ago and I think he did a couple of lectures for us. When this story broke myself and the brothers who met him were REALLY shocked because the media portrayed him as some kind of nutter whereas, he came across as nothing but a quiet and gentle human.
Keep up the good work and I hope you can get his case reviewed.
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- 22nd June 2012 #4
Re: Brianstorming session to help brother Shahid Bolsen Wa Alaykum As Salam
From what we can read here : UAE Death Penalty, Shahid has admitted to killing the German engineer but is asking for the sentence to be reduced to manslaughter so that he can escape the death penalty.
What exactly do you want us to help you with?.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..............................................
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Re: Brianstorming session to help brother Shahid Bolsen .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..............................................
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Bin Baz said: 'And indeed some Mushrikun claimed that their intention from worshipping the Prophets and the pious people, and from taking idols as lords beside Allah (swt), was to bring them near to Allah (swt) and gain the intercession through them to Allah (swt), Praise and Glory be to Him. But Allah (swt) rejected that and refuted it by saying: "And they worship besides Allah (swt) things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say `these are our intercessors with Allah (swt)'. Say `Do you inform Allah (swt) of that which he knows not in the Heavens and on the Earth?' Glorified and Exalted be He above all that which they associate as partners with Him!"
- 22nd June 2012 #6
Re: Brianstorming session to help brother Shahid Bolsen from the site
About SKB | Leniency for SKBIn June 2006, Martin Herbert Steiner suffered a fatal reaction to chloroform inhalation when Shahid attempted to tranquilize him to stop him from sexually assaulting Foziah Nagash in Shahid’s apartment.
Mr. Steiner had become hostile and aggressive when he discovered that he had been invited to the flat under false pretenses. Expecting a sexual encounter, he instead, for an intervention style session on moral guidance counseling.
He forced himself upon Ms Nagash (Ethiopian housemaid )and a struggle ensued ending in his unexpected death. In a state of panic, Shahid removed Mr Steiner’s body from the flat and left it in a shallow grave in a remote area in off the Dubai Hatta road.
here are some case related answers from brother
SKB Interview | Leniency for SKBThe law of Allah should not be voted over. To give the people the choice whether to apply Sharia or not reflects a fundamental problem in the understanding of Tawhid. - Imam Anwar Awlaki

- 22nd June 2012 #7
Re: Brianstorming session to help brother Shahid Bolsen From all the reports that I read on the case he definitely killed the german. That is not being disputed.
The prosecution claims that it is murder.
Shahid claims that it is manslaughter................................................... .................................................. .................................................. ..............................................
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Bin Baz said: 'And indeed some Mushrikun claimed that their intention from worshipping the Prophets and the pious people, and from taking idols as lords beside Allah (swt), was to bring them near to Allah (swt) and gain the intercession through them to Allah (swt), Praise and Glory be to Him. But Allah (swt) rejected that and refuted it by saying: "And they worship besides Allah (swt) things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say `these are our intercessors with Allah (swt)'. Say `Do you inform Allah (swt) of that which he knows not in the Heavens and on the Earth?' Glorified and Exalted be He above all that which they associate as partners with Him!"
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Re: Brianstorming session to help brother Shahid Bolsen That is correct.
However, Shahid has been sentenced to death by shooting squad without having his side of the story or any rules of evidence being followed in the case.
If you look at the Due Process failures section of the site : Due Process Failures | Leniency for SKB You will learn more.
Shahid did not even have a proper translator during court. On the two Court sessions that i have attended with my children's Arabic language tutor, I was told that the translation was very very poor.
They simply summarized Shahid's statements in 1 or 2 lines and that's the end.
Shahid's lawyer is a government appointed lawyer. His family cannot afford a private lawyer. The lackadaisical attitude by the lawyer is because he has nothing gain(financially) from working on Shahid's case.
As to what our family expects out of this brainstorming session.
We want to think of ways to get the attention of the ruling families here to take corrective action towards the due process failures in Shahid's case.
The brain storm is to think of ways to reach them and
what other ways we can attempt to get the Court to
1) listen to Shahids side of the story, and make a rational judgement.
2) to correct their due process failures
3)Get them to change the sentence for manslaughter instead of murder
Please have a look at the Islamic Law section Islamic Law | Leniency for SKB
How can the brother be sentenced to death? That's the question that my family cannot grasp./fathom.
and the UAE law section of the site.
UAE Law | Leniency for SKB
Umm Jameel
- 23rd June 2012 #10
Re: Brianstorming session to help brother Shahid Bolsen As Salamu Alaikum
Having read the interview with Shahid, have misgivings of his version of events.
I think that he lured the German to his flat on the premise that there would be some encounter with the Ethiopian maid. His version of events just does not gel. I think he just wanted to rob the guy but had no intentions of killing him. The death was accidental. He had no idea that the German engineer would react so disastrously to the chloroform.
Apart from my misgivings of this case, Shahid has my support, mostly for the reason that there is no Qiyas in the case of a kafir killed by a Muslim.
May Allah save Shahid from an unjust death.The majority of the jurists uphold the impermissiblility of Qisas in the case of a non-Muslim killed by a Muslim, regardless of whether or not the killing was intentional. This is the strongest view based on upon an authentic Hadeeth in which the Prophet (s.a.w.) unequivocally prohibited Qisas against a Muslim for the killing of a non-Muslim.
Here, he it should be stated to avoid any misinterpretation about differentiation between a Muslim and a non-Muslim in the Sharia; that the right of Qisas is a provision in the Sharia accorded to those who believe in the Sharia .
Islamic Law | Leniency for SKB.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..............................................
Failing to declare the kufr of the Tawaagheet is calling to the Fire and obstructing revival
Very Important. Please click on link below to read.
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f...revival-35183/
Bin Baz said: 'And indeed some Mushrikun claimed that their intention from worshipping the Prophets and the pious people, and from taking idols as lords beside Allah (swt), was to bring them near to Allah (swt) and gain the intercession through them to Allah (swt), Praise and Glory be to Him. But Allah (swt) rejected that and refuted it by saying: "And they worship besides Allah (swt) things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say `these are our intercessors with Allah (swt)'. Say `Do you inform Allah (swt) of that which he knows not in the Heavens and on the Earth?' Glorified and Exalted be He above all that which they associate as partners with Him!"
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