Priest Tells UK Women: “Submit” to Husbands!

**DhulQarNain** · 13th February 2010

CAIRO – A Church of England priest has urged women to “submit” to their husbands, raising the ire of women as keeping with “dark ages”, reported the Guardian on Saturday, February 13.

“Wives are to submit to their husbands in everything in recognition of the fact that husbands are head of the family as Christ is head of the church,” reads a leaflet issued by rector Angus MacLeay.

“This is the way God has ordered their relationships with each other and Christian marriage cannot function well without it.”

MacLeay, a member of the General Synod, also urged women to keep “silent” when asked questions that could be answered by their husbands.

“It would seem that women should remain silent … if questions could legitimately be answered by their husbands.”

The comments were backed by MacLeay’s curate, who blamed the behavior of “modern” women for the high divorce rate in Britain.

“We know marriage is not working. We only need to look at figures – one in four children have divorced parents,” curate Mark Oden told worshippers on Sunday congregation.

“Wives, submit to your own husbands.”

Anger

The comments drew ire of women parishioners, who described them as keeping with “dark ages”.

“How can they talk that way in the 21st century?” a female parishioner said.

“No wonder the Church is losing touch if this is the kind of gobbledegook they want us to believe it.”

The parishioner vowed to shun the Church until it reconsiders its position.

“I will not be going back to that church and will have to seriously consider my faith if this is the nonsense they are spouting now.”

The Church of England preachers were also accused of having a “medieval” mentality.

"What kind of medieval sermon is that? We are not in the 15th Century?” said another woman parishioner.

“I have already cancelled my direct debit to the church.”

But the Church of England preachers rejected the accusations.

“I am passionate about helping people to have healthy marriages,” said Oden, a married father of three.

“I did not set out to unnecessarily offend people, but I stand by what God has said in his word, the Bible.”
MacLeay, the Church Vicar, also defended his position.

“There are times when the Bible challenges modern society,” he said.

“It recognizes that women are fully equal to men, but it also recognizes that in certain areas of life they may have different roles.”

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**abuhannah** · 14th February 2010

the church needs more men like this,that aside Rector Angus MacLeay you ever thought about coming to Islam?....

**khilji** · 14th February 2010

Anger

The comments drew ire of women parishioners, who described them as keeping with “dark ages”.

“How can they talk that way in the 21st century?” a female parishioner said.
I mean we are in an age were Britain has reached epedemic teenage pregnancy and in a decade or so we can be renamed as BAsterdistan

“No wonder the Church is losing touch if this is the kind of gobbledegook they want us to believe it.”
If we were to take his advice we could slowly take steps towards a more tranquil society where kids in Britain can come home
to a coopperative family not a Mumy And Dady and milkman sandwich, I mean who wants that for our future when we got femenism which means women sink low enough to degrade them selves for men and thinking they are equals or in control

The parishioner vowed to shun the Church until it reconsiders its position.
yeh unless you stop preaching what it says in that Bible and just repeat to us what we want you to say it says in christianity or what our whims and desires say then we will shun you

“I will not be going back to that church and will have to seriously consider my faith if this is the nonsense they are spouting now.”
I heard Satan says the opposite and as long as I've been coming here I thought I will be Ok but it looks like God doesnt want me to follow Satan and if that is the case then I'll reconsider my faith

The Church of England preachers were also accused of having a “medieval” mentality.

"What kind of medieval sermon is that? We are not in the 15th Century?” said another woman parishioner.
I mean we dont burn witches at stakes any more but we are more sofisticated now the witches are role models now

“I have already cancelled my direct debit to the church.”
And will be keeping my sky direct debit

But the Church of England preachers rejected the accusations.

“I am passionate about helping people to have healthy marriages,” said Oden, a married father of three.
The mistresses have to go, get married to them instead

“I did not set out to unnecessarily offend people, but I stand by what God has said in his word, the Bible.”
MacLeay, the Church Vicar, also defended his position.
you will only offend the imoral

“There are times when the Bible challenges modern society,” he said.

“It recognizes that women are fully equal to men, but it also recognizes that in certain areas of life they may have different roles.”

This guy should be supported

**abu 'eesa** · 14th February 2010

Originally Posted by khilji

This guy should be supported

Hmm... I wonder what the Christian version of al-Wala wal-Bara is...

**Invictus_88** · 14th February 2010

Originally Posted by abu 'eesa

Hmm... I wonder what the Christian version of al-Wala wal-Bara is...

Al-Wala wal-Bara?

**abu 'eesa** · 14th February 2010

Could translate as:

Alliance and Amity, Disavowal and Enmity

**Abu Aziza** · 14th February 2010

not bothered!
even if they allowed polygamy its still gonna be a false religion.
its not a religion of Allah, its man made so they can change the rules when they feel like.
i read some comments here that this guy should be supported, in what? worshipping 3 gods?
we might as well support the shia, at least they have some islamic fiqh.

**khilji** · 15th February 2010

by suport him I mean with what he is going thru in his church as in waking up to some truths and recognising that there is a problem with decay in this society and try to find common ground with what Islam says and demonstrates how to solve those problems he is pointing out.

Obviously in a million years they wont be solved unless they as a society recognise the oneness of God Almighty and shun others appointed as partners or equals to God, may be they should try start with the Bible were it says Jesus said God said Shall I tell you the highest commandment, it is that Thou shall not take for worship any other gods except for Me and Thou shall not bow down to any engraved immages whether on heavens nor the land nor bellow the waters, for I am a jealous God and ... i'll post wen i remember more

**khilji** · 15th February 2010

Originally Posted by Abu Aziza

not bothered!
even if they allowed polygamy its still gonna be a false religion.
its not a religion of Allah, its man made so they can change the rules when they feel like.
i read some comments here that this guy should be supported, in what? worshipping 3 gods?
we might as well support the shia, at least they have some islamic fiqh.

Na they probably will use their fiqh against us seeing their trend these days, as far as I know They are the closer enemy and maybe more if not equally worse.