Important Adolf Hitler on Islam and the Muslims

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  1. Salamu Alaikum i found this interesting article somewhere on a european forum like to share it!

    "The only religion I respect is Islam. The only prophet I admire is the Prophet Muhammad." (Hitler, quoted by Ahmed Huber; Kevin Coogan, "The mysterious Achmed Huber: Friend to Hitler

    Adolf Hitler on Islam and the Muslims

    abridged from an essay by Sean “Suhaib” Jobst
    24 April 2006



    Islam remains the most misunderstood religion in the world. Even though a quarter of the world's population adheres to its doctrines, there is little honest debate on Islam since a pack of lies dominates all attention. So we Muslims are told that our religion is evil, blood-thirsty, and backward.

    But many non-Muslims have rejected the propaganda of the Zionists, Orientalists, and Christian missionaries. Several of the greatest minds in European history have praised Islam, including Samuel Johnson, Johann Goethe, Comte de Gobineau, George Bernard Shaw, and Julius Evola. Another was that great statesman Adolf Hitler, who contrasted the spread of Islam with the results of Christianity:

    "In those continents which were inhabited, failure has been even more marked. In them, the white races have imposed their will by force, and the influence they have had on the native inhabitants has been negligible; the Hindus have remained Hindus, the Chinese have remained Chinese, and the Moslems are still Moslems. There have been no profound transformations, and such changes as have occurred are less marked in the religious field, notwithstanding the tremendous efforts of the Christian missionaries, than in any other. There have been a few odd conversions the sincerity of which are open to considerable doubt - except, perhaps in the case of a few simpletons and mentally deficients. The white races did, of course, give some things to the natives, and they were the worst gifts that they could possibly have made, those plagues of our own modern world - materialism, fanaticism, alcoholism and syphilis. For the rest, since these peoples possessed qualities of their own which were superior to anything we could offer them, they have remained essentially unchanged. Where imposition by force was attempted, the results were even more disastrous, and common sense, realizing the futility of such measures, should preclude any recourse to their introduction. One solitary success must be conceded to the colonizers: everywhere they have succeeded in arousing hatred, a hatred that urges these peoples, awakened from their slumbers by us, to rise and drive us out. Indeed, it looks almost as though they had awakened solely and simply for that purpose! Can anyone assert that colonization has increased the number of Christians in the world? Where are those conversions en masse which mark the success of Islam? Here and there one finds isolated islets of Christians, Christians in name, that is, rather than by conviction; and that is the sum total of the successes of this magnificent Christian religion, the guardian of supreme Truth!"[1]

    This was a reiteration of his earlier statement in Mein Kampf. He was very impressed by Islam as he saw its great advances in Europe. By contrast, he saw the Christian church in disunity, losing "millions and millions of inward adherents" and ineffective in its overseas mission efforts[2]:

    "An examination of the religious situation before the War shows that the general process of disruption had extended to this sphere also. A great part of the nation itself had for a long time already ceased to have any convictions of a uniform and practical character in their ideological outlook on life. In this matter the point of primary importance was by no means the number of people who renounced their church membership but rather the widespread indifference. While the two Christian denominations maintained missions in Asia and Africa, for the purpose of securing new adherents at home in Europe. These former adherents either gave up religion wholly as a directive force in their lives or they adopted their own interpretation of it. The consequences of this were specially felt in the moral life of the country. In parentheses it may be remarked that the progress made by the missions in spreading the Christian Faith abroad was only quite modest in comparison with the spread of Mohammedanism."[3]

    This is an interesting observation and puts into perspective his later statement in his Political Testament. He contrasted Christianity with Islam, obviously favorable to the latter. The overwhelming attraction the holy city of Makkah had for Muslims, he sought to emulate for his own National Socialist movement:

    "Only the existence of such a seat or centre, around which a magic charm such as that of Mecca or Rome is woven, can supply a movement with that permanent driving force which has its sources in the internal unity of the movement and the recognition of one head as representing this unity."[4]

    What would Hitler say today?

    Unlike Islam, the Christian churches came to lose any uniform or practical worldview. While the former retained an amazing devotion from its adherents, this certainly was not the case with Christianity. He would no doubt deplore the decadence and moral decay in modern Europe, a trend he sought to reverse with his National Socialist movement. If he were alive today, Hitler would look upon favorably at the piety of the Muslim immigrants in Europe compared to the indigenous Christians.

    Islam is the fastest-growing religion, not least because of its remarkable conversion rates. Given his true nationalist and progressive principles, the Führer would look upon the Muslims' larger birthrate and conversions as demonstrating the vitality of Islam.

    He would look upon the mass immigration of Muslims into Europe as the fault of the European peoples themselves. Since they have lost any real noble cause to defend, once they abandoned the Aryan values of their ancestors and replaced this with a thoroughly decadent lifestyle.

    He would view the situation in light of the European peoples' ignoring the biological laws, by preferring their comfortable materialist, hedonist, lifestyle to breeding and increasing their numbers. Finally, he would be brought to tears by the failure of its people to appreciate his efforts in throwing off the yoke of Jewry.

    Hitler, who devoted so much and sacrificed greatly for the cause of his race and folk, would be disappointed at the failure of the vast majority of his kindred to live up to the Aryan Ideal he espoused. He would point out how values such as honor survives elsewhere, not among the modern Europeans. His attitude would be bitterness mixed with pity, for the situation of the world and the West in particular since 1945.

    The Aryan vs. Jewish spirit

    Adolf Hitler was of Catholic origin. But his attitude towards religion was complex. He firmly believed in the existence of God but rejected the distorted picture of Jesus (alayhi as-salam) as propagated by the Christian churches. Hitler frequently evoked Jesus' revolutionary struggle against injustice, especially that of the Jewish leadership. He repeatedly stressed how the true message of Jesus had become loss in the teachings of the churches. One fundamental difference was the striving for a Hereafter, and a deep concern for moral problems and social justice:

    "In the Aryan mind no religion can ever be imagined unless it embodies the conviction that life in some form or other will continue after death. As a matter of fact, the Talmud is not a book that lays down principles according to which the individual should prepare for the life to come. It only furnishes rules for a practical and convenient life in this world.

    "But the Jewish religious teaching is not concerned with moral problems. It is rather concerned with economic problems, and very petty ones at that. In regard to the moral value of the religious teaching of the Jews there exist and always have existed quite exhaustive studies....which show up the kind of religion that the Jews have in a light that makes it look very uncanny to the Aryan mind. The Jew himself is the best example of the kind of product which this religious training evolves. His life is of this world only and his mentality is as foreign to the true spirit of Christianity as his character was foreign to the great founder of this new creed two thousand years ago."[5]

    Because he sought to hold firm to the true teachings of Jesus (alayhi as-salam), he recognized that Islam contained those elements which the Judaized churches compromised. These include an honorable warrior spirit, actual yearning for the Hereafter, and a firm commitment to social justice.

    Islam, a religion compatible for the Germanic peoples

    Little wonder then that in his private conversations, Hitler spoke against Christianity and Judaism, expressing "a violent feeling of anger at the idea that some Germans were able to be taken in by theological doctrines devoid of any depth." He then contrasted these doctrines with "those of Confucius, of Buddha and of Mohammad," each of which provided spiritual "sustenance."[6]

    His conversations on a number of subjects were recorded by his closest confidants. One of these was Albert Speer, chief architect and Reich Minister of Armanents and Munitions, who quoted Hitler's regret the Germans accepted Christianity rather than religions which would have been more compatible to them:

    "Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking: 'You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?'"[7]

    There was another aspect which several other National Socialist leaders discussed. This was the utterly violent manner in which Christianity subjugated the Aryan peoples to its creed. A rather dogmatic subject, although the descendants of these people like to forget and pretend Islam spread "by the sword"[8]!

    Yet another aspect which Hitler praised was the fact that Muslims preserved ancient texts and passed on knowledge which otherwise would have been lost. He noted the remarkable achievements of Islamic civilization in all fields. During a meeting at the Wehrwolf on the afternoon of 27th August 1942, the Führer said[9]:

    "It is only with the Roman empire where one can say that culture was a factor under the government. The government of the Arabs in Spain too was infinitely distinguished: many scientists, thinkers, astronomers, mathematicians, one of the most humane times, at the same time as a colossal knighthood. When, later, Christianity came there, then one can say: barbarians. The knighthood that the Castilians have is actually one of Arab heritage. If Charles Martel had not overcome in Poitiers: since the Jewish world already seized us - that Christianity is something well of insipid - we would have better received Mohammedanism, those doctrines of the reward of heroism - combatants alone have the seventh heaven! With that the Germans would have conquered the world. It is only by Christianity that we have been held distant."[10]

    Continuing on from the last part of this statement, the Führer made an interesting analysis of religion which alluded to Islamic practices, such as Ramadan, Wudhu (ritual ablutions), and Adhan. He also admired the Islamic conception of the Paradise, particularly its promises of sensual rewards:

    "The instructions of a hygienic nature that most religions gave, contributed to the foundation of organised communities. The precepts ordering peoples to wash, to avoid certain drinks, to fast at appointed dates, to take exercise, to rise with the sun, to climb to the top of the minaret - all these were obligations invented by intelligent people. The exhortation to fight courageously is also self-explanatory. Observe, by the way, that, as a corollary, the Moslem was promised a paradise peopled with sensual girls, where wine flowed in streams - a real Earthly paradise. The Christians, on the other hand, declare themselves satisfied if after their death they are allowed to sing Hallelujahs! All these elements contributed to form human communities. It is to these private customs that Folks owe their present characters."[11]

    His support for the Islamic cause

    Hitler was on the friendliest of terms with several distinguished Muslims, like Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Al-Quds, and the exiled Iraqi prime minister Rashid Ali al-Gailani[12]. He was greatly admired throughout the Islamic world and received numerous telegrams of support from all sectors of society. Even before he became Führer, great Muslims like Shaykh Hasan al-Banna (rahimahullah) sent him letters of support.

    He pursued a bold policy of supporting Muslim liberation movements, after the hostile British intentions became apparent. These include the Arab revolt in Palestine (1936-39) and the Iraqi independence rebellion (1941). He opened up or improved diplomatic and other relations with Islamic countries already independent, like Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan.

    The world is now witness to the utter hypocrisy and imperial hubris of the US government. Whether Iran's will to exercise its military right to self-defense or the Zionist activities in Palestine, it is only too obvious to the honest observer. In his Reichstag speech of 28th April 1939, the Führer gave a hard-hitting indictment of Franklin Delano Roosevelt's hypocrisy on the issues of Palestine and other subjugated nations:

    "As for the fact, however, that one nation in Africa is alleged have lost its freedom – that too is but an error; for it is not a question of one nation in Africa having lost its freedom – on the contrary practically all the previous inhabitants of this continent have been made subject to the sovereignty of other nations by bloody force, thereby losing their freedom. Moroccans, Berbers, Arabs, Negroes, have all fallen victim to a foreign might, the swords of which, however, were not inscribed 'Made in Germany', but 'Made by the Democracies'.[13]

    "The fact has obviously escaped Mr. Roosevelt's notice that Palestine is at present occupied not by German troops but by the English; and that the country is having its liberty restricted by the most brutal resort to force, is being robbed of its independence and is suffering the cruellest maltreatment for the benefit of Jewish interlopers.

    "The Arabs living in that country will therefore certainly not have complained to Mr. Roosevelt of German aggression, but they do voice a continuous appeal to the world, deploring the barbarous methods with which England is attempting to suppress a people which loves its freedom and is but defending it."[14]

    What a visionary! He anticipated the great colonial uprisings which would lead to the independence of dozens of countries. Due to his concern over their ambitions in Palestine, we can consider him one of the first anti-Zionist activists in Europe!

    Little wonder, then, that he is seen in a very different light in Arab and Islamic countries. Little wonder that his armies were greeted as liberators in Muslim areas, such as Egypt or the Caucasus. Neither would it be any surprise to know thousands of Muslims - Arabs, Albanians, Bosnians, Chechens, Tatars, etc. - rallied to his cause by donning the uniforms of the Wehrmacht or Waffen-SS.

    Contrary to all the lies which have been told about him, Hitler opposed imperialism. Certainly once the war began, he began actively doing so. He was far from being a racial supremacist, since he recognized all races had their own unique qualities. Neither did he seek a colonial empire - he merely wanted those areas which belonged to Germany historically.

    Conclusion

    Towards his last days, the Führer had time to contemplate a number of things. Increasingly, he spoke of his past mistakes and what would await the future. It was here where he expressed a number of sentiments we Muslims can truly appreciate. I conclude with some of these remarks[15]:

    "At the same time they would have had to renounce their pretentions in North Africa and the Near East; and that would have allowed Europe to pursue a bold policy of friendship towards Islam." - 4th February 1945

    "The laws of nature follow a logic which does not necessarily always conform to our own ideas of logic. We ourselves were disposed to compromise. We were ready to throw our forces into the scales for the preservation of the British Empire; and all that, mark you, at a time when, to tell the truth, I feel much more sympathetically inclined to the lowliest Hindu than to any of these arrogant islanders. Later on, the Germans will be pleased that they did not make any contribution to the survival of an out-dated state of affairs for which the world of the future would have found it hard to forgive them." - 4th February 1945

    "What we want is a Monroe doctrine in Europe. 'Europe for the Europeans!' a doctrine, the corollary of which should be that Europeans refrain from meddling in the affairs of other continents." - 7th February 1945

    "Never, at any price, should we have put our money on France and against the peoples subjected to her yoke. On the contrary, we should have helped them to achieve their liberty and, if necessary, should have goaded them into doing so. There was nothing to stop us in 1940 from making a gesture of this sort in the Near East and in North Africa.... Our 'gentlemen' obviously preferred to maintain cordial relations with distinguished Frenchmen, rather than with a lot of hirsute revolutionaries, with a chorus of musical comedy officers, whose one idea was to cheat us, rather than with the Arabs, who would have been loyal partners for us." - 14th February 1945

    "Our Italian ally has been a source of embarrassment to us everywhere. It was this alliance, for instance, which prevented us from pursuing a revolutionary policy in North Africa. In the nature of things, this territory was becoming an Italian preserve and it was as such that the Duce laid claim to it. Had we been on our own, we could have emancipated the Moslem countries dominated by France; and that would have had enormous repercussions in the Near East, dominated by Britain, and in Egypt. But with our fortunes linked to those of the Italians, the pursuit of such a policy was not possible. All Islam vibrated at the news of our victories. The Egyptians, the Iraqis and the whole of the Near East were all ready to rise in revolt. Just think that we could have done to help them, even to incite them, as would have been both our duty and in our own interest! But the presence of the Italians at our side paralysed us; it created a feeling of malaise among our Islamic friends, who inevitably saw in us accomplices, willing or unwilling, of their oppressors. For the Italians in these parts of the world are more bitterly hated, of course, than either the British or the French. The memories of the barbarous reprisals taken against the Senussi are still vivid. Then again the ridiculous pretensions of the Duce to be regarded as The Sword of Islam evokes the same sneering chuckle now as it did before the war. This title, which is fitting for Mahomed and a great conqueror like Omar, Mussolini caused to be conferred on himself by a few wretched brutes whom he had either bribed or terrorized into doing so. We had a great chance of pursuing a splendid policy with regard to Islam. But we missed the bus, as we missed it on several other occasions, thanks to our loyalty to the Italian alliance!

    "In this theatre of operations, then, the Italians prevented us from playing our best card, the emancipation of the French subjects and the raising of the standard of revolt in the countries oppressed by the British. Such a policy would have aroused the enthusiasm of the whole of Islam. It is a characteristic of the Moslem world, from the shores of the Atlantic to those of the Pacific, that what affects one, for good or for evil, affects all....

    "Further, this futile policy has allowed these hypocrites, the British, to pose, if you please, as liberators in Syria, in Cyrenaica and in Tripolitania!" - 17th February 1945

    "While, therefore, it is not possible to adhere to rigid principles in dealing with foreign countries and one must always be prepared to adapt one's policy to the changing conditions, it can nevertheless be asserted with confidence that Germany will always recruit her staunchest friends from among those peoples who are actively resistant to Jewish contagion. I am sure that the Japanese, the Chinese and the peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France, in spite of the fact that we are related by blood." - 2nd April 1945

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    NOTES:

    1. The Political Testament of Adolf Hitler, 7th February 1945.

    2. "Did Hitler Use Jesus To Justify His Actions?," http://muhammadanism.org/Inquiries/Jesus/hitler_jesus.htm

    3. Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf. Translated by James Murphy. London: Hurst and Blackett Ltd., 1939, p. 152.

    4. ibid., p. 197.

    5. ibid., pp. 173-174.

    6. Jean and Michel Angebert, The Occult and the Third Reich. New York: Macmillan, 1974, p. 246.

    7. Albert Speer, Inside the Third Reich. New York: Macmillan, 1970, p. 96.

    8. Rather, Islam spread due to its superior creed and sincere arguments. Jihad by the sword was always directed against the tyrants and oppressors, aimed at stopping injustice and removing all obstacles to the da'wah.

    9. "Hitler and the Muslims," http://radioislam.org/hitler/islam.htm

    10. Adolf Hitler's Monologe im Führerhauptquartier (Monologue with Headquarters of the Führer). Hamburg: Albrecht Knaus, 1980.

    11. Hitler's Table Talk, 14th October 1941, midday.

    12. Both Husseini and Gailani were of noble lineage: The direct descendants of the Prophet's grandson Hussein ibn Ali, and the medieval Islamic scholar Abdul-Qadir al-Jilani, respectively.

    13. David Brockschmidt, "History Lessons from the Memory Hole - Let them eat their own words," http://adelaideinstitute.org/newsletters/n248.htm

    14. Michael Walsh, "History Repeats Itself: Wise Words From Europe's Most Popular Statesman," http://ety.com/HRP/walshcomments/historyrepeat.htm

    15. The Political Testament of Adolf Hitler, February - April 1945.
     
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  2. Abdullah ibn Adam

    Abdullah ibn Adam New Member

    I wonder if our visitor "Vargkampf" would now consider re-thinking his opinion that Islam is still an "alien religion" to Europe?
     
  3. who is Varg is he a neo nazi?
     
  4. Abdullah ibn Adam

    Abdullah ibn Adam New Member

  5. Abdullah ibn Adam

    Abdullah ibn Adam New Member

    Apparently; he did post a few days ago on that thread and it seems like the discussion is not over yet so maybe we'll see him again soon.
     
  6. junaid123

    junaid123 New Member

    there are a lot of people who doubt that the well known book MEIN KAMPF of hitler is not written by himself. a lot of statement goes against his normal comment and behaviour. and some comments are also tempered by the british goverment after the 2nd world war.
     
  7. Daniel

    Daniel TAFKA BM

    I wish Vargkampf would come back more often. He is someone who it is possible to have dialogue and discussion with. I suspect that the fact that he has come to this forum shows that he has some deeper interest in Islam and I pray that Allah allows the light of guidance to enter his heart.
     
  8. Suhaib Jobst

    Suhaib Jobst 'Amal Ahl al-Madina

    As Salaam Alaykum,

    The author of the essay was none other than yours truly. I originally wrote it as a da'wa outreach to a group of neo-Nazis. I used to have a dialogue with such a group, which I attempted to reach by putting forward a conception of race which was more "spiritual" than materialist and by demonstrating that Islam was the natural culmination of all our efforts as Europeans or people of European descent.

    My own attitude towards Adolf Hitler is somewhat ambiguous. It was his stupid mistakes which ultimately led to the destruction of Germany, including his naive racist attitudes which squandered the initial good-will of the oppressed peoples of the Soviet Union, who were willing to collaborate with Deutschland but certainly not replace one master for another.

    I view the National Socialist movement as part of a broader trend towards a post-modern, national-volkish, anti-capitalist, anti-materialist world-view whose natural culmination can only come through Islam. Goethe, Nietzsche, Spengler, Jünger, Möller van den Bruck, Feder, Schmitt - all of these great thinkers arrived at positions which brought the German nation closer to Islam.

    Nonetheless, I found out that it was never that simple to simply call Hitler a racist who believed in the superiority of the "Aryan" race. History is written by the victors, which in this case include the Anglo-American elites and a powerful sector of world Jewry. The war brought Hitler closer to a more realistic view where German interests were clearly not confined to "race", as witnessed in the alliance with the Grand Mufti of Al-Quds, for example.

    But more important was what Hitler represented on a transcendental level. He betrayed the Strasserites and Conservative Revolution which essentially made him what he was, and his stupid mistakes ultimately led to the downfall of Germany. However, the man fought against the dominant capitalist order with its usury and interest-slavery.

    There is another aspect of the man often overlooked. Hitler couldn't reconcile his German mind of logic and inquiry with the absurd teachings of Christianity, especially in its dominant Trinitarian forms. At the same time, it was exactly for these very reasons that he admired Islam and the Muslims.

    This is what I wanted to demonstrate in my article, the perfect challenge to the rising pro-Zionist, mindless race-baiting trends of the "white nationalist" or similar movements. It was also a warning to the Muslims not to believe whatever those powers which happen to be the ones who colonized the Muslims, have said against a power which did not. Who benefits?

    Wa Allahu A'lam.
     
  9. Die for Allah

    Die for Allah TIOCFAIDH AR LA

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    Is that you in your avatar Suhaib?
     
  10. very interesting akhi , JazakAllah khair for the article i personally think it would open the mind of a lot of neo nazis ,
     
  11. Idriss

    Idriss New Member

    Sure good propaganda video can’t verify it though’ I did speak with Muslims in Croatia who fought with the Germans against the chek niks but also goring was sent to the Arabs to make a report on their progress’ he said “it will be 50 years before they are capable of following anything other than following like a donkey” so he didn’t favour Muslims he found them a convenient allies
     
  12. Goring was a unqualified General himself , the errors he made @ the belgium coast , after all Hitler wanted goring to be executed for his blunders.

    the article written by akhi suhaib was more about Hitlers views
     
  13. Suhaib Jobst

    Suhaib Jobst 'Amal Ahl al-Madina

    As Salaam Alaykum,

    Na'am. I saw other brothers with pictures of themselves or others in their avatars, so I figured why not?

    Wa iyyak. The primary stumbling block is their racial attitudes. In my dialogue with them, I attempted to promote the "spiritual" conception of race as formulated by Evola, Spengler and Yockey. But I found that it was no use, as the vast majority of neo-Nazis/white nationalists remain conditioned to their materialist view of race, which they separate into "superior" and "inferior".

    I never heard about G&ouml;ring being sent to visit Arabs and making a report. Many other officials indeed toured Arab countries but these were mostly diplomatic officials and SS officers. Germany made contact with the Egyptian Free Officers and supported the Iraqi rebellion against British imperialism.

    Any questions on the original article or more on this matter, would be most welcomed by me. But once again, I found that the issue of race is a serious stumbling block to any effort to reach neo-Nazis. Wa Allahu A'lam.
     
  14. akhi you wrote something about Shaykh hassan al banna , what was his view on hitler and the nazis , and was there a connection between the ikhwan and the nazis?
     
  15. Idriss

    Idriss New Member

    salaamalaykum re hitlers reflections?

    Having spoke with a brother of mine from Egypt he also heard this statement about Hitler’s reflection on Arab thinking but it’s not an issue to usurp the brothers article it’s to point out that Hitler was an out an out racist and racial purity was his standard! Because people want to equate Islam with fascist and Muslims with the same brush as fascism’ my point to this discussion was to bring the reason why Muslims fought alongside the Germans was because of the ultranationalist of Serbian chek niks whose hatred of Islam made life for the Balkan Muslims very problematic . The Balkans has had to cope with ethnic cleansing long before communist Tito so maybe this is the case of the enemies of mine enemy is my friend ‘as my father and grandfather fought the Germans for the idea of emancipation of Europe’ and I found it interesting speaking to old Muslim elders who fought alongside Germans because they found them good allies against their enemies ‘ that was my point also being as one brother pointed out’ it is hard to disseminate or understand what ideas Hitler really shared in mine kempt as it is a tool to use on all occasions to enforce propaganda that we can’t neither verify.Allahu alum
    http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/ourmessage.html
     
  16. Idriss

    Idriss New Member

    The link is to show how the Jews view this alliance
     
  17. Suhaib Jobst

    Suhaib Jobst 'Amal Ahl al-Madina

    As Salaam Alaykum,

    Before answering the question, I would like to first mention my opinion of the Ikhwan al-Muslimin. Shaykh Hasan al-Banna (rahimahullah) was a traditional Muslim scholar, whose fiqh was Shafi'i and tariqa was the Shadhili-Hasafi. However, it is unfortunate he was influenced to some extent by the reformist teachings of Muhammad Abduh and Rashid Rida.

    The shaykh was eager to regain the lost power and glory of the Muslims, especially against the ideological onslaught of the imperialists and Zionists. For these good intentions his mistakes can be excused. He is innocent of the modernist reformers who represent the public face of the current Ikhwan, which has strayed further from its origins. Nonetheless, there was also an element of reformism which obscured the Ikhwan's intentions and held them back from realizing their objectives.

    As for the question, then history is essential to consider. In Egypt, the defining issue was to free it from the domination of Britain. With Germany waging a fierce struggle against Britain and expanding across North Africa, it was only natural that resistance elements in Egypt would make contact with the Afrika Korps of Field Marshal Erwin Rommel.

    These elements included the Free Officers of Gamal Abd al-Nasser, Fath al-Misr of Ahmed Hussein, and the Ikhwan al-Muslimin of Shaykh Hasan al-Banna. Elements of these three groups, which were often intertwined, each made contact with the Germans due to common enemies and common interests. The only factor that halted further cooperation was the British victory at El-Alamein, which pushed Axis forces back to the west.

    "When they [Ikhwan] did express admiration of certain aspects of National Socialism or Fascism, it was usually in the context of demonstrating that the Europeans had implemented some of 'the principles of Islam,' such as a modest dress code, encouragement of early marriage, a strong patriotism and a military jihad spirit" (Brynjar Lia, The Society of the Muslim Brothers in Egypt, Reading, UK: Ithaca Press, 1988, pp. 80, 180).

    However, even after the defeat there were continued links in terms of espionage against the British and the propaganda effort against imperialism and Zionism. The course of the war brought it home to German strategists that the resistance movement of the Arabs was in full accord with German interests, due to its opposition to Anglo-French imperialism and the growing threat of Zionism. One of the Ikhwan publications observed:

    "If the German Reich imposes itself as a protector of everyone who has German blood running in his veins, Muslim faith makes it the clear duty of every strong Muslim whose soul is drenched in the doctrines of the Qur'an to consider himself the protector of every other Muslim whose soul has also been drenched....in Islam" (Manfred B. Halpern, The Politics of Social Change in the Middle East and North Africa, Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 1963, p. 147).

    These links were even more pronounced through the Grand Mufti of Al-Quds, Mohammad Amin al-Husseini, who was also the founder and leader of the Palestinian-branch of the Ikhwan al-Muslimin. A leading member of the Syrian branch, Dr. Ma'aruf al-Dawalibi, not only cooperated with them as a student in Paris but also fought as a Wehrmacht volunteer in the 'Frei Arabien' division on the Eastern (Soviet) Front.

    While Germany initially proceeded cautiously in the Middle East, wishing not to antagonize Britain, the Palestinian Arab revolt of 1936-1939 definitely reversed German foreign policy into one favorable to the Arabs. Indeed it was praised in the most glowing terms by several German officials. The philosopher Alfred Rosenberg wrote:

    "The longer the fire continues to burn in Palestine, the stronger becomes the resistance to the Jewish regime of violence in all the Arab states and beyond that in the other Muslim countries too" (Rosenberg, Tradition und Gegenwart, Reden und Aufs&auml;tze 1936-1940, Blut und Ehre, IV. Band, München: Zentralverlag der NSDAP, 1943, p. 208).

    In 1936 and 1939, the journalist and SS officer Giselher Wirsing toured Egypt and Palestine on an official fact-finding mission. He greeted the rising power of the Egyptian Ikhwan and the Palestinian resistance. He noted with satisfaction "a marked return to the religious traditions of Islam" and "a fierce hostility to Western liberalism....Recent developments in Egypt....show how strongly this theocracy is able to revive itself after the first onrush of liberalism" (Wirsing, Engl&auml;nder, Juden, Araber in Pal&auml;stina, 5th revised edition, Leipzig: Eugen Diederichs Verlag, 1942, p. 136).
     
  18. Suhaib Jobst

    Suhaib Jobst 'Amal Ahl al-Madina

    As Salaam Alaykum,

    His attitude towards race was ambiguous. On the one hand, theoretically he believed in the "superiority" of what he termed the "Nordic Aryan" race. But at the same time, whenever it suited him he conveniently set these racial theories aside.

    Witness for example the alliance with the Japanese, the vast number of foreign volunteers in the Waffen-SS and Wehrmacht, and his alliance with the Palestinian Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Iraqi Rashid Ali al-Gailani and the Indian Subhas Chandra Bose. These were all factors which benefited German interests and as the war progressed, these racial theories became more and more relegated to the background as reality set in.

    "Some of the German Arabists, like others elsewhere, became deeply committed to Arab causes. Some even attempted to persuade the National Socialist Party to amend the racial clause in its rules and limit it to Jews. There were even suggestions from German ambassadors and consuls in the Arab lands to amend the anti-Semitic passages in Mein Kampf so that they would merely be anti-Jewish. These proposals to tamper with the sacred texts were naturally rejected, but there were some signs in Nazi circles of a willingness to accord honorary Aryan status to at least some Arabs" (Bernard Lewis, Semites and Anti-Semites: An Inquiry Into Conflict and Prejudice, New York: W.W. Norton & Co., 1986, p. 146).

    There was a strong element in Germany which facilitated this transition. The broad trend known as the Conservative Revolution and Strasserism, since the First World War identified Germany with the "young nations" of Russia and the colonized peoples against the "old nations" of the imperialist West. Professor Karl Haushofer and the Strasser brothers called enthusiastically for Germany to make common cause with the resistance movements of the "third world" against imperialism. Although these elements were suppressed by the Nazis, some of their ideas survived and were adopted especially among the Schutzstaffel (SS) leaders and Foreign Office (Ausw&auml;rtiges Amt) officials.

    Germany has had its own history with the Serbs, so it would only be natural that common cause be made with the Croats, Bosnians and Albanians against Serbian ultra-nationalists. Even today Germany is known as the most sympathetic European nation towards the former Yugoslav nations against Serbian nationalism. You are exactly right in your statements about why thousands of Bosnians fought alongside Germany.

    "Politics, for Hitler, was purely pragmatic. He did not except his own book of confessions and professions, Mein Kampf, from this general rule. Large parts of it were no longer valid, he said. He should not have left himself be pinned down to definite statements so early. After hearing that remark I gave up my fruitless efforts to read the book" (Albert Speer, Inside the Third Reich, New York: Macmillan, 1970, p. 122).

    The course of the war caused him to amend many of his previous beliefs, although Mein Kampf remained in its original form as a historic document reflective of its time and place. His Political Testament, some excerpts of which were quoted in the article, reflected many of these new positions. I conclude with a very interesting account by Ahmed Huber, a Swiss convert to Islam who was formerly a Socialist and then a nationalist, who was interviewed by the author George Michael in April 2003:

    "The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el-Husseini, whom I met in 1965 in Beirut, we had a long talk. He told me many, many interesting things, because he had an almost friendship relationship with Adolf Hitler. He told me a fantastic story. On one night in December 1941, after the big victories of Germany over the Soviet Union, he had a long talk with Hitler about architecture, culture, the music of Richard Wagner, and so on.

    "Hitler started talking about race theory and anti-Semitism and the Grand Mufti asked Hitler, 'Did you ever think, Mr. Chancellor, that your race theory comes out of Judaism? It comes out of the Old Testament.' And Hitler was very astounded by that.

    "The Grand Mufti knew the Bible very well. He said [concerning the teachings of Judaism], 'All of your ideas, the doctrine of the Nazi Party are in the Old Testament. The chosen people of God are not the chosen people, but the chosen race and that blood carries the soul. And this chosen race must keep its blood pure. It must not mix its blood with non-Jews, the foreigners, the subhuman beasts called the goyim, are inferior to the Jewish master race. The genocide order of God in the fifth book of Moses and in the book of Joshua. The race laws of Ezra and Ishmael. All of these things are in the Old Testament.'

    "Hitler was absolutely astonished, and the Mufti told him [further], 'You have not high esteem for the Africans, for Black people. And also this comes from the Old Testament in the first book of Moses, the Black race is doomed, considered by God to eternal slavery. It's the famous curse by God on Ham, one of the three sons of the prophet Noah.'

    "So when the Mufti told Hitler another story, he said, 'You, Mr. Chancellor, hate the Roman Catholic Church,' [to which] Hitler responded, 'Really?' [The Mufti replied], 'Yes it's true, but you, Mr. Hitler, you never left the church. You are still formally a member of the Roman Catholic Church.' Then the Mufti added, 'Mr. Chancellor, you have organized your party like the Roman Catholic Church. You are the pope. Your Gauleiters and Reichsleiters are the cardinals and the archbishops. And your party congresses....are [like] high masses - religious ceremonies - which you celebrate as the high priest.'

    "Hitler became furious and walked out. And for three weeks the Mufti could not come back in. After three weeks the Mufti had to go to the Reichschancellary in Berlin, and he told me, 'There I thought he [Hitler] would arrest me and shout at me.' Hitler came and smiled at the Mufti, put his hands around his arms, and said, 'Your eminence, I want to apologize to you. I behaved like an uneducated little boy.'

    "He [Hitler] said, 'I have read the Bible and thought about what you said and now that final victory is close, Moscow will fall in a few weeks, and the Soviet Union will be gone, and then final victory will come. We must talk about all these things and try to make some changes in our ideology.'

    "And, of course, final victory never came, but Hitler dedicated a text to Christoph Schroeder and Frau Junge, his secretary, which is called the Hitler-Bormann Documents, or the Testament of Adolf Hitler. In this text, Hitler makes a criticism of his [earlier] policies."

    So I believe that he was making positive steps in the right direction, which if carried to its fullest conclusion could have had far different results. But the damage was already done for Germany, as the most profane elements of the Party dominated its policies and didn't realize their errors until it was already too late. Wa Allahu A'lam.

    See also:
    http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showpost.php?p=59318&postcount=9

    - Suhaib Jobst, al-Maliki, al-Shadhili
    proud Muslim revert, freelance journalist and researcher of German-Spanish-Flemish heritage
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2008
  19. Idriss

    Idriss New Member

    re who do you think you are kidding mister hitler

    Suhaib Jobst Salaamalaykum jazak Allah kyr thank you for your post it is full of information’ as for my comment it came about in a conversation while we were talking on European achievements and why the Muslim world was embroiled in useless meetings that never bring about change’ he mentioned in the course of the conversation a comment he heard from his father in Egypt that a German general visited the Arabs on reporting to Hitler he had nothing to fear from them considering the Arabs a very back ward people. I mentioned goring but it quite possibly could have been Rommel?
    Having read as you have’ do you feel the Muslims found any allies in working with the Germans? Or was it a chance for the Muslim to attain power in the Balkans? Or the Germans using the Muslims to fight the chik niks?
    Also the link I sent was full of history of the Germans in the Balkans does it match your interpretation of events
     

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