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InshAllah or In shaa Allah?

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    I had visions of brothers making takfeer on each other over the text!



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    '(O Umar!) May Allah bestow His Mercy on you. I always hoped that Allah will keep you with your two companions, for I often heard Allah's Messenger (sallahu alyhi wa salam) saying, ' I, Abu Bakr and Umar were (somewhere). I, Abu Bakr and Umar set out.'
    So I hoped that Allah will keep you with both of them.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scented Blood View Post
    I had visions of brothers making takfeer on each other over the text!
    InshaaAllah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scented Blood View Post
    I got this in a text last night. What say you all?
    If when I try and interpret an Arabic Word into English and it is spelt wrong why does it matter when my intentions are pure?

    This is the nature of the complex phonetics in Arabic language, even your mates solution is wrong. If it bothers people so much why not request to have the Arabic text in the "emotion icon" menu?

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    The Arabic is إن شاء الله

    The English transliteration would be, as it is pronounced, In Shā'a llāh

    The Hamzah you are pronouncing in the middle is not from the beginning of the word Allah;, rather it is from the end of شاء.

    The Hamzatul Wasl in the beginning of the word "Allah" is not pronounced here since it has occurred in the middle of a sentence.

    I added an 'a' after the Hamzah (represented by the ' sign), as the is the Fatha on the Hamzah of شاء.

    That is one of the better ways. If you are lazy and don't want to locate the special letters, then just type:

    In Sha'a llah,

    or as one English word

    Insha'allah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fajr View Post
    The Arabic is: إنْ شَاءَ اللهُ so if someone wants to be really specific, they can write it as 3 separate words: In Sha' Allah. The same for Ma Sha' Allah.
    That's another way to write it. In this sense, you are stopping (Waqf) on each word. That would make it In + Shaa' + Allah. The Hamzatul Wasl on Allah would be written (although not pronounced) because in writing, you stopped on Shaa'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Shawarma View Post
    I always write it as inshaa Allah
    That's wrong. Why separate Allah, but not In from Shaa'a?

    Quote Originally Posted by IbnMuhammed View Post
    what about insh'Allah?
    That's wrong. Sorry. No need for ' after Insh. Doesn't make sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnonyMousey View Post
    I always go with "Insha'Allah"
    That's wrong. Why the Caps Lock on the A?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abu Idris Al-Albani View Post
    InshaaAllah.
    That's wrong. There is no indication of a Hamzah in the middle. You need ' in the middle. And the caps lock is wrong, since it is not the Hamzah of Allah; but rather it is the Hamza of شاء that has a Fatha, hence shaa'a, or shā'a, or simply sha'a.

    Sorry guys. I'm a bit specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harris Hammam View Post
    That's wrong. Why the Caps Lock on the A?
    I think it's due to showing respect to the "word" (lafdh al-jalala) Allah.
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    There is a reason I adopted using inSha'a ALLAH, Capitalization does it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harris Hammam View Post
    The Arabic is إن شاء الله

    The English transliteration would be, as it is pronounced, In Shā'a llāh

    The Hamzah you are pronouncing in the middle is not from the beginning of the word Allah;, rather it is from the end of شاء.

    The Hamzatul Wasl in the beginning of the word "Allah" is not pronounced here since it has occurred in the middle of a sentence.

    I added an 'a' after the Hamzah (represented by the ' sign), as the is the Fatha on the Hamzah of شاء.

    That is one of the better ways. If you are lazy and don't want to locate the special letters, then just type:

    In Sha'a llah,

    or as one English word

    Insha'allah.
    But say if I have a brummy accent it will still be pronounced all funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harris Hammam View Post
    That's wrong.
    That's nonsense - unless you're going to quote ijma' on transliteration.

    I don't think 'inshAllah' would be correct though as you're not representing either the alif or hamzah.
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    i mix both, i say inshaAllah
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