Hilyat-ul Awliya Wa Tabaqat al-Asfiya
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- 17th July 2008 #1
Hilyat-ul Awliya Wa Tabaqat al-Asfiya
There is a book I recently purchased called "The Beauty of the Righteous and Ranks of the Elite" which is an english translation by 'Shaykh Muhammad al-Akili' of the book "Hilyat-ul Awliya Wa Tabaqat al-Asfiya" by 'Imam Abu Na'im al-Asfahani,' a 10th century scholar. While thumbing through the book, there appeared to be many beautiful ahadith and much information on different sahabah. However, after reading some ahadith quoted near the beginning, I'm not sure how much I can trust the reports given in the book, though there are several mentioned that are well-known and authentic. These ahadith are as follows:
"Wahab Ibn Munbih reported that the disciples asked Jeses, son of Mary, upon both of whom be peace: "It is said that God's deputies.... can you tell us about them?" Jesus replied, "They are those who..... what comes to them as lawful, they renounce (even that), and the success that may cross their path they turn down. When their dwellings fall apart, they do not rebuild them....." ----- Whoever Wahab Ibn Munbih was, whether a tabi'een or a tabatabi'een or whatever, he did not live in the time of Jesus and has no standing to quote him even if it's felt that it's a 'good story.' If that's the case, then Paul also had the right to quote Jesus when he said he saw him in visions and such. Furthermore, the things about renouncing even what is lawful because it is part of this dunyah and leaving your dwellings in ruin sound like sufi extremism to me, so I'm very wary about this sort of thing.
"Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal reported that Aisha narrated that God's Mesenger, salallahu alayhe wa sallem, said, 'Do you know who wins sanctuary under God's Throne on the Day of Judgement?..... The spirit of elation comes from their contentment, satisfaction, and constant yearning for their beloved, and their fear of losing their struggle, or even the mere thought of separation from Him, bewilders and distresses them.'" ----- Now here, though he says it was narrated by Ahmed Ib Hanbal via Aisha, it seems strange that the prophet, salallahu alayhe wa sallem, is here said to have referred to Allah as 'constantly yearning for the Beloved." To me, this does not seem to be the kind of language the prophet, salallahu alayhe wa sallem, used, or referred to Allah by, and seems to be the words of sufis, who tiringly use phrases like "Yearning for the Beloved" that they have put into the mouth of the prophet, salallahu alayhe wa sallem. Is this a hadith that Abu Na'im added to, changed, or the translator added to or changed, or something along those lines, or am I being paranoid?
" Imam Ahmed Ib Hanbal narrated that Abdur-Rahman Ibn 'Awf, said, Abu Bakr said, "..... Surely a day will come when people will adorn themselves with silk and fineries, and they will condemn woolen garments....." ----- What bothers me here, is the reference specifically to woolen garments, especially when the author previously went off on a tangeant about the benefits of wearing woolen garments, and how he said outward devotion is Islam while inward devotion is Sufism. Many of the ahadith in this Abu Bakr section, I've heard before and know them to be true, but was this bit about the woolen garments somehow doctored here to support the whole sufi spin on it?
So, basically, does anyone have information about the book, its author, or its translator that could solve my dilemma here? Because besides what I've mentioned, it seems to be a beautiful book using ahadith from the prophet, salallahu alayhe wa sallem, and sahabah about asceticism, charity, and even jihad, so any information on this matter would be appreciated.
- 17th July 2008 #2Wakee' ibn Jarrah once said, 'The intelligent one is he who understands the ways of Allah, not him who has understood the ways of this world.'
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- 17th July 2008 #3
- 17th July 2008 #4
I read it somewhere he wrote this book for the praise sufis or it has sufi leanings.
Allah know best.
- 17th July 2008 #5
Where can I buy the english translation?
- 18th July 2008 #6
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As for the book, well the title itself indicates it was written in support & praise for the sufi's.
- 18th July 2008 #7
Edit: And by the way, Abdul Muntaqim, I'm pretty sure you can just type in the title over at google and get it online somewhere. I bought it from some Deobandi alley shop here in Kenya, so I'm not sure I could direct you to the same place :-).
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- 6th August 2008 #8
There are some or actually many weak and fabricated stories in "Hiliyah".
My version of "Sifatu saffa" printed in Turkey, and there is no chains of narrations in it.
- 6th August 2008 #9
Ibn Taymiyah (r) said:
"Author of "Hiliyah" recorded a lot of fabricated stories about 4 caliphs".
Source: Dhahabi "Muntaka" 3.1.12, Turkish edition.
- 6th August 2008 #10
bro efendi, is it easy to get the classical arabic books in turkey? how are the prices?
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